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In a news release last summer the rate hike was justified as a way to raise more money. The cost went up from $190 to $224. I thought $190 was expensive! I am probably not going to Missouri any more after returning to hunt there last year after an absence of about 15 years. I would think there will be more people like me refusing to pay such an exorbitant fee. Just a guess but I'm not sure they will be making much more money off of non resident turkey tags. Seems more like a ploy to keep more non resident hunters out of the state. I think if they were actually serious about raising money a resident tag would cost more than $17. Oh well guess I'll have to get spend my money elsewhere.

How long had it been $190?

Not sure. Last year was first time hunting there In a long while. If I remember correctly back in the early 2000's it was around $175.

Does not sound like a very large leap over the years. Still pricey though.

Ya...then it bumped up to 19x.xx. 100.00 bucks a bird is about going rate for NR. Have you seen IA price?

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Quote from: fallhnt on April 01, 2020, 07:23:33 PM
Ya...then it bumped up to 19x.xx. 100.00 bucks a bird is about going rate for NR. Have you seen IA price?

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No I have not. I have never hunted out of state but if this virus stuff is taken care of I will be next spring in OK

Last year was the first year I got to hunt Missouri. Went to the Northwest part of the state. Good lord willing I will be back there on the 28th. My tags cost 190 last year. 224 is only 30 bucks more and is worth it to me.

These states are getting their money from the residents.  Most residents pay many times the $17 resident license because they are paying property taxes, sales tax, gas tax and the list goes on an on everyday of every year.  You on the other hand are an outsider that only comes to their state once a year.  You spend a little on gas, a little for groceries, maybe a hotel for a few nights and then back to your home state.  In order to enjoy the spoils of another state, we need to realize it isn't getting cheaper to do these things.  If you think $224 is a little steep then try to find another state that is less expensive but realize, you may have to drive further (cost) or fly (cost), find an area to hunt (time and cost) or pay an outfitter (cost) for access and you'll still have to shell out money for groceries and a place to stay.  If you want to play, you have to pay.  Recreation prices are going up, along with everything else. 

A lot of states run about $125 for at least the first tag plus hunting license and conservation stamp (or similar).  The second is typically a little less because you've already bought the other requirements.  If MO is only requiring the $225 to kill two birds it's not out if line with other states. Some states cost more than $125 for the first tag.

MN nr is $96 and res tags are $26. Missouri nr $225 and res tag is $17. My point was if it were really about funding the conservation Dept a res tag might cast more than $17. Not sure but think that's what it cost back in the early 90s

You don't need a license eather,unlike other states. A little easier at Walmart. You just need to let the employee know there are 2 tags coming out of the machine.

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Quote from: bbcoach on April 01, 2020, 07:41:37 PM
These states are getting their money from the residents.  Most residents pay many times the $17 resident license because they are paying property taxes, sales tax, gas tax and the list goes on an on everyday of every year.

You would be paying these fees even if you didn't turkey hunt.

Illinois is $125 for one bird.

NY 120 for 2 birds.

Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 07:44:12 PM
MN nr is $96 and res tags are $26. Missouri nr $225 and res tag is $17. My point was if it were really about funding the conservation Dept a res tag might cast more than $17. Not sure but think that's what it cost back in the early 90s

Their conservation department is funded through a 1/8% sales tax and is one of the best funded in the country.

Was thinking about going to Alabama
Annual :$320.30
10 day: $ 197.85
3 day : $ 139.60

Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 01, 2020, 07:34:34 PM
Last year was the first year I got to hunt Missouri. Went to the Northwest part of the state. Good lord willing I will be back there on the 28th. My tags cost 190 last year. 224 is only 30 bucks more and is worth it to me.

You might want to check the batteries in your calculator ;)

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Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 07:44:12 PM
MN nr is $96 and res tags are $26. Missouri nr $225 and res tag is $17. My point was if it were really about funding the conservation Dept a res tag might cast more than $17. Not sure but think that's what it cost back in the early 90s

Their conservation department is funded through a 1/8% sales tax and is one of the best funded in the country.

It's 1/8 of 1% of Sales tax. For every dollar in sales tax collected, the MDC gets 1/8 of one penny of that dollar collected. Doesn't sound like a lot, but it adds up for sure. They are one of the best funded departments in the country, but top execs including retired directors were being paid handsomely. A misappropriation of tax money for sure.

Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 01, 2020, 07:34:34 PM
Last year was the first year I got to hunt Missouri. Went to the Northwest part of the state. Good lord willing I will be back there on the 28th. My tags cost 190 last year. 224 is only 30 bucks more and is worth it to me.

If I could spend more than maybe 2 weekends hunting there this year I might be able to justify it but not $225 for 4 days. Guess I'll have to try my luck in Wisconsin again this year. $190 just seemed a little more paletteable.

I don't blame them from going up on there NR prices. Missouri was a go to place for a long time, lots of damage has been done there not to mention bad hatch after bad hatch. If you plan on going I don't see why a increase of 30 bucks would stop you.

For the quality of hunt you can have in Missouri I think that is a fair price for 2 birds for now days imo

Yup the hunting is good. I'll just be going to Wisconsin this year to get my fix. alot cheaper and alot closer.  2hr drive instead of 6.

If you have the money to hunt out of state I don't know if there is much to cry about. Some states are expensive, some aren't as bad. I don't think it's up to you how much us residents pay for our license.

Missouri non- resident tags have now tripled since I began going in 1998 for a mere $75- didn't know how good a deal that was back then!!!

Ya'll don't forget that in Missouri you have to have a plug in your gun. I made a $155 donation for just that by a warden with a toupe'. Guess it didn't help I told him what I think about that law and their non migratory turkeys.

Quote from: Missouri hunter on April 01, 2020, 10:04:12 PM
If you have the money to hunt out of state I don't know if there is much to cry about. Some states are expensive, some aren't as bad. I don't think it's up to you how much us residents pay for our license.

Blah, blah, blah.

Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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Quote from: deadbuck on April 01, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
Ya'll don't forget that in Missouri you have to have a plug in your gun. I made a $155 donation for just that by a warden with a toupe'. Guess it didn't help I told him what I think about that law and their non migratory turkeys.

I guess being from MO and not knowing any difference I figured that was a law in every state If you can't kill em with 3 you might want to check your gun.

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Quote from: deadbuck on April 01, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
Ya'll don't forget that in Missouri you have to have a plug in your gun. I made a $155 donation for just that by a warden with a toupe'. Guess it didn't help I told him what I think about that law and their non migratory turkeys.

I guess being from MO and not knowing any difference I