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I was wondering how some of you guys would deal with this infuriating situation? Starting with opening day I get to the gate several hours early to "secure" a spot that I wanted to hunt. This is a very small piece of public but there are several other areas to park and hunt. Three younger guys in two separate vehicles park right behind me and ask where I'm going. I explain where I'm going and to make a long story short they end up on top of me, hooting, crowing, and gobble tubing up a storm. Fast forward to today and the fifth time at least two of the same guys come screaming in the gravel road right at peak gobble time, I'm standing close to the gate trying to listen, and dumb and dumber come fumbling out of truck talking and laughing like they are at a bar, fumbling around with their guns. The same scenario, ask where I'm going and they say "oh we are going on the other side over here". I explain it's not a big area, very small, and we would be hunting the same birds and that it was dangerous etc. "Oh we want bother you we are just going over here" they say. Infuriated for like the fifth time. I work my way to where I said I was going and low and behold not 100 yds away, hooting, crowing, gobble tube. I'm sitting quietly close to the boundary line and here come dumb and dumber walking straight towards me down the fire break, I get up approach the idiots and say " I thought y'all said you were going the other way and would not bother me" in an aggravated tone, "Oh we didn't know you were going to be back here" they say and continue to walk thru me and call about 50 yds away. I thought seriously about squaring up on these fools but I didn't want to end up in jail or unable to hunt anymore. This is repeated disrespect at the highest level and I'm about to lose my mind. I'm not one to bow out and give up. Just curious as to some of y'all would handle this without ending up with an assault charge?

I would find another place to hunt.

Have you heard any gobbling (real)

Yea I've thought about that a lot but It's one of the very few places I can hunt that has birds occasionally. I feel like that would just be giving in and letting the little pos have their way. Just for context, one has a mullet with the sides of his head shaved and the other was wearing a black pullover with tan colored jeans, turkey hunting, smh. I feel like these are the ppl that would accidentally shoot somebody.

5th time? I'd have gone to another spot after the first.


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Quote from: guesswho on April 06, 2021, 06:37:25 PM
Have you heard any gobbling (real)

Yes, I actually bagged one opening weekend and have had good luck in the past. The birds come off a private hardwood tract and sometimes you have to wait them out.

I might sleep in and wait for those jag-offs to leave, then hunt the place later in the morning.  They have made it clear that they have no manners.  It's only gonna piss you off more and more trying to compete with those losers.

I would move to another spot after the first time. You should always have a plan B. These two will tire of the game quickly once they realize you are not there.

Be much as adumb*** as them. Take a box of target loads, wait until prime time then start walking near them shooting into the air.  All the while singing, "this land is your land, this land is my land....". Yep, I bow to no man either, or kid!

I would show up after they were already there and slam my door, load my gun and slam the bolt shut, start talking to myself in a loud voice, blow owl, crow, and hawk calls constantly and then if I saw them I would ask in a real loud voice if they heard anything. I would then yell, which way you guys goin'? I'll go the other way. I'd gladly give up an hour of my hunting day for that.

Quote from: Jimspur on April 06, 2021, 07:03:31 PM
I would show up after they were already there and slam my door, load my gun and slam the bolt shut, start talking to myself in a loud voice, blow owl, crow, and hawk calls constantly and then if I saw them I would ask in a real loud voice if they heard anything. I would then yell, which way you guys goin'? I'll go the other way. I'd gladly give up an hour of my hunting day for that.

I like your style!

BB under the valve cap X4  and find a new place to hunt.

Quote from: TonyTurk on April 06, 2021, 06:48:18 PM
I might sleep in and wait for those jag-offs to leave, then hunt the place later in the morning.  They have made it clear that they have no manners.  It's only gonna piss you off more and more trying to compete with those losers.

Yep.  Good idea.  And when you kill one there, make sure you leave "evidence" for them to find. 

I'd be gone long before it got to the point where I thought about "squaring up".

Quote from: Wvdanimal on April 06, 2021, 07:01:56 PM
Be much as adumb*** as them. Take a box of target loads, wait until prime time then start walking near them shooting into the air.  All the while singing, "this land is your land, this land is my land....". Yep, I bow to no man either, or kid!

Haha! I love it!

I came up on a couple trucks in the spot I wanted to hunt, plan B, seen no tire tracks heading for plan B, had I'm killed in 15 mins.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/84168151c841602f0d96615cb6471d09.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/66973590aa297bcfb83de599cfd3d3ae.jpg)

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By the way, I had a bird 200 yards away from me this morning gobbling at daylight, trying to set up on him, truck came hauling  in , game over. That what you deal with on public land.

