This is Why You Remove State Names from YouTube Videos!!!!!!!

[El Pavo Grande]

Spread the wealth attitude.... Socialism creeping into hunting.

That is about the stupidest thing I've ever read on here. That's as American as it gets, Public land. Go to a socialist country and do you some public land hunting. Sounds like you'd rather have it all to yourself.

Not at all.  Trying to preserve what we have.  Trying to help eliminate more reductions in hunter opportunity.  Think outside the box....if you can.  Or you can continue with your head in the sand if you choose.

So, do you agree with sharing specifics on social media?  What are the positives of sharing specific information?

Pretty sure where I know your head is buried. Twist it around till you get the answer you want so you can type another essay. Nothing new about folks bragging on kills and others worrying over where they killed it. Besides, it's really none of your business what they do as long as it's legal.

Oh, OK.  Quite a stretch to say I'm twisting it around.  How do you figure that?  What answer do I want?  It's a simple, black and white question.   Avoiding to answer the question, that's deflecting.  I'll repeat it again in case you overlooked it..... on my message you quoted.  What are positives of sharing specific information for millions to access?  Do you agree with sharing specific information on social media?  Simple, yes or no answer to this one.  Waiting.....

[WV Flopper]

 If you guys hunt as hard as you gripe you must kill hundreds of Turkeys. But, I doubt you do!

Eggshell, who would be so dumb to name their spot? I was smarter than that when I was a tike. I guess a lot of these guys think everything they read is 100% correct and factual.

I still have no problem with you tubers naming a state. Thanks you tubers, love some of the vids. Would love to hear the correct back story on the one vid I seen with the gate number shot! 

[El Pavo Grande]

If you guys hunt as hard as you gripe you must kill hundreds of Turkeys. But, I doubt you do!

Eggshell, who would be so dumb to name their spot? I was smarter than that when I was a tike. I guess a lot of these guys think everything they read is 100% correct and factual.

I still have no problem with you tubers naming a state. Thanks you tubers, love some of the vids. Would love to hear the correct back story on the one vid I seen with the gate number shot!

I was waiting on the usual measuring contest of killing turkeys to be brought into this.  Typical.  Once again what you see as griping, many see as voicing legitimate concerns.   

[Paulmyr]

I'll probably drop out of this discussion since it's  become rather repetitive and boring.  Myself and a buddy have long been thinking of a trip out west for a Merriam.  I have the latest National Forest maps, watched multiple you tube videos, and PMed hunters on several forums.  You Tuber's videos are just a part of today's scouting process.  If we don't make the western trip we may run up to Kentucky since  he's never shot an Eastern (south Florida boy - only shot Osceolas).  I have KY experience from having lived there nine years and hunted the state for many years prior.  We'll use the information available from KY's excellent telecheck  system before making any final decision on specific areas.  Computers,  satellite views, GPS units, and mapping apps are much more valuable tools than YouTubers IMO.  Time to enter the 21st century and not worry about who said what on YouTube.  It won't matter anyway.  YouTube and cyber hunters are here to stay.  Use them, work around them, or whine about them - you're choice.

Not being argumentative, but this illustrates what I have said about having apathy.   No denying it's here to stay.  But, is there not a point that some need to be held accountable?  Or do we just shrug our shoulders and accept the fact that the exploitation by a few has created some negatives? Not asking or expecting them to go away.  Just asking to place the resource and other hunters above their own personal gain by changing the content they present.

Curious, do you make all off your own calls? Do you only shoot Turkey's with a bow and arrows you made? Do you make your own camo clothing? If the answer to these is yes, carry on! If the answer is no, by your standards you and 99.9% of hunters are part of the problem by supporting people who exploit public resources for personal gain.

[El Pavo Grande]

I'll probably drop out of this discussion since it's  become rather repetitive and boring.  Myself and a buddy have long been thinking of a trip out west for a Merriam.  I have the latest National Forest maps, watched multiple you tube videos, and PMed hunters on several forums.  You Tuber's videos are just a part of today's scouting process.  If we don't make the western trip we may run up to Kentucky since  he's never shot an Eastern (south Florida boy - only shot Osceolas).  I have KY experience from having lived there nine years and hunted the state for many years prior.  We'll use the information available from KY's excellent telecheck  system before making any final decision on specific areas.  Computers,  satellite views, GPS units, and mapping apps are much more valuable tools than YouTubers IMO.  Time to enter the 21st century and not worry about who said what on YouTube.  It won't matter anyway.  YouTube and cyber hunters are here to stay.  Use them, work around them, or whine about them - you're choice.

Not being argumentative, but this illustrates what I have said about having apathy.   No denying it's here to stay.  But, is there not a point that some need to be held accountable?  Or do we just shrug our shoulders and accept the fact that the exploitation by a few has created some negatives? Not asking or expecting them to go away.  Just asking to place the resource and other hunters above their own personal gain by changing the content they present.

Curious, do you make all off your own calls? Do you only shoot Turkey's with a bow and arrows you made? Do you make your own camo clothing? If the answer to these is yes, carry on! If the answer is no, by your standards you and 99.9% of hunters are part of the problem by supporting people who exploit public resources for personal gain.

