Yesterday a bunch of kids were killed by a dirt ball. He blew himself up too. Hmmm one guy dead but he killed 22, hurt many more.
Imo we oughta have "repercussions" for such behavior.
One good way is payback 10-1. No one up, 10 up.
Now the lib tards will say we can't do that and we should let em in, they're no different than others. Not all are bad its true but we need to be vigilant n not totally trusting. You can take the facts or bury your heads in political correctness.
Some phycho kills kids in columbine, Virginia tech or something n the numbers are way less than the terrorist attacks. The lib tards make a big deal about it but never say a word about the big numbers being killed by terrorists. Nuts we accept this behavior. Last night the liberal news networks basically passed over the kids, yet made a big deal of their Trump/Russia agenda. This is crazy.
The most unpatriotic, anti American people around are the people who value others lives before Americans. They treat their family different I'm sure. America is one big family.
Quote from: Bowguy on May 23, 2017, 09:51:22 AM
Yesterday a bunch of kids were killed by a dirt ball. He blew himself up too. Hmmm one guy dead but he killed 22, hurt many more.
Imo we oughta have "repercussions" for such behavior.
One good way is payback 10-1. No one up, 10 up.
Now the lib tards will say we can't do that and we should let em in, they're no different than others. Not all are bad its true but we need to be vigilant n not totally trusting. You can take the facts or bury your heads in political correctness.
Some phycho kills kids in columbine, Virginia tech or something n the numbers are way less than the terrorist attacks. The lib tards make a big deal about it but never say a word about the big numbers being killed by terrorists. Nuts we accept this behavior. Last night the liberal news networks basically passed over the kids, yet made a big deal of their Trump/Russia agenda. This is crazy.
The most unpatriotic, anti American people around are the people who value others lives before Americans. They treat their family different I'm sure. America is one big family.
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The funny thing. which really isnt funny, is libtards are notorius in turning things around making the victim the bad guy. For instance , 2 18 year old boys broke into a home and tried to attack a 14 year old girl. She was able to get a shotgun and kill one of the hood rats. The libtards screamed that the girl shouldnt have killed one but instead scare them away. Its sickening.
Why would people who think it's okay to kill three quarters of a million babies each year be concerned when some satanic being kills innocent kids at a concert?
Quote from: larry9988 on May 23, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
Why would people who think it's okay to kill three quarters of a million babies each year be concerned when some satanic being kills innocent kids at a concert?
Let some guy kill a litter of blind, deaf, deformed pups though n they'll freak out.
Yep, I'm a news/political junky. My thoughts last night were similiar. In basic training (I'm sure some will remember) DSGs used group punishment for the bad behavior of one or just a few. It works, in short order you can have a group of trainees policing themselves. I know some may find it offensive but perhaps we should try that approach and punish all who subscribe to that belief. I would think they would start policing themselves. If they don't then it's likely they will never share American values and freedoms that we do. Easy decision if they don't confirm, feed them to the hogs.
You're speaking my language. Truly sick of the idiots. Coexist with people who want nothing more than to kill all of us...never makes a lick of sense!
Bowguy you hit it on the head.
Amen
A whole new level of depravity, prayers out to the families
This is the reason that I do not watch the news anymore and very little tv. All I found myself doing was getting worked up over the media baiting. I have better things to do with my life essence.
Yep! :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
I get my news from the weather channel. Having said that things need to change. If you are a suspected terrorist you get arrested until proving otherwise. A bullet in the head no questioned asked if proven guilty.
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Quote from: larry9988 on May 23, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
Why would people who think it's okay to kill three quarters of a million babies each year be concerned when some satanic being kills innocent kids at a concert?
You nailed it.
Some people will never get it and will always be idiots. At nicest we need a big Island with no communication to ship them off to after a spayed and neuter program of course.
Crazy white people with guns kill significantly more people than terrorists do each year.
Just a thought.....
^^^^tell that to the victims of 9-11
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^^^^tell that to the victims of 9-11
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I I think some forget the horrible scenes of that on T.V. of people having the choice of jump or burn.Right after that happened i don't think very many citizens weren't on the same page of revenge. Some have forgotten in time. Not me. Hopefully I'll never see that again and im all for doing everything we can to stop it whether it be crazy terrorist or crazy white people. At the very least if they don't blow themselves up in the process we could at least do it for them after they get caught.
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
Kudos for at least realizing your one.The first step in fixing ones self is realizing you have a problem.
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Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
Kudos for at least realizing your one.The first step in fixing ones self is realizing you have a problem.
I think I'll stick with my "problem", Reverend.
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Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
Kudos for at least realizing your one.The first step in fixing ones self is realizing you have a problem.
I think I'll stick with my "problem", Reverend.
Where's the Love??Sounds like you need a hug. Lol..
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Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
Kudos for at least realizing your one.The first step in fixing ones self is realizing you have a problem.
I think I'll stick with my "problem", Reverend.
Where's the Love??Sounds like you need a hug. Lol..
Good one.
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
No disrespect to you on a personal level but liberalism is mental disorder. That being said you're certainly entitled to any crazy beliefs. I'm not gonna say more about it to you except without liberals the world would be much better
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 25, 2017, 08:07:53 PM
Crazy white people with guns kill significantly more people than terrorists do each year.
Just a thought.....
To say crazy white people makes you sound like you're anti American though I'm by absolutely no means saying you are. God bless you n you're opinion but what about all the other crazy races? They make white crime seem small.
