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THP / Fine / Warden

Started by Greg Massey, March 18, 2025, 11:13:55 AM

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sasquatch1

Quote from: deerhunt1988 on March 31, 2025, 02:35:42 PM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on March 31, 2025, 12:00:30 PMI think the YouTubers grab more cash from the resource than the MDWF


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Yup. Remember when non residents could hunt Mississipi public land in March without drawing? Hard to put a price on that.

Yes I remember, and can put a price on it this year. My limit of 3 birds this year cost me $1133.00 per piece in leases to ensure I had ample ground to hunt.

WV Flopper

I unsuccessfully applied for a NF early entry permit in Mississippi this year. I was VERY disappointed that Mississippi waited until March 4th to notify me of my loserness! When the season opened on the 15th.

While applying, I read the regs to the best of my understanding for Mississippi.

THP or anyone else filming a hunt needs a license (Participating in a hunt). Just the same as an adult with a youth.

You are reading this in the turkey regulations. It is IMPLIED to be a turkey license. That you can buy at anytime, wether drawn or not!

You, as a nonres can pay 20K to try and beat this ticket if you wish, because I feel your going to need a very talented lawyer. Or, pay the 500$ fine, lick your wounds and do better at reading comprehension. If you go to court in Mississippi for this, you will lose.

Again, you don't need a permit to buy a license. You need a permit for NF early entry and or WMA quota hunts. Two separate items.

WMA and NF are, as in most states, treated as different properties. Typically they are. One is US owned, one is state owned. The state can control a lot more on the WMA than the NF lands. They can and do impose their own regulations on a WMA.

Lcmacd 58

Ive done some asking around here in Illinois. Under the stated circumstances the person running the camera would need a hunting license but not a turkey permit here in Illinois.

arkrem870

Nearly all of Mississippi wmas are National Forest lands.
LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS

High plains drifter

I wonder what kind of money those video guys make?

Old Timer

The fine was over 900 bucks! A little excessive I would think.Ouch wont do that again.

Penguin907

So now you need a license to video tape stuff in the woods. I tHoUgHt ThIs WuZ aMeRiCa

GobbleNut

Quote from: Old Timer on April 01, 2025, 10:50:33 AMThe fine was over 900 bucks! A little excessive I would think.Ouch wont do that again.

Seems a bit much to me, as well.  I think they (whoever "they" is/are) were using the THP guys as the poster boys on this and hit them hard as a warning about the rule and how it will be enforced. I think "they" figured the well-known YouTube clan could take the hit without worrying about the amount.

Problem is, now they have set the price on the fine and the "poor dudes" who hunt (and may also overlook the rule) are gonna get clobbered by this fine amount. Not saying it is right or wrong. ...But I will say that I don't think we have heard the last of this. ...We'll see...

joey46

#128
Yes _ heaven help grandpa taking a picture of his grandson's first hunt.  This now almost sounds like a setup.  If MS intent is to discourage non-res they have succeeded.  Plenty of other states have the Eastern sub-species.

I'm in for $25 on their Go Fund Me page.

bbcoach

Quote from: arkrem870 on March 31, 2025, 10:38:04 PMNearly all of Mississippi wmas are National Forest lands.
This is to a DEGREE what I was saying in my spin off thread asking about WMA's.  Most are saying they are STATE owned!  How can the STATE say they own FEDERAL land???  And how can they convert them to WMAs, since they are Federal PUBLIC property?  Who is allowing this to happen?  It seems Mississippi is selling you guys a load of Goods, if this in fact true.   

joey46

There is no real difference. Simply a revenue enhancement scheme brought on by resident whining.

arkrem870

Think I'm going to swamp every duck boat with Mississippi tags this year in the refuge for pay back. They flock to Arkansas by the thousands and then they piss on us in return. They don't know what pressure is until they come hunt my states public green timber for mallards.
LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS

bbcoach

Quote from: mountainhunter1 on April 01, 2025, 01:17:27 PMWhether in the spring or in the fall during deer or turkey season, it is a regular thing to see NON HUNTERS (Family or friends, etc.) flock to the scene on public right after the kill to celebrate after a person kills their first or maybe their all time best, etc. This being true, it would seem that a lot of folks may be getting a ticket in similar fashion going forward in certain states.

I am all for laws, but let's set this matter aside for a moment. I personally think a person should be able to go and watch a hunt or something if they are not calling for them, etc. and not be required to have a license to do so. Maybe a grandfather wants to go sit with his grandson, and maybe said grandfather has not ever even killed a turkey personally in his whole life. Maybe a hunter is disabled, and a person goes with them just to be sure they make it back to the truck and maybe that person tagging along is not even a hunter in any form or fashion.

They let hikers, nature lovers and campers run all over the place on the same lands with no license - so what is the difference?

There is no real difference. Simply a revenue enhancement scheme brought on by resident whining.
I know many of you are glad to see THP and other internet posters getting their JUST rewards, but I believe many STATES are infringing on OUR 250 year old plus 1st Amendment Rights with their Rules.  Anybody should be allowed to film in public without being harassed or ticketed PERIOD.  No gun, No ammo just a video camera does not constitute Hunting IMO.  If this stands, NO ONE in the woods with a cell phone is SAFE with this law.  With this law in place, STATES are infringing on everyone's RIGHTS and are picking your wallet clean.

Treerooster

Quote from: joey46 on April 01, 2025, 01:06:44 PMYes _ heaven help grandpa taking a picture of his grandson's first hunt.  This now almost sounds like a setup.  If MS intent is to discourage non-res they have succeeded.  Plenty of other states have the Eastern sub-species.

I'm in for $25 on their Go Fund Me page.

Looks like Mississippi is coming out with a turkey stamp next year. $10 for res and $100 for non-res. Wow.

https://magnoliatribune.com/2025/03/26/wild-turkey-stamp-signed-into-law/

sasquatch1

Quote from: joey46 on April 01, 2025, 01:06:44 PMYes _ heaven help grandpa taking a picture of his grandson's first hunt.  This now almost sounds like a setup.  If MS intent is to discourage non-res they have succeeded.  Plenty of other states have the Eastern sub-species.

I'm in for $25 on their Go Fund Me page.

With what sounds to be a reference to a youth hunter, grandpa would already need to be licensed. A youth has to accompanied by a licensed adult to hunt.

Also, if by discouraged you mean having double the applicants than just 3 years ago, yes they have succeeded

But Ik Ik, you meant grandpa just tagging along with licensed dad and son as just the third wheel. Which also is all taking place on a WMA draw hunt.