Bit of a stretch.

[THattaway]

Again, it's really none of your business what anyone does as long as it's legal. And that includes posting where they kill a turkey.

[Paulmyr]

I'll probably drop out of this discussion since it's  become rather repetitive and boring.  Myself and a buddy have long been thinking of a trip out west for a Merriam.  I have the latest National Forest maps, watched multiple you tube videos, and PMed hunters on several forums.  You Tuber's videos are just a part of today's scouting process.  If we don't make the western trip we may run up to Kentucky since  he's never shot an Eastern (south Florida boy - only shot Osceolas).  I have KY experience from having lived there nine years and hunted the state for many years prior.  We'll use the information available from KY's excellent telecheck  system before making any final decision on specific areas.  Computers,  satellite views, GPS units, and mapping apps are much more valuable tools than YouTubers IMO.  Time to enter the 21st century and not worry about who said what on YouTube.  It won't matter anyway.  YouTube and cyber hunters are here to stay.  Use them, work around them, or whine about them - you're choice.

Not being argumentative, but this illustrates what I have said about having apathy.   No denying it's here to stay.  But, is there not a point that some need to be held accountable?  Or do we just shrug our shoulders and accept the fact that the exploitation by a few has created some negatives? Not asking or expecting them to go away.  Just asking to place the resource and other hunters above their own personal gain by changing the content they present.

Curious, do you make all off your own calls? Do you only shoot Turkey's with a bow and arrows you made? Do you make your own camo clothing? If the answer to these is yes, carry on! If the answer is no, by your standards you and 99.9% of hunters are part of the problem by supporting people who exploit public resources for personal gain.

Bit of a stretch.

Your argument is you don't like YouTube videos because they exploit a public resource for personal gain. Mossy oak doesn't make bottom lands camo to sell to soccer moms. Its used to help kill animals (public resource). Same as your shotgun and your turkey calls. The ultimate goal behind the manufacturing of the product is death of the animal. Thier profits are based on the exploitation of a public resource.

[yelpaholic]

TRying to understand your reason for posting this thread ..

[El Pavo Grande]

Again, it's really none of your business what anyone does as long as it's legal. And that includes posting where they kill a turkey.

"If it's legal" isn't always the most sound argument, in my opinion.  And yes, beyond the state, it really is no ones business where an individual kills a turkey.  A number on a sheet is fine, but individual name seems a bit unnecessary to be accessed on the internet.

[Missed mallards]

Didn't know where to hunt but now I do!

In all honesty greed will be what kills the hunter. With all of this "public" and usable resources, it won't be long before the resources are depleted or states limit hunting in such a way the hunter is no longer existent.

Sucks. You'd think people would electively self govern and not get a pick for social media by just killing or bragging of their location. Not going to happen so those that did self govern now get the shaft. Been that way for years now with the aids of internet it's just a faster demise.


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[UpperTully]

TRying to understand your reason for posting this thread ..

It's easy to understand when you consider one has more of an personal agenda against certain persons rather than a genuine concern.

[El Pavo Grande]

It seems to me that the thread was started to show how easy it can be for "fans", or even non-fans, to watch a video promoting hunting in XYZ State and spend a little effort searching to find where they were hunting.  XYZ county...1 WMA...."oooh jackpot!!"  Sacrifice just a few likes and hearts to not name states.  Folks are already hooked like crack cocaine and won't throw away your t-shirts or hats with some slight, simple adjustments to content. 

[deerhunt1988]

It seems to me that the thread was started to show how easy it can be for "fans", or even non-fans, to watch a video promoting hunting in XYZ State and spend a little effort searching to find where they were hunting.  XYZ county...1 WMA...."oooh jackpot!!"

Exactly.

The one's who don't understand obviously haven't been affected by it or don't travel and hunt enough public land in some of these states to see the damage that has already been done. Joe Blow hunting his back 40 will never understand the implications. If you only hunt your local public lands that haven't been blow up yet, it can be very hard to grasp the situation (and consider yourself fortunate)!

If naming states isn't a big deal like many of the video producers claim, why do they continue to do it? Seems like a good comprise between them and their critics would to be just quit naming. No harm done, right?

[aclawrence]

At the beginning of this thread the author showed everyone how to use the Kentucky website to see who killed what and where. Others have pointed out that you can do this in many states and pointed out other ways to get the info. So it would probably be a little helpful to not name states, but we all know which states these guys hunt in. We can still use the available data to see where they killed the birds at. Especially with the link in the original post.  Honestly I don't what to think about all this.


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[eggshell]

An old timer once told me some wise advice, and this was even before home computers, cell phones and youdumbasstube.

Find at least one new spot to hunt every year, because it's not a matter of if you will lose a spot it's a matter of when. Always be ahead of the game.

So now I'm the old timer and I'm telling ya move on. I had a spot I hunted for 35 years and it was my go to spot in a certain state. Last year when we showed up it was covered with youtube wannabees. Yup the tubers had screwed it up.....lucky me I had just picked up a new farm of 250 acres. Not as many birds, but zero yahoos. The year before we gained another spot and so we wished the crowd goodluck and moved on.

Life's riches go to the prepared