Point is none of that matters, it's all gotta be addressed but we've got a big prob w certain types. Especially certain religions. This isn't bigotry it's fact. You can act like it's not but unfortunately you'd be wrong. We've got to protect our homeland and children before playing Russian roulette
More kids dead in Egypt today. Just cause they had Christain beliefs, bet crazy white people weren't at blame. Bet the NRA wasn't to blame, bet Trump wasn't to blame. What could it be????
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
No disrespect to you on a personal level but liberalism is mental disorder. That being said you're certainly entitled to any crazy beliefs. I'm not gonna say more about it to you except without liberals the world would be much better
I see nothing but the utmost disrespect in your response. Rather than stoop to petty shots at your different way of thinking, I'll not swing down.
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Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
No disrespect to you on a personal level but liberalism is mental disorder. That being said you're certainly entitled to any crazy beliefs. I'm not gonna say more about it to you except without liberals the world would be much better
I see nothing but the utmost disrespect in your response. Rather than stoop to petty shots at your different way of thinking, I'll not swing down.
Buddy there's no disrespect to you personally. I do disrespect the liberal anti American agenda. It's screwed up the country. Things I hold dear they're against.
God, guns, morals, ethics. If the liberals want to live in a same sex, drug infested, vegetarian, area that's fine w me. Keep it over there. I/we force nothing on so keep your agenda over there. That's how we co exist. Your entitled to live in any way you chose so long as it doesn't affect me. That's not good enough for you people. You want to force us to like things we see as dirty, vile, you want to cram immoral ways down our throat. Who's not respecting who??
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
No disrespect to you on a personal level but liberalism is mental disorder. That being said you're certainly entitled to any crazy beliefs. I'm not gonna say more about it to you except without liberals the world would be much better
I see nothing but the utmost disrespect in your response. Rather than stoop to petty shots at your different way of thinking, I'll not swing down.
Buddy there's no disrespect to you personally. I do disrespect the liberal anti American agenda. It's screwed up the country. Things I hold dear they're against.
God, guns, morals, ethics. If the liberals want to live in a same sex, drug infested, vegetarian, area that's fine w me. Keep it over there. I/we force nothing on so keep your agenda over there. That's how we co exist. Your entitled to live in any way you chose so long as it doesn't affect me. That's not good enough for you people. You want to force us to like things we see as dirty, vile, you want to cram immoral ways down our throat. Who's not respecting who??
I have not disrespected you for an instance. The same can't be said for yourself. I'll go back to my drug infested hog pen now. That's where I live. Subhuman
Quote from: compton30 on May 27, 2017, 01:58:07 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
No disrespect to you on a personal level but liberalism is mental disorder. That being said you're certainly entitled to any crazy beliefs. I'm not gonna say more about it to you except without liberals the world would be much better
I see nothing but the utmost disrespect in your response. Rather than stoop to petty shots at your different way of thinking, I'll not swing down.
Buddy there's no disrespect to you personally. I do disrespect the liberal anti American agenda. It's screwed up the country. Things I hold dear they're against.
God, guns, morals, ethics. If the liberals want to live in a same sex, drug infested, vegetarian, area that's fine w me. Keep it over there. I/we force nothing on so keep your agenda over there. That's how we co exist. Your entitled to live in any way you chose so long as it doesn't affect me. That's not good enough for you people. You want to force us to like things we see as dirty, vile, you want to cram immoral ways down our throat. Who's not respecting who??
I have not disrespected you for an instance. The same can't be said for yourself. I'll go back to my drug infested hog pen now. That's where I live. Subhuman
It's not you personally. I'm sure you're a decent guy but the liberal agenda has your people forcing what I and many others consider garbage down our throats. Just be happy w living your way and stay on that side of the street but that's not good enough for you.
There's no personal beef w you, it's your party's agenda.
Look even the election loss was not accepted by you folks, first you cried on pillows, than made excuses. Now everything in your media is Trump negative. Obama was the worst Pres we've ever seen.
When he was in there weren't giant protests.
Why? cause maybe we had to work to pay for your programs.
Buddy look we can go on n on. You're wrong, whether you see that or not.
Quote from: Bowguy on May 27, 2017, 02:20:22 AM
Quote from: compton30 on May 27, 2017, 01:58:07 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 26, 2017, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
No disrespect to you on a personal level but liberalism is mental disorder. That being said you're certainly entitled to any crazy beliefs. I'm not gonna say more about it to you except without liberals the world would be much better
I see nothing but the utmost disrespect in your response. Rather than stoop to petty shots at your different way of thinking, I'll not swing down.
Buddy there's no disrespect to you personally. I do disrespect the liberal anti American agenda. It's screwed up the country. Things I hold dear they're against.
God, guns, morals, ethics. If the liberals want to live in a same sex, drug infested, vegetarian, area that's fine w me. Keep it over there. I/we force nothing on so keep your agenda over there. That's how we co exist. Your entitled to live in any way you chose so long as it doesn't affect me. That's not good enough for you people. You want to force us to like things we see as dirty, vile, you want to cram immoral ways down our throat. Who's not respecting who??
I have not disrespected you for an instance. The same can't be said for yourself. I'll go back to my drug infested hog pen now. That's where I live. Subhuman
It's not you personally. I'm sure you're a decent guy but the liberal agenda has your people forcing what I and many others consider garbage down our throats. Just be happy w living your way and stay on that side of the street but that's not good enough for you.
There's no personal beef w you, it's your party's agenda.
Look even the election loss was not accepted by you folks, first you cried on pillows, than made excuses. Now everything in your media is Trump negative. Obama was the worst Pres we've ever seen.
When he was in there weren't giant protests.
Why? cause maybe we had to work to pay for your programs.
Buddy look we can go on n on. You're wrong, whether you see that or not.