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Quote from: TerryLNanny on April 06, 2021, 09:25:54 PM
I came up on a couple trucks in the spot I wanted to hunt, plan B, seen no tire tracks heading for plan B, had I'm killed in 15 mins.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/84168151c841602f0d96615cb6471d09.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/66973590aa297bcfb83de599cfd3d3ae.jpg)

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Nice! That's awesome, Great Job! These idiots I speak of come in on top of me after me being at the gate first, well before anyone else. I have had other ppl pull up and turn around and go elsewhere, like respectful hunters. I have never once in my life pulled in behind another vehicle that was there before me, Ya snooze ya lose.  I feel like if I were to crank up and leave after they pull in Right behind my truck then that would be inviting the disrespectful behavior. I appreciate the feedback from everyone taking time to reply.

Don't waste year season fighting these guys, the turkeys have probably been educated, go find another place.

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I generally hunt hard to access spots so that tends to separate me from the public on public land. If I ran across those types I'd just move on. Idiots like that aren't worth landing in jail and if everyone is holding guns things might get real ugly.

Got no problem getting face to face with stupid people,  made a really good living at it actually.  However,  nobody showed me the ropes to this turkey game. What if t h ese guys are just stupid newbies striving to get to your level. Tuff spot to be in but it "is" their's as much as yours. Patience and  experience may prevail...

You're hunting spot has been compromised, I've had it happen multiple times, it's part of hunting public land.

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I'm with Gooserbat, but I use my trusty valve stem remover, twice.

Leave them in the woods, go to your truck, let the air out of 2 of their tires, and go to another place.

Sent from deep in the woods where the critters roam.

Quote from: Gooserbat on April 06, 2021, 07:59:33 PM
BB under the valve cap X4  and find a new place to hunt.

Exactly what I was thinking!!! I went with 2, not 4. Guess I'm not as mean as you!!!

Sent from deep in the woods where the critters roam.

When I hunt public land, I always scout hard to get to spots where the Walking Wally's aren't. Going the extra mile, or 3, generally leaves the idiots behind. That's when I use my STAV. "Stealth Turkey Attack Vehicle". This is a picture of me, my STAV, and a limb hanger Osceola that I biked in 3 miles on a heavily pressured FLA WMA to find unpressured birds. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/853cb81db2c59c8f1dfb961ae297e5c1.jpg)

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I know your frustrated... ive been there,  and refuse to allow myself get into these situations anymore

Getting early to a public spot to try and reserve a spot , is more easily translated into YOU KNOW YOUR GOING TO GET MESSED WITH  , there are spots here in Florida,  I avoid like the plauge and yet other guys frequent them , some have been SHOT by other hunters thats how bad they are ...like mentioned before ..mountain bikes ..ive gone 4 miles each way ...canoe hours of rowing its a PIA but you will get on more birds and kill.way more

Size up the situation? Avoid "low hanging fruit situations " those easy to get to spots ... also ill point out if its readily available to hunt for the public ...the birds are also killed off,  or well educated ...either way if you hunt spots like this EASY ACCESS spots that are PUBLIC ...do not be surprised when the competition shows up , in fact in my home state of Florida,  if you hunt any public non quota area that does not require a 1+ hour walk  and some yahoo doesn't ruin your hunt its a miracle......if you actually heard a bird gobble a even bigger miracle,  and if a Gobbler actually came into shot gun range ....a act of divine intervention

The turkeys are easy its the people that are the problem  i adopted this mantra 30 years ago.... if other people know about a spot , its easy to access ...I DONT HUNT IT ,  start targeting the most inaccessible,  difficult to get to , and remote spots you or any hunter can access ...thats where the relaxing easy going hunts are at , the spots that haven't been picked over , killed off etc..

I feel your pain. Been hunting public land for many years. I've about seen it all & could probably write a book on it. I meet some pure jerks but I have also met & become friends with some good people. It's got to the point that nothing really surprises me anymore what some idiots will do. Best thing is just move on & find another spot.

I dont agree with what these azz clowns are doing and also their lack of ettiquet but wether you agree or not and no matter if you like it or not , in the end it is public. Go elsewhere or rathole money through the year to lease some private. It sucks but thats the world we now live in. I am waiting to see their youtube video.

Who knows, they may be on another forum cussing you.


Now, no way that I could do this, but you might ask if they would like to learn how to actually hunt, they might have no clue what they are trying to do.

