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Started by Greg Massey, March 18, 2025, 11:13:55 AM

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Quote from: GobbleNut on March 18, 2025, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: Guskie on March 18, 2025, 09:43:52 PMGN - that is how it is stated in the "Frequently Asked Questions" page. I hope it more clearly defined in state code.

I suspect that it is...and is probably pretty clear in the regs, as well. I only pointed it out because I have seen some pretty badly worded regulations over the years from agencies that should have known better.  :)
Bear in mind these regulations are usually laws written by state legislatures.  And all the committee changes and additions that go with them. The enforcing agencies don't always have a say in them.
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eggshell

Here in Ohio, the wildlife agency writes the rules/laws. They fall under a revised state code but the specific rule changes are promulgated by the wildlife agency and then adopted into law after our wildlife council approves them. I have no idea how other states do it, but here the legislatures have no part in writing wildlife laws.

sasquatch1

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Quote from: Mossyguy on March 23, 2025, 10:10:12 AM[quote author=GobbleNut link=msg=1217531 date=1742734136

I would go before the "judge" in the case and say "Your honor, I thought the regulation meant that I only had to have a "license" of some sort to verify my identity. 

I'd say you'd have a pretty good argument..it's all there in black and white
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Id say the judge would look at you like a moron playing games. That's the problem with the world, even the normal people like to play dumb, and there's a ton of lawyers standing ny to defend the stupidity.

Then later, we complain when laws are wrote up in lawyer language.

Mossyguy

Quote from: sasquatch1 on March 24, 2025, 08:41:29 AM
Quote from: Mossyguy on March 23, 2025, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut link=msg=url="tel:1217531"]1217531[/url] date=1742734136




Id say the judge would look at you like a moron playing games. That's the problem with the world, even the normal people like to play dumb, and there's a ton of lawyers standing ny to defend the stupidity.

If I were the judge I'd definitely look at the individual like a moron...but you never know..lol

NCL

I actually saw a court order today where the judge responded to the attorney "do you think I am an idiot". I do not think I would want to try that defense in court in case the judge was having a bad day as it might not go to well.

deerhunt1988

"But Your Honor, the internet told me this was a good defense!"  :TooFunny:

Dtrkyman

The judge is not "judging" anyone, he is judging the law, well he is supposed to anyway!

sasquatch1

The law, found under hunting regulations for a specific species draw hunt, should be EASILY understood to mean a license to hunt that species.

It's a damn shame so many people in the world truly enjoy and take pride in being or pretending to be incompetent


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Jbird22

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Quote from: runngun on March 22, 2025, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on March 22, 2025, 07:44:20 AMMS could come up with an easy solution then BB,

Only those who draw the dates for the WMA can be on said WMA. Honestly I'd like that better myself I think.

I think ALOT of you are mixing this up with someone on an open National forest etc etc.


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I think that is exactly what they have done. Since the violator is a NON RESIDENT, it's draw only for NON RESIDENT for the 1st two weeks of the season in Mississippi

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Partially true..Non-residents have to apply for WMAs same as me (resident). The only difference being they have to apply for a general Natl Forest permit whereas I do not. I'd have to be licensed to accompany another hunter on a draw hunt just the same as a non-resident would.

Dtrkyman

They just said the fine was over $900 pretty steep compared to most tickets I've ever heard of.

Definitely a cash grab!


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sasquatch1

I think the YouTubers grab more cash from the resource than the MDWFP


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Shiloh

They did all that they could do.  They owned it and were honest about it.  If they hadn't they would have been crucified for hiding it.  People that don't like them will continue to not like them no matter what and people that do like them will defend them no matter what.  In the meantime, we have run up 8 pages on social media mainly complaining about the damages of social media.  Sometimes I can't figure out us hunters! 

deerhunt1988

Quote from: sasquatch1 on March 31, 2025, 12:00:30 PMI think the YouTubers grab more cash from the resource than the MDWFP


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Yup. Remember when non residents could hunt Mississipi public land in March without drawing? Hard to put a price on that.

deerhunt1988

Fun fact: MDWFP doesn't receive any of the ticket money. It all goes to the county.

arkrem870

Cheaper than a lease......hmmm. For those of us that can't draw paying the ticket if caught might be the thing to do.
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