Bud. You're the one forcing your lifestyle on folks. Stop telling me to do the same. I haven't done it for a second. You're a disrespectful dick who can't figure it out. Stop insulting other ways of thinking
Oh come on. You can't use that word on here. It's supposed to be family rated. Guess you're burning up n out of things to say. Shows defeat on your part.
I think we can all agree that none of us like terrorists but terrorism exists in many cultures and races.
The Islamic community is facing a significant period in their culture and I believe Islamic terrorism will ultimately be vanquished just as extreme Catholicism and Protestant brands were. So many people are forgetful of history and tend to see themselves as superior to others when the overwhelming truth is the humans have consistently demonstrated the capacity to do morally irrepressible things to each other all in the name of their God and their beliefs.
Quote from: Bowguy on May 27, 2017, 02:41:45 AM
Oh come on. You can't use that word on here. It's supposed to be family rated. Guess you're burning up n out of things to say. Shows defeat on your part.
Bowguy , just leave him alone. Liberalism is a incurable disease. They resort to temper tantrums and when someone trys to hold a adult discussion and debate , they lose thier mind. They preach forgiveness and love for everyone that agrees with them. Disagree and its on. Then when you get the better of them , they want their tissues and safe spaces. Good thing we didnt have a country full of them in the 40s. If we had , we would be speaking german and Japanese. I served 5 years as a paratrooper some of that time in combat. I did this because I feel that everyone in this country has a right to live the way they choose. For liberals though , they want to cram their lifestyle down our throats. Thats where I draw the line. So bowguy , carry on my friend. After all its your right and I happen to agree with you.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 27, 2017, 09:40:22 AM
I think we can all agree that none of us like terrorists but terrorism exists in many cultures and races.
The Islamic community is facing a significant period in their culture and I believe Islamic terrorism will ultimately be vanquished just as extreme Catholicism and Protestant brands were. So many people are forgetful of history and tend to see themselves as superior to others when the overwhelming truth is the humans have consistently demonstrated the capacity to do morally irrepressible things to each other all in the name of their God and their beliefs.
You've got some good points but feeling others feel superior isn't one. Seems you'd rather trust someone whose "historry" shows they're against us at least in abnormal averages that trust a fellow American has sincere concern for the country his children will inherit.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 27, 2017, 09:40:22 AM
I think we can all agree that none of us like terrorists but terrorism exists in many cultures and races.
The Islamic community is facing a significant period in their culture and I believe Islamic terrorism will ultimately be vanquished just as extreme Catholicism and Protestant brands were. So many people are forgetful of history and tend to see themselves as superior to others when the overwhelming truth is the humans have consistently demonstrated the capacity to do morally irrepressible things to each other all in the name of their God and their beliefs.
This is a common tactic of liberals - it's called moral relativism. There is no comparison between the modern civilized Christian world and the barbaric Muslim world that is stuck in the 15th century. Any rational person can see that.
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Quote from: Bowguy on May 27, 2017, 02:41:45 AM
Oh come on. You can't use that word on here. It's supposed to be family rated. Guess you're burning up n out of things to say. Shows defeat on your part.
Bowguy , just leave him alone. Liberalism is a incurable disease. They resort to temper tantrums and when someone trys to hold a adult discussion and debate , they lose thier mind. They preach forgiveness and love for everyone that agrees with them. Disagree and its on. Then when you get the better of them , they want their tissues and safe spaces. Good thing we didnt have a country full of them in the 40s. If we had , we would be speaking german and Japanese. I served 5 years as a paratrooper some of that time in combat. I did this because I feel that everyone in this country has a right to live the way they choose. For liberals though , they want to cram their lifestyle down our throats. Thats where I draw the line. So bowguy , carry on my friend. After all its your right and I happen to agree with you.
Amen!
Bowguy , i have your back on this , i have no time for liberal views...
Quote from: merriamsman on May 27, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 27, 2017, 09:40:22 AM
I think we can all agree that none of us like terrorists but terrorism exists in many cultures and races.
The Islamic community is facing a significant period in their culture and I believe Islamic terrorism will ultimately be vanquished just as extreme Catholicism and Protestant brands were. So many people are forgetful of history and tend to see themselves as superior to others when the overwhelming truth is the humans have consistently demonstrated the capacity to do morally irrepressible things to each other all in the name of their God and their beliefs.
This is a common tactic of liberals - it's called moral relativism. There is no comparison between the modern civilized Christian world and the barbaric Muslim world that is stuck in the 15th century. Any rational person can see that.
Any rational person can see the way Christian conservatives push their Bibles, their God and their morals is the epitome of hypocrisy when they start discussing "small government". They're all ok with policy and "freedom" until it offends their faith and then their the first to condemn others.
As far as the Islamic world, their society, their institutions and their culture is entirely constructed around their faith. No one can deny they have taken a different path in contrast to other groups but millions of people have been killed in the name of "faith." I, for one, hope the Middle East can embrace a more progressive version of Islam as we are beginning to see in several countries.
All country folk aren't uneducated rednecks although some are.
All Muslims aren't terrorists although some are.
All Germans weren't Nazis, although some were.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 27, 2017, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: merriamsman on May 27, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 27, 2017, 09:40:22 AM
I think we can all agree that none of us like terrorists but terrorism exists in many cultures and races.
The Islamic community is facing a significant period in their culture and I believe Islamic terrorism will ultimately be vanquished just as extreme Catholicism and Protestant brands were. So many people are forgetful of history and tend to see themselves as superior to others when the overwhelming truth is the humans have consistently demonstrated the capacity to do morally irrepressible things to each other all in the name of their God and their beliefs.