   I personally  think those 2 are enjoying the " Game". I think they are doing this on purpose...
    They have stepped up the " Game" from what they do on the internet.  Some People hover like Turkey Vultures and when they spot a new Thread that they dont like or agree with-- they attack the Author after Quoting  him.
    Now they wait 15 minutes for the infuriated  Author to respond and Quote him again. Another guy now joins in and it is 2 on 1 and the " Game" continues with endless Quotes.
    Is it really hard to believe  that some Fools will take this to the next Level and continue " the Game" in person.
    It is probably  on the rare side- but , I  think that is what these 2 young guys are doing-- playing a game..
   To continue  the Game- they need the same participant.
    FIND ANOTHER SPOT AWAY FROM THESE YOUNG FOOLS.

Quote from: Old Gobbler on April 06, 2021, 10:57:43 PM
I know your frustrated... ive been there,  and refuse to allow myself get into these situations anymore

Getting early to a public spot to try and reserve a spot , is more easily translated into YOU KNOW YOUR GOING TO GET MESSED WITH  , there are spots here in Florida,  I avoid like the plauge and yet other guys frequent them , some have been SHOT by other hunters thats how bad they are ...like mentioned before ..mountain bikes ..ive gone 4 miles each way ...canoe hours of rowing its a PIA but you will get on more birds and kill.way more

Size up the situation? Avoid "low hanging fruit situations " those easy to get to spots ... also ill point out if its readily available to hunt for the public ...the birds are also killed off,  or well educated ...either way if you hunt spots like this EASY ACCESS spots that are PUBLIC ...do not be surprised when the competition shows up , in fact in my home state of Florida,  if you hunt any public non quota area that does not require a 1+ hour walk  and some yahoo doesn't ruin your hunt its a miracle......if you actually heard a bird gobble a even bigger miracle,  and if a Gobbler actually came into shot gun range ....a act of divine intervention

The turkeys are easy its the people that are the problem  i adopted this mantra 30 years ago.... if other people know about a spot , its easy to access ...I DONT HUNT IT ,  start targeting the most inaccessible,  difficult to get to , and remote spots you or any hunter can access ...thats where the relaxing easy going hunts are at , the spots that haven't been picked over , killed off etc..

This. But electric bikes are making it harder and harder.

These lazy idiots now just buy E bikes


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Quote from: Brian Fahs on April 06, 2021, 06:29:05 PM
I would find another place to hunt.

X2


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They went to the u tool school of hunting .


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I would have taught them some manners and then I would have found another place to hunt.  THIS is why I NEVER hunt public land.  Too many fools.

Quote from: TerryLNanny on April 06, 2021, 09:25:54 PM
I came up on a couple trucks in the spot I wanted to hunt, plan B, seen no tire tracks heading for plan B, had I'm killed in 15 mins.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/84168151c841602f0d96615cb6471d09.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/66973590aa297bcfb83de599cfd3d3ae.jpg)

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Nice bird, great gun too.... :turkey2:

Quote from: TonyTurk on April 06, 2021, 06:48:18 PM
I might sleep in and wait for those jag-offs to leave, then hunt the place later in the morning.  They have made it clear that they have no manners.  It's only gonna piss you off more and more trying to compete with those losers.

Ask them if you can have a moment to pray with them....then pray,  you hope they survive when someone shoots them and that they are cured of their stupidity.

I would just have moved on the second day. The only option for that spot is like someone else said, hunt it later in the day. Those young idiots are gone by late morning most likely. Also, call  the game warden and explain they are being unsafe and maybe he can cruise by and do a license check and talk to them. Many officers will do this if you ask, especially if they think it could  be a safety issue.

Never a bad idea to have a couple of rusty roofing nails and ball peen hammer in the glove box, then place them strategically where the sidewall and tread meet.  Those roofing nails get stuck in tires all the time, what do ya do?

Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 07, 2021, 07:47:41 AM
Never a bad idea to have a couple of rusty roofing nails and ball peen hammer in the glove box, then place them strategically where the sidewall and tread meet.  Those roofing nails get stuck in tires all the time, what do ya do?

Some pretty vindictive suggestions on here. Wanting private and exclusive access to public land is unreasonable. I wander public land all year and there are miles and miles of land where you never see anyone and if you do they are normally just passing through. Parking at a trail head invites company. Normally it is not illegal to park on the roadside side elsewhere.

Putting BB's or slashing tires puts you on their level which is both illegal and iggnorant and invites payback and overall gives our sport a bad name.

I would suggest focusing on the sport not other participants. I find Turkey hunting a great release from stress. Can not imagine allowing anyone to take the enjoyment out of my hunting. Go elsewhere, explore during the off season, find several out of the way places to hunt and remain calm. Disconnect you will be much happier for it.

