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This is Why You Remove State Names from YouTube Videos!!!!!!!

Started by deerhunt1988, October 01, 2021, 01:41:17 PM

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UpperTully

Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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deerhunt1988

Quote from: joey46 on October 02, 2021, 12:56:49 PM
Public Information is public.  This is now entering the  :deadhorse:

Crazy ain't it?

They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Heck, some states even will sell their license holder's information to 3rd parties. I've had to 'opt out' numerous times when buying licenses in other states.

deerhunt1988

Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

El Pavo Grande

Quote from: joey46 on October 02, 2021, 12:56:49 PM
Public Land is public.  Public Information is public.  This is now entering the  :deadhorse:.  The worry about PETA knowing your identity is :TooFunny:.  So what?  " Joe Smith just shot a turkey in Trigg County - let's get him Martha".  Jeez!  What a stretch.

Spread the wealth attitude.... Socialism creeping into hunting.

No problem with showing harvest #s, but individual names is ridiculous.  It's the state's business right know where I killed a turkey, not you or anyone else. 

UpperTully

Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.
You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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deerhunt1988

Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.
You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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Yes, because me posting state names and pictures of a dead turkey on this forum have the same outreach as a YouTube video that can get 100k views in under a day.



aclawrence

Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.
People who spend hours trying to figure out where so and so hunted are probably not going to kill any turkeys wherever they go. I would think most guys on here who actually call turkeys in and shoot them are not going to sit behind a keyboard and fool with all this bull crap investigation.  You can usually pull up the information for how many birds are killed on what wma, or county, or zone. All you need to see is that there is a turkey population there. It doesn't make any difference who shot them. I understand that if people know so and so went to such and such spot that it will drive more traffic to that area. For the people who are doing that, you need to change your focus.


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deerhunt1988

Quote from: aclawrence on October 02, 2021, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.
People who spend hours trying to figure out where so and so hunted are probably not going to kill any turkeys wherever they go. I would think most guys on here who actually call turkeys in and shoot them are not going to sit behind a keyboard and fool with all this bull crap investigation.  You can usually pull up the information for how many birds are killed on what wma, or county, or zone. All you need to see is that there is a turkey population there. It doesn't make any difference who shot them. I understand that if people know so and so went to such and such spot that it will drive more traffic to that area. For the people who are doing that, you need to change your focus.


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I personally know a few who will spend their downtime at work tracking them down. And the ones I know, are killers. But they aren't going to go hunt where they've tracked them too, they just enjoy the process and are amazed at all the clues some of the videos leave behind. One Tuber has it figured out, he leaves very little evidence or even false evidence. But the others are bad about leaving bread crumb trails. Which can help with views.



aclawrence

Yes some of them have left way too much in past videos. I think they did make more of an effort this last spring after they started getting some blow back.  I think Dave tries hard not to show any clues. But like we were talking about Florida everyone can figure that one out just because of what's available down there.


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UpperTully

Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 02:06:02 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.
You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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Yes, because me posting state names and pictures of a dead turkey on this forum have the same outreach as a YouTube video that can get 100k views in under a day.
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 02:06:02 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: eggshell on October 02, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx
Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.
You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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Yes, because me posting state names and pictures of a dead turkey on this forum have the same outreach as a YouTube video that can get 100k views in under a day.

That's where you're theory is grossly mistaken. Google search yields just as many people, if not more. This forum as with many others gets a ton of lurkers seeking information. Prove me wrong.






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deerhunt1988

Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 03:41:20 PM

That's where you're theory is grossly mistaken. Google search yields just as many people, if not more. This forum as with many others gets a ton of lurkers seeking information. Prove me wrong.



As you wish. Here are OG's top general threads sorted by views. Half or more of the top 10 most viewed threads aren't even turkey hunting related. The top two turkey related ones have 35k and 36k views and both ironically deal with the topic at hand. Hmmm..




Now compare to that to a recent video by THP that got over 100k views in under 24 hours. Or the Kentucky video with nearly a half million views. Or the Florida videos with 100k views. Or the Hawaii video with 100k views.

UpperTully

Quote from: deerhunt1988 on October 02, 2021, 04:02:52 PM
Quote from: UpperTully on October 02, 2021, 03:41:20 PM

That's where you're theory is grossly mistaken. Google search yields just as many people, if not more. This forum as with many others gets a ton of lurkers seeking information. Prove me wrong.



As you wish. Here are OG's top general threads sorted by views. Half or more of the top 10 most viewed threads aren't even turkey hunting related. The top two turkey related ones have 35k and 36k views and both ironically deal with the topic at hand. Hmmm..




Now compare to that to a recent video by THP that got over 100k views in under 24 hours. Or the Kentucky video with nearly a half million views. Or the Florida videos with 100k views. Or the Hawaii video with 100k views.

Log out, then go in and out of this very thread until your heart desires. You will see the number of views doesn't change with the number of times you viewed this thread while logged out.

I just did it 20 times while logged out, the number of views doesn't reflect those 20 views I made of leaving and entering this thread.

Back to my point, you're cherry picking and being hypocritical. You argue it's detrimental to mention public ground on YouTube but justify your own actions of mentioning public ground in other areas of public viewing online, such as this forum. Additionally, Youtubers mention the state for which they're hunting, you're on here blowing out Kentucky WMAs by posting a source for hunters to find the WMA's they were hunting.

None the less it seems you have a personal vendetta and are being more of a Karen than anything with your agenda. 

THattaway

Quote from: El Pavo Grande on October 02, 2021, 01:25:27 PM

Spread the wealth attitude.... Socialism creeping into hunting.

That is about the stupidest thing I've ever read on here. That's as American as it gets, Public land. Go to a socialist country and do you some public land hunting. Sounds like you'd rather have it all to yourself.
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Quote from: guesswho on October 02, 2021, 02:02:45 PM
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