This is a common tactic of liberals - it's called moral relativism. There is no comparison between the modern civilized Christian world and the barbaric Muslim world that is stuck in the 15th century. Any rational person can see that.
Any rational person can see the way Christian conservatives push their Bibles, their God and their morals is the epitome of hypocrisy when they start discussing "small government". They're all ok with policy and "freedom" until it offends their faith and then their the first to condemn others.
As far as the Islamic world, their society, their institutions and their culture is entirely constructed around their faith. No one can deny they have taken a different path in contrast to other groups but millions of people have been killed in the name of "faith." I, for one, hope the Middle East can embrace a more progressive version of Islam as we are beginning to see in several countries.
All country folk aren't uneducated rednecks although some are.
All Muslims aren't terrorists although some are.
All Germans weren't Nazis, although some were.
Do you actually know how ridiculous you sound??
Quote from: Greg Massey on May 27, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
Bowguy , i have your back on this , i have no time for liberal views...
same here, Bowguy is spot on in his evaluation of the useful idiots of America's enemies called liberals.
"All Muslims aren't terrorists although some are." Again, classic liberal tactic. How many terrorists are NOT Muslim, huh? Why don't you list some terrorist incidents in this century that were NOT committed by Muslims? If there are any at all, the number is infinitesimally small compared to those committed by Muslims.
Quote from: Greg Massey on May 27, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
Bowguy , i have your back on this , i have no time for liberal views...
Im behind you on this one 100% bowguy !!!
I was thinking something. Just trying to be open minded. Since the two libs on here think the muslim terrorists are so misunderstood, maybe they can talk sense into them. We haven't actually tried this yet.,
You can sell your agenda of allowing people illegally into their country, taxing the system in order to sway to type country it is. You can tell them it's not right to pray in public. Get em to take down all religious items from public view. You can talk about guys n girls being even, about allowing same sex couples to love each other freely, take away all their assault rifles, after all theirs are more dangerous than ours? It's prob just the guns.
You can talk to them about being kind and not eating meat or bullying, you can even get em to respect other religions. Maybe some sensitivity training?
The two of you can get a bunch of like minded folks to block their vehicles, protest or otherwise disrupt their day.
Maybe they'll build habitat for humanity if you ask hard enough. Idk guys you all are the experts. Whatever you think works but I nominate you to take the lead on this one. I'm sure you can do it
That's some good stuff right there.Bowguy you wouldn't have a hidden agenda behind this would you?? Lol... :TooFunny: :icon_thumright:
Have to agree with bowguy 100%. I could even go a little farther than his comments!
Thank God for crazy white guys with guns like... Sam Adams, Patrick Henry and John Hancock.
Also thankful for all of those who paid the ultimate so we can have this debate.
:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
Quote from: Rzrbac on May 27, 2017, 06:51:48 PM
Have to agree with bowguy 100%. I could even go a little farther than his comments!
Thank God for crazy white guys with guns like... Sam Adams, Patrick Henry and John Hancock.
Also thankful for all of those who paid the ultimate so we can have this debate.
:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
:agreed: :boon: :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
Quote from: Rzrbac on May 27, 2017, 06:51:48 PM
Have to agree with bowguy 100%. I could even go a little farther than his comments!
Thank God for crazy white guys with guns like... Sam Adams, Patrick Henry and John Hancock.
Also thankful for all of those who paid the ultimate so we can have this debate.
:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an :you_rock:
Quote from: Bowguy on May 27, 2017, 05:44:21 PM
I was thinking something. Just trying to be open minded. Since the two libs on here think the muslim terrorists are so misunderstood, maybe they can talk sense into them. We haven't actually tried this yet.,
You can sell your agenda of allowing people illegally into their country, taxing the system in order to sway to type country it is. You can tell them it's not right to pray in public. Get em to take down all religious items from public view. You can talk about guys n girls being even, about allowing same sex couples to love each other freely, take away all their assault rifles, after all theirs are more dangerous than ours? It's prob just the guns.
You can talk to them about being kind and not eating meat or bullying, you can even get em to respect other religions. Maybe some sensitivity training?
The two of you can get a bunch of like minded folks to block their vehicles, protest or otherwise disrupt their day.
Maybe they'll build habitat for humanity if you ask hard enough. Idk guys you all are the experts. Whatever you think works but I nominate you to take the lead on this one. I'm sure you can do it
The amount of generalizing and assumption contained within this post is almost impossible to address.
First, I don't identify as a liberal. I just don't believe in intolerance or stereotyping.
Second, I never once said Muslim terrorists are misunderstood. I said the Islamic community and their society is largely misunderstood. If people misunderstand things, the optic through which they formulate their opinions is skewed. That's not a good thing.
Muslim terrorists who attack Christians in Egypt are vile. Just like Bashir Assad using chemical weapons against his own people is vile. Just like rascist rednecks with confederate flag shirts swerving to hit a black guy walking down a road in Mississippi are vile. Just like a crazy white guys who yell at Muslim women in Portland Oregon and sit the throats of the people who stand up for her is vile. Just like a rascist kid who goes into a black church in Charleston and shoots innocent people because of the color of their skin is vile.
Third, you're quite defensive if religious liberty in your post. I have no issues with religion or people who practice it. I have issues with people who use their religion as a weapon against others because they feel superior in their beliefs. I have gay friends. I have gay colleagues. They are not lesser people. They didn't choose to be who they are just like you didn't "choose" to love women (I presume you do). They have rights and I do not support the religious community's attempts to deny those rights based on some bullsh*t moral justification.