I like to think that most of the revenge tactics mentioned on here are just forum bluster.

Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 07, 2021, 07:47:41 AM
Never a bad idea to have a couple of rusty roofing nails and ball peen hammer in the glove box, then place them strategically where the sidewall and tread meet.  Those roofing nails get stuck in tires all the time, what do ya do?

What I said was merely a joke, lets not read to much into it.  My luck would be I would stab my finger reaching for the rusty nail and my tetanus shot wouldn't be up to date.  Realistically find another spot or wait until later in the season to hunt that spot once those two throw in the towel.  Only the diehards will hunt until the last hour on the last day.

I'd move on, they know what they're doing it ain't worth the hassle or the headache. I've dealt with folks like this before a few times they aren't doing this because they don't know what's up. They are deliberately disrupting you're hunt in an effort to "claim the spot" like dogs peeing on bushes. They likely have more time and less money than you so move on it will not geylt better, they will not stop and they ain't going someplace else.


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Quote from: Gooserbat on April 06, 2021, 07:59:33 PM
BB under the valve cap X4  and find a new place to hunt.

Exactly and that would've been after the 2nd time they acted a fool.

Those kinds of folks are only in for the killing and not the hunting piece of it. Best to just move on and leave those idiots to themselves.

That's what they want
BBC's under valve cap is the best thing for them
All 4. Spare to if it's easy to get to

+1 on the OG's post above. With the way public land is going (especially in the south) people are going to start getting shot... and not by accident.  More crowded, more conflicts,  It will only get worse every year.
Just read these "public land" post on this forum.. we almost need a seperate section just dedicated to this.

Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 06, 2021, 11:28:26 PM
I dont agree with what these azz clowns are doing and also their lack of ettiquet but wether you agree or not and no matter if you like it or not , in the end it is public. Go elsewhere or rathole money through the year to lease some private. It sucks but thats the world we now live in. I am waiting to see their youtube video.

This is what I do, I join a large deer club just so I can hunt the turkeys. Thankfully 95% of the members don't hunt turkeys.

Doesn't sound like these particular pilgrims will be doing any damage to the gobbler population.
Give the spot a week break to let them clear out , then go back and get after the goons have moved on to another area .  The gobblers will still be there .
Ps , no sense in getting into a argument with the pilgrims .  No good outcome from that IMO .

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Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 06, 2021, 11:28:26 PM
I dont agree with what these azz clowns are doing and also their lack of ettiquet but wether you agree or not and no matter if you like it or not , in the end it is public. Go elsewhere or rathole money through the year to lease some private. It sucks but thats the world we now live in. I am waiting to see their youtube video.

This is what I do, I join a large deer club just so I can hunt the turkeys. Thankfully 95% of the members don't hunt turkeys.

^^^
Same here

Quote from: Snood Life on April 07, 2021, 11:50:55 AM

Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 06, 2021, 11:28:26 PM
I dont agree with what these azz clowns are doing and also their lack of ettiquet but wether you agree or not and no matter if you like it or not , in the end it is public. Go elsewhere or rathole money through the year to lease some private. It sucks but thats the world we now live in. I am waiting to see their youtube video.

This is what I do, I join a large deer club just so I can hunt the turkeys. Thankfully 95% of the members don't hunt turkeys.

I hunt a lease as well but last year with COVID everybody that had never hunted turkeys before and plenty of time off were in the woods.  I had a clown that came in 3 days straight, AFTER SUNRISE and drive past me on a dead end road, turn around and drive right back out.  I had parked on the road about a mile away, all 3 days, and walked into the setup.  Finally on the third day, I confronted him after he came in and parked less than 50 yards from me, got out grabbed decoys and decided he was going to hunt right where I was concealed AFTER SUNRISE again!  I approached him and scared him half to death.  He apologized and said, I've never hunted turkeys before.  I told him he needed to honor vehicles already parked, don't come in late (after sunrise) and don't drive to within 50 yards of where you plan to hunt, make a bunch of noise and expect to see any birds.  I told him you have to scout before the season and put in some boot leather time (walk to your setup), if you plan on seeing birds.  It's not just on PUBLIC land Guys.  Hopefully these guys will be back to WORK this spring and not ruin hunts for others.

I'd reverse roles and do the same to them, let them lead stay back about 100 yards or so hooting and hollering and see how they like it.

Dog will hunt, dog will hunt.

I had some poor excuses for hunters this past winter in Arizona on a deer hunt, after passing three spots I usually park due to other vehicles i found a spot with nobody there.

