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Started by Louisiana Longbeard, August 02, 2023, 11:51:57 AM
Quote from: Louisiana Longbeard on August 02, 2023, 11:51:57 AMArkansas changed its 2023/2024 fees big time. You can no longer buy the 1 day, 3 day, and 5 day for turkey. Non resident hunters must buy the license that is $410 plus a $100 turkey stamp fee. So $510 for a non resident to turkey hunt next year!
Quote from: Dtrkyman on August 03, 2023, 12:06:25 PMWe will be Europe before too long, the poor folk will be priced out of hunting, even on "public" lands!
Quote from: joey46 on August 28, 2023, 06:15:15 PMJust an IMO but if your state has a limit of more than two don't bother whining about decreasing turkey numbers. You are the problem not the solution.
Quote from: joey46 on August 28, 2023, 06:17:35 AMBTW - still show a limit of 3 gobblers in MS. Pretty much eliminates any talk about population decline concerns doesn't it?
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on August 29, 2023, 08:59:25 AMQuote from: joey46 on August 28, 2023, 06:17:35 AMBTW - still show a limit of 3 gobblers in MS. Pretty much eliminates any talk about population decline concerns doesn't it?Quote from: joey46 on August 28, 2023, 06:15:15 PMJust an IMO but if your state has a limit of more than two don't bother whining about decreasing turkey numbers. You are the problem not the solution.Because most biologists know lowering the limit from 3 to 2 will not do a thing on the landscape level to increase turkey populations. And they recognize the importance of preserving opportunity. Such a small percent of hunters actually take 3 (only about 10% of hunters who actually kill a turkey in MS, get their limit of 3), the change coming from going from 3 to 2 is insignificant. The gobbler "saved" also has to survive other hunters, or even the same hunter (who can take someone else), and then make it another year in nature to be "carried over". Multiple scientific models show the effect is insignificant as well. Continuing to use MS for example:10k reported birds harvested~10% of those birds are someone's #3~1,000 birds saved (Assumption, they could be killed by someone else) by reducing bag limit to 2Spread those 1,000 birds across 82 counties~12 gobblers "saved" per county in MS The math will look very similar for other states.
Quote from: nativeks on August 29, 2023, 11:27:25 AMI can tell you the pressure that was relieved when we went from 2 to 1 was tremendous.[/quoteI'm sure it was. After reading multiple post for multiple months over this precieved turkey population crisis we still have some justifying three bird limits. If two birds doesn't satisfy you take up golf.
Quote from: joey46 on August 29, 2023, 05:58:17 PMQuote from: nativeks on August 29, 2023, 11:27:25 AMI can tell you the pressure that was relieved when we went from 2 to 1 was tremendous.I'm sure it was. After reading multiple post for multiple months over this precieved turkey population crisis we still have some justifying three bird limits. If two birds doesn't satisfy you take up golf.
Quote from: nativeks on August 29, 2023, 11:27:25 AMI can tell you the pressure that was relieved when we went from 2 to 1 was tremendous.