I could go on but we're not going to agree on any of this so I'll digress.
I just want to point out a few things that may not be popular.
I also have gay friends, clients and relatives. Many of them are Christians and attend church. It may not be the church you attend, but one is an elder in my church, our piano player and a vibrant member of our church. I have had several meaningful discussions with him on the subject. If he were Muslim, depending on the country in which he lived, he would be dead, at best.
People always like to give examples of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and that is valid in pointing out hypocrisy, but not valid in pointing out the differences in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is just not. If you are, or were a Christian (thinking Crusades, KKK, Westboro, etc), you are quite simply not following the teachings of Christ. If you are a Muslim, you can freely commit jihad against the infidels and follow, to the letter, the teachings of Mohammed in the Q'uran. Then an atheist or agnostic points out the violence in the Old Testament. That is a history of the people of God according to all three religions (yes, Muslims too, they are people of The Book). In Christianity, Jesus gives us the New Covenant (new promise) between believers in Jesus and God. There is no call to killing, no call to taking over other lands and imposing religious law - in fact quite the opposite. So when admonishing a modern Christian of the atrocities committed by a Christian, it does not ring true, as the modern true Christian believes those acts were NOT committed following the teachings of Christ. And will condemn them. The same does not hold true in Islam. Read the Pew Research poll on Islam (hardly a right wing organization) for some eye opening differences.
I believe a liberal can look at the world and intelligently, even prayerfully come to very different conclusions than me and that person is worthy of respect (ie Jimmy Carter) even though I will agree with almost nothing they say. I have read extensively on many of the world's major religions and Christian denominations and my opinions, while open, are well formed for me.
A great, short read is America Alone by Mark Steyn. He is not from the US.
Terrorism should be prosecuted with fervor regardless of religious affiliation and if a group has the majority of terrorists, I have no problem in targeting that group. I don't hunt turkeys at the beach.
Quote from: g8rvet on May 28, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
I just want to point out a few things that may not be popular.
I also have gay friends, clients and relatives. Many of them are Christians and attend church. It may not be the church you attend, but one is an elder in my church, our piano player and a vibrant member of our church. I have had several meaningful discussions with him on the subject. If he were Muslim, depending on the country in which he lived, he would be dead, at best.
People always like to give examples of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and that is valid in pointing out hypocrisy, but not valid in pointing out the differences in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is just not. If you are, or were a Christian (thinking Crusades, KKK, Westboro, etc), you are quite simply not following the teachings of Christ. If you are a Muslim, you can freely commit jihad against the infidels and follow, to the letter, the teachings of Mohammed in the Q'uran. Then an atheist or agnostic points out the violence in the Old Testament. That is a history of the people of God according to all three religions (yes, Muslims too, they are people of The Book). In Christianity, Jesus gives us the New Covenant (new promise) between believers in Jesus and God. There is no call to killing, no call to taking over other lands and imposing religious law - in fact quite the opposite. So when admonishing a modern Christian of the atrocities committed by a Christian, it does not ring true, as the modern true Christian believes those acts were NOT committed following the teachings of Christ. And will condemn them. The same does not hold true in Islam. Read the Pew Research poll on Islam (hardly a right wing organization) for some eye opening differences.
I believe a liberal can look at the world and intelligently, even prayerfully come to very different conclusions than me and that person is worthy of respect (ie Jimmy Carter) even though I will agree with almost nothing they say. I have read extensively on many of the world's major religions and Christian denominations and my opinions, while open, are well formed for me.
A great, short read is America Alone by Mark Steyn. He is not from the US.
Terrorism should be prosecuted with fervor regardless of religious affiliation and if a group has the majority of terrorists, I have no problem in targeting that group. I don't hunt turkeys at the beach.
Well said
One of the differences between liberals n normal folks is the libs ability/desire to see things as being "even" when speaking way past tense and when things are way skewed against them. Things happened thousands of years ago aren't the same as kids being killed yesterday nor one instance the same as many . We've got to move forward and better the world.
The other thing is the excuses, sort of where Hillary got her playbook from but if you ask a normal guy about Timothy McVeigh which is certainly a bad dude most folks would just call him wrong and leave it at that. Libs make excuses why their people do what they do.
Quote from: warrent423 on May 28, 2017, 09:51:40 AM
Piss on the gays and piss on the muslims.
:TooFunny:
Quote from: warrent423 on May 28, 2017, 09:51:40 AM
Piss on the gays and piss on the muslims, and most of all, piss on liberals
X2......they are all three hurting every society as a whole and there is no excuse for either!!!
Been a big problem with all three for thousands of years!!!
:popcorn:
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 07:20:27 AM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on May 26, 2017, 06:26:35 AM
Quote from: compton30 on May 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I would have loved to have had a discussion on the extreme vetting process of refugees from the Middle East, right up to the point of referring to Liberals as "Lib-Tards." Just a complete turnoff that has me wanting to have zero conversation with someone with a different point of view of things. Then again, I'm just a "lib-tard" so what do I know about anything?
Kudos for at least realizing your one.The first step in fixing ones self is realizing you have a problem.
I think I'll stick with my "problem", Reverend.
. Only question I have for liberals...how much time have you spent in the middle eastern countries dealing with these people. They have pure undiluted hatred for you as an American and they do not understand or care how many bleeding heart tree hugging everybody has rights liberals are in America They want the same end for you as they did for me it's in there DNA.
Quote from: warrent423 on May 28, 2017, 09:51:40 AM
Piss on the gays and piss on the muslims, and most of all, piss on liberals
The irony is that a lot of Islamic nations (at least the problem ones) feel the same way.
Quote from: g8rvet on May 28, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
I just want to point out a few things that may not be popular.
I also have gay friends, clients and relatives. Many of them are Christians and attend church. It may not be the church you attend, but one is an elder in my church, our piano player and a vibrant member of our church. I have had several meaningful discussions with him on the subject. If he were Muslim, depending on the country in which he lived, he would be dead, at best.
People always like to give examples of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and that is valid in pointing out hypocrisy, but not valid in pointing out the differences in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is just not. If you are, or were a Christian (thinking Crusades, KKK, Westboro, etc), you are quite simply not following the teachings of Christ. If you are a Muslim, you can freely commit jihad against the infidels and follow, to the letter, the teachings of Mohammed in the Q'uran. Then an atheist or agnostic points out the violence in the Old Testament. That is a history of the people of God according to all three religions (yes, Muslims too, they are people of The Book). In Christianity, Jesus gives us the New Covenant (new promise) between believers in Jesus and God. There is no call to killing, no call to taking over other lands and imposing religious law - in fact quite the opposite. So when admonishing a modern Christian of the atrocities committed by a Christian, it does not ring true, as the modern true Christian believes those acts were NOT committed following the teachings of Christ. And will condemn them. The same does not hold true in Islam. Read the Pew Research poll on Islam (hardly a right wing organization) for some eye opening differences.
I believe a liberal can look at the world and intelligently, even prayerfully come to very different conclusions than me and that person is worthy of respect (ie Jimmy Carter) even though I will agree with almost nothing they say. I have read extensively on many of the world's major religions and Christian denominations and my opinions, while open, are well formed for me.
A great, short read is America Alone by Mark Steyn. He is not from the US.
Terrorism should be prosecuted with fervor regardless of religious affiliation and if a group has the majority of terrorists, I have no problem in targeting that group. I don't hunt turkeys at the beach.
.The old Testement makes clear Gods stance on homosexuality ( Sodom and Gomorrah for one) also says a man with a man or a women with a women is an abomination. Jesus plainly says in the New Testement that he came to fulfill the law ( Old Testement) not change the law. No we're in the Bible does homosexuality get Gods approval it is the one an only thing I can agree with muslims about.
Quote from: Bowguy on May 28, 2017, 08:57:31 AM
One of the differences between liberals n normal folks is the libs ability/desire to see things as being "even" when speaking way past tense and when things are way skewed against them. Things happened thousands of years ago aren't the same as kids being killed yesterday nor one instance the same as many . We've got to move forward and better the world.
The other thing is the excuses, sort of where Hillary got her playbook from but if you ask a normal guy about Timothy McVeigh which is certainly a bad dude most folks would just call him wrong and leave it at that. Libs make excuses why their people do what they do.
Your redneck rhetoric is pretty amusing. Instead of dissecting the many contradictions and falsehoods in your beliefs I think we should just agree to disagree. You can't make small minded people understand that all things are not as linear as they'd like them to be.
And btw, libertarians aren't liberals. I'm not a fan of liberals and the way they seemingly want to destroy what little identity America has left. I'm not a fan of a lot the Left tends to identify with. Libertarians just have a sincere general tendency to truly be truly small government without feeling the need to impose religion on others. It's about stay the F out of other people's lives unless their actions truly violate your constitutional rights.
Quote from: Phillipshunt on May 28, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: g8rvet on May 28, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
I just want to point out a few things that may not be popular.
I also have gay friends, clients and relatives. Many of them are Christians and attend church. It may not be the church you attend, but one is an elder in my church, our piano player and a vibrant member of our church. I have had several meaningful discussions with him on the subject. If he were Muslim, depending on the country in which he lived, he would be dead, at best.
People always like to give examples of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and that is valid in pointing out hypocrisy, but not valid in pointing out the differences in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is just not. If you are, or were a Christian (thinking Crusades, KKK, Westboro, etc), you are quite simply not following the teachings of Christ. If you are a Muslim, you can freely commit jihad against the infidels and follow, to the letter, the teachings of Mohammed in the Q'uran. Then an atheist or agnostic points out the violence in the Old Testament. That is a history of the people of God according to all three religions (yes, Muslims too, they are people of The Book). In Christianity, Jesus gives us the New Covenant (new promise) between believers in Jesus and God. There is no call to killing, no call to taking over other lands and imposing religious law - in fact quite the opposite. So when admonishing a modern Christian of the atrocities committed by a Christian, it does not ring true, as the modern true Christian believes those acts were NOT committed following the teachings of Christ. And will condemn them. The same does not hold true in Islam. Read the Pew Research poll on Islam (hardly a right wing organization) for some eye opening differences.
I believe a liberal can look at the world and intelligently, even prayerfully come to very different conclusions than me and that person is worthy of respect (ie Jimmy Carter) even though I will agree with almost nothing they say. I have read extensively on many of the world's major religions and Christian denominations and my opinions, while open, are well formed for me.
A great, short read is America Alone by Mark Steyn. He is not from the US.
Terrorism should be prosecuted with fervor regardless of religious affiliation and if a group has the majority of terrorists, I have no problem in targeting that group. I don't hunt turkeys at the beach.
.The old Testement makes clear Gods stance on homosexuality ( Sodom and Gomorrah for one) also says a man with a man or a women with a women is an abomination. Jesus plainly says in the New Testement that he came to fulfill the law ( Old Testement) not change the law. No we're in the Bible does homosexuality get Gods approval it is the one an only thing I can agree with muslims about.
God is clear homosexuality is a sin, same for sex period outside of marraige, thinking about cheating on your spouse or hurting someone. He says you can sin in thought. Jesus also sat w the sinners n said "only the sick come to the Dr".