Hunted for the evening and came out to find a complete camp set up right next to my truck and 6 guys preparing to hunt for a few days, they were pleasant enough and seemed to have no clue what they did, I should have gave em what for but just decided to leave, wasn't my primary spot.

A few days later I get to my primary spot and head out, hunt till mid day and after seeing guys all over decided to bail on that area, get to the truck and 3 others parked in the same spot.

I have hunted public a lot over the years and have to say most encounters are good, the bad ones just stand out!

I wont hunt around clowns like that. Search out a new area or hunt at times when they aren't there. My Dad, brother, and I had some clowns like that a few years ago. We were there first. Three of us mind you. These guys parked right beside us at daylight. My Dad and I decided to leave and not put up with this junk. My brother Jesse however, wanted to stay and hunt. Thought the fist fight was going to be between bro and my Dad. Lol

Quote from: warrent423 on April 07, 2021, 08:47:21 PM
They would have been warned the first time. Second time I would have walked back to their trucks and lit them on fire and then gladly been bailed out of jail later that day. Do this a few times and you would be amazed at how that reputation follows you. No more problems from the ignorant. ;) Not afraid of confrontation one bit, when dealing with idiots. I'm stupid like that.

Probably unemployed as well LOL!

Meh, it's public land they have just as much right to be out there as you do. I don't get upset about anything like that, I guess I get irritated but don't get upset enough to give it very much thought anymore. Who cares.

Also, you say you wanted to "square up" to these dudes, well probably good you didn't, not because you would go to jail but because you'd probably be drinking through a straw for a while. And for everyone that says they would take. Vengeance on these dudes, shame on you, be an adult, what's the big deal? Keep hunting or go somewhere else no biggie.

Quote from: CodyF on April 07, 2021, 09:47:46 PM
Meh, it's public land they have just as much right to be out there as you do. I don't get upset about anything like that, I guess I get irritated but don't get upset enough to give it very much thought anymore. Who cares.

Also, you say you wanted to "square up" to these dudes, well probably good you didn't, not because you would go to jail but because you'd probably be drinking through a straw for a while. And for everyone that says they would take. Vengeance on these dudes, shame on you, be an adult, what's the big deal? Keep hunting or go somewhere else no biggie.

Haha, wouldn't be my first rodeo. Yea lets be adults and not have to park on top of somebody on a dead end road gate with less than 40 acres in the area, have courtesy and respect for whoever is there first, and have the common sense to go somewhere else if they are already there and made it clear where they are going. It's ok though, when it happens again let's just say they will have an interesting hunt. Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't always make it the right thing to do.

Quote from: CodyF on April 07, 2021, 09:47:46 PM
Meh, it's public land they have just as much right to be out there as you do. I don't get upset about anything like that, I guess I get irritated but don't get upset enough to give it very much thought anymore. Who cares.

Also, you say you wanted to "square up" to these dudes, well probably good you didn't, not because you would go to jail but because you'd probably be drinking through a straw for a while. And for everyone that says they would take. Vengeance on these dudes, shame on you, be an adult, what's the big deal? Keep hunting or go somewhere else no biggie.

The problem is people like them bank on the good guys always giving in.

It's why is good guys are slowly losing our rights! The low down ppl have the loudest voices and the least to lose and we hand it right over day in and day out because it's "just not worth it"

If our forefathers did only what was best for themselves at the time we'd all be British. Thank god they understood that they may lose their life but they'd preserve freedom for their offspring and others for centuries.


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A lot of states have hunter harassment laws. This should qualify, although it was meant for anti- hunters it still applies to all harassment. I still would call the game warden and be sure bring up the safety and harassment issues. If he seems reluctant to help,  tell him your documenting everything and when something happens he will be on record as told. Most of these punks want no part of any law enforcement, it's a good chance they have drugs in the car.

Some people are really just dumb. Sounds like this is your problem.
So far they didnot seam to be disrespectful. I would either move along or maybe you can school them a little maybe you can actually work with there stupidity. Anyway you can make a plan with them as to not disturb each other. If they are just POS then there is no hope. But by them saying we will just be over here we won't bother you there may be some hope. Maybe ask how long they have been hunting turkeys. Maybe you can advise what not to do. Some people are just knitwhits.

Got to love a internet tuff guy!!!

Good Lord, I'd find a new spot or take a week off and hunt a different state

Quote from: JMalin on April 08, 2021, 01:32:45 PM
Good Lord, I'd find a new spot or take a week off and hunt a different state

Agreed; plus we have beat this subject to death! :OGturkeyhead: