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Started by Greg Massey, March 18, 2025, 11:13:55 AM

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Quote from: GobbleNut on March 18, 2025, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: Guskie on March 18, 2025, 09:43:52 PMGN - that is how it is stated in the "Frequently Asked Questions" page. I hope it more clearly defined in state code.

I suspect that it is...and is probably pretty clear in the regs, as well. I only pointed it out because I have seen some pretty badly worded regulations over the years from agencies that should have known better.  :)
Bear in mind these regulations are usually laws written by state legislatures.  And all the committee changes and additions that go with them. The enforcing agencies don't always have a say in them.
Love to hunt the King of Spring!

eggshell

Here in Ohio, the wildlife agency writes the rules/laws. They fall under a revised state code but the specific rule changes are promulgated by the wildlife agency and then adopted into law after our wildlife council approves them. I have no idea how other states do it, but here the legislatures have no part in writing wildlife laws.

sasquatch1

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Quote from: Mossyguy on March 23, 2025, 10:10:12 AM[quote author=GobbleNut link=msg=1217531 date=1742734136

I would go before the "judge" in the case and say "Your honor, I thought the regulation meant that I only had to have a "license" of some sort to verify my identity. 

I'd say you'd have a pretty good argument..it's all there in black and white
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Id say the judge would look at you like a moron playing games. That's the problem with the world, even the normal people like to play dumb, and there's a ton of lawyers standing ny to defend the stupidity.

Then later, we complain when laws are wrote up in lawyer language.

Mossyguy

Quote from: sasquatch1 on March 24, 2025, 08:41:29 AM
Quote from: Mossyguy on March 23, 2025, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut link=msg=url="tel:1217531"]1217531[/url] date=1742734136




Id say the judge would look at you like a moron playing games. That's the problem with the world, even the normal people like to play dumb, and there's a ton of lawyers standing ny to defend the stupidity.

If I were the judge I'd definitely look at the individual like a moron...but you never know..lol

NCL

I actually saw a court order today where the judge responded to the attorney "do you think I am an idiot". I do not think I would want to try that defense in court in case the judge was having a bad day as it might not go to well.

deerhunt1988

"But Your Honor, the internet told me this was a good defense!"  :TooFunny:

Dtrkyman

The judge is not "judging" anyone, he is judging the law, well he is supposed to anyway!

sasquatch1

The law, found under hunting regulations for a specific species draw hunt, should be EASILY understood to mean a license to hunt that species.

It's a damn shame so many people in the world truly enjoy and take pride in being or pretending to be incompetent


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Jbird22

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Quote from: runngun on March 22, 2025, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on March 22, 2025, 07:44:20 AMMS could come up with an easy solution then BB,

Only those who draw the dates for the WMA can be on said WMA. Honestly I'd like that better myself I think.

I think ALOT of you are mixing this up with someone on an open National forest etc etc.


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I think that is exactly what they have done. Since the violator is a NON RESIDENT, it's draw only for NON RESIDENT for the 1st two weeks of the season in Mississippi

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Partially true..Non-residents have to apply for WMAs same as me (resident). The only difference being they have to apply for a general Natl Forest permit whereas I do not. I'd have to be licensed to accompany another hunter on a draw hunt just the same as a non-resident would.