He said not to judge He'd judge in the end.
I'm not a pro any type sin guy but I sin too and it's also been said he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Homosexuality can't kill thousands like the terrorists can
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 28, 2017, 10:41:20 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 28, 2017, 08:57:31 AM
One of the differences between liberals n normal folks is the libs ability/desire to see things as being "even" when speaking way past tense and when things are way skewed against them. Things happened thousands of years ago aren't the same as kids being killed yesterday nor one instance the same as many . We've got to move forward and better the world.
The other thing is the excuses, sort of where Hillary got her playbook from but if you ask a normal guy about Timothy McVeigh which is certainly a bad dude most folks would just call him wrong and leave it at that. Libs make excuses why their people do what they do.
Your redneck rhetoric is pretty amusing. Instead of dissecting the many contradictions and falsehoods in your beliefs I think we should just agree to disagree. You can't make small minded people understand that all things are not as linear as they'd like them to be.
And btw, libertarians aren't liberals. I'm not a fan of liberals and the way they seemingly want to destroy what little identity America has left. I'm not a fan of a lot the Left tends to identify with. Libertarians just have a sincere general tendency to truly be truly small government without feeling the need to impose religion on others. It's about stay the F out of other people's lives unless their actions truly violate your constitutional rights.
How would you know I'm a redneck? Why would you say my beliefs are falsehoods? Seems you are the odd 2 men out.
Your entitled to your beliefs n I do respect that. Now you'd prob not curse at me if I was standing in front of you, the computer screen has you braver. It's no threat I promise just a factual observation.
The libs try constantly to violate our constitutional rights, look only to the second amendment or Obamas rant the constitution is an outdated document that needs replacing.
What about the lefts back door way to gun control and saying if you're on a "no fly" list you can't get guns. Sounds pretty logical but what about out "due process" as mentioned in the constitution.
You're making zero sense in your statements
Quote from: Bowguy on May 28, 2017, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 28, 2017, 10:41:20 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 28, 2017, 08:57:31 AM
One of the differences between liberals n normal folks is the libs ability/desire to see things as being "even" when speaking way past tense and when things are way skewed against them. Things happened thousands of years ago aren't the same as kids being killed yesterday nor one instance the same as many . We've got to move forward and better the world.
The other thing is the excuses, sort of where Hillary got her playbook from but if you ask a normal guy about Timothy McVeigh which is certainly a bad dude most folks would just call him wrong and leave it at that. Libs make excuses why their people do what they do.
Your redneck rhetoric is pretty amusing. Instead of dissecting the many contradictions and falsehoods in your beliefs I think we should just agree to disagree. You can't make small minded people understand that all things are not as linear as they'd like them to be.
And btw, libertarians aren't liberals. I'm not a fan of liberals and the way they seemingly want to destroy what little identity America has left. I'm not a fan of a lot the Left tends to identify with. Libertarians just have a sincere general tendency to truly be truly small government without feeling the need to impose religion on others. It's about stay the F out of other people's lives unless their actions truly violate your constitutional rights.
How would you know I'm a redneck? Why would you say my beliefs are falsehoods? Seems you are the odd 2 men out.
Your entitled to your beliefs n I do respect that. Now you'd prob not curse at me if I was standing in front of you, the computer screen has you braver. It's no threat I promise just a factual observation.
The libs try constantly to violate our constitutional rights, look only to the second amendment or Obamas rant the constitution is an outdated document that needs replacing.
What about the lefts back door way to gun control and saying if you're on a "no fly" list you can't get guns. Sounds pretty logical but what about out "due process" as mentioned in the constitution.
You're making zero sense in your statements
As for as i'm concern Bowguy, i have never like him or his comments or views...Rock on brother.. We got your back... calling people redneck....omg....he's a fine one to talk....
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
If you actually listen to what these libtards say, it's a bunch of high sounding words that mean nothing. They stand for nothing, believe in nothing, are empty inside, and that is why they have such contempt for people that do believe in a higher power that rules the universe. They don't believe in God, so they think men are gods. That is why they revile linear thinkers - in their world there is no absolute truth - since men are gods, then every man can create his own truth.
Quote from: Bowguy on May 28, 2017, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Phillipshunt on May 28, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: g8rvet on May 28, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
I just want to point out a few things that may not be popular.
I also have gay friends, clients and relatives. Many of them are Christians and attend church. It may not be the church you attend, but one is an elder in my church, our piano player and a vibrant member of our church. I have had several meaningful discussions with him on the subject. If he were Muslim, depending on the country in which he lived, he would be dead, at best.
People always like to give examples of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and that is valid in pointing out hypocrisy, but not valid in pointing out the differences in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is just not. If you are, or were a Christian (thinking Crusades, KKK, Westboro, etc), you are quite simply not following the teachings of Christ. If you are a Muslim, you can freely commit jihad against the infidels and follow, to the letter, the teachings of Mohammed in the Q'uran. Then an atheist or agnostic points out the violence in the Old Testament. That is a history of the people of God according to all three religions (yes, Muslims too, they are people of The Book). In Christianity, Jesus gives us the New Covenant (new promise) between believers in Jesus and God. There is no call to killing, no call to taking over other lands and imposing religious law - in fact quite the opposite. So when admonishing a modern Christian of the atrocities committed by a Christian, it does not ring true, as the modern true Christian believes those acts were NOT committed following the teachings of Christ. And will condemn them. The same does not hold true in Islam. Read the Pew Research poll on Islam (hardly a right wing organization) for some eye opening differences.
I believe a liberal can look at the world and intelligently, even prayerfully come to very different conclusions than me and that person is worthy of respect (ie Jimmy Carter) even though I will agree with almost nothing they say. I have read extensively on many of the world's major religions and Christian denominations and my opinions, while open, are well formed for me.
A great, short read is America Alone by Mark Steyn. He is not from the US.
Terrorism should be prosecuted with fervor regardless of religious affiliation and if a group has the majority of terrorists, I have no problem in targeting that group. I don't hunt turkeys at the beach.
.The old Testement makes clear Gods stance on homosexuality ( Sodom and Gomorrah for one) also says a man with a man or a women with a women is an abomination. Jesus plainly says in the New Testement that he came to fulfill the law ( Old Testement) not change the law. No we're in the Bible does homosexuality get Gods approval it is the one an only thing I can agree with muslims about.
God is clear homosexuality is a sin, same for sex period outside of marraige, thinking about cheating on your spouse or hurting someone. He says you can sin in thought. Jesus also sat w the sinners n said "only the sick come to the Dr".
He said not to judge He'd judge in the end.
I'm not a pro any type sin guy but I sin too and it's also been said he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Homosexuality can't kill thousands like the terrorists can
Very well said Bowguy. I never said homosexuality is not a sin, I agree with you Phil and did not say otherwise. I sin every day. So do you. So does everyone. As someone in the Reformed Tradition, a sin is a sin in my beliefs, no one greater than another. As ye Judge, so shall ye be Judged. Only One sits on the right hand and it is neither you nor me.
(all this that follows is my faith, how I was taught, not implying it is the only Christian interpretation)The Law Jesus was talking about was all of the Mosaic Law. According to my faith, He did come to fulfill the law. And He did. Otherwise, we would still observe the laws of Moses. Paul's teachings say that "sin will have no mastery over you, because you are not under law, you are under grace". Just curious what is your denomination? Here is a non-denominational interpretation that I used once to teach adult Sunday school. https://bible.org/article/mosaic-law-its-function-and-purpose-new-testament
Like often occurs, homosexuality is polarizing and distracting from the point of this thread (and I think sometimes from our faith). I thought it was about the Muslim faith and terrorism. Christianity does not and never has condoned violence. People claiming they are Christians have. There are dozens of references in the Quran, attributed to the prophet, which the Muslim believes is infallible, which incite violence. That is why I said what I did about the differences.
Quote from: Bowguy on May 28, 2017, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Phillipshunt on May 28, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: g8rvet on May 28, 2017, 08:22:13 AM
I just want to point out a few things that may not be popular.
I also have gay friends, clients and relatives. Many of them are Christians and attend church. It may not be the church you attend, but one is an elder in my church, our piano player and a vibrant member of our church. I have had several meaningful discussions with him on the subject. If he were Muslim, depending on the country in which he lived, he would be dead, at best.
People always like to give examples of atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and that is valid in pointing out hypocrisy, but not valid in pointing out the differences in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. It is just not. If you are, or were a Christian (thinking Crusades, KKK, Westboro, etc), you are quite simply not following the teachings of Christ. If you are a Muslim, you can freely commit jihad against the infidels and follow, to the letter, the teachings of Mohammed in the Q'uran. Then an atheist or agnostic points out the violence in the Old Testament. That is a history of the people of God according to all three religions (yes, Muslims too, they are people of The Book). In Christianity, Jesus gives us the New Covenant (new promise) between believers in Jesus and God. There is no call to killing, no call to taking over other lands and imposing religious law - in fact quite the opposite. So when admonishing a modern Christian of the atrocities committed by a Christian, it does not ring true, as the modern true Christian believes those acts were NOT committed following the teachings of Christ. And will condemn them. The same does not hold true in Islam. Read the Pew Research poll on Islam (hardly a right wing organization) for some eye opening differences.
I believe a liberal can look at the world and intelligently, even prayerfully come to very different conclusions than me and that person is worthy of respect (ie Jimmy Carter) even though I will agree with almost nothing they say. I have read extensively on many of the world's major religions and Christian denominations and my opinions, while open, are well formed for me.
A great, short read is America Alone by Mark Steyn. He is not from the US.
Terrorism should be prosecuted with fervor regardless of religious affiliation and if a group has the majority of terrorists, I have no problem in targeting that group. I don't hunt turkeys at the beach.
.The old Testement makes clear Gods stance on homosexuality ( Sodom and Gomorrah for one) also says a man with a man or a women with a women is an abomination. Jesus plainly says in the New Testement that he came to fulfill the law ( Old Testement) not change the law. No we're in the Bible does homosexuality get Gods approval it is the one an only thing I can agree with muslims about.
God is clear homosexuality is a sin, same for sex period outside of marraige, thinking about cheating on your spouse or hurting someone. He says you can sin in thought. Jesus also sat w the sinners n said "only the sick come to the Dr".
He said not to judge He'd judge in the end.
I'm not a pro any type sin guy but I sin too and it's also been said he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Homosexuality can't kill thousands like the terrorists can
Hundreds of thousands of gay men have died of aids occording to the CDC
I voted for Clinton the 1st time because I thought that's what middle class did. I have always been a supporter of a strong military too. I hate people who pray on the weak. Well after three attacks against the USA Clinton shot a couple missiles at the bad guys. The only reason he did that was to draw attention away from his womanizing. I don't vote Democratic anymore. And I thank God we have men who do what needs doing and leaders who are not afraid to lead and order those men. Anyone of us could have been born in a country who's leaders kill our family in front of us for there cause. Think about that. Be thankful you were born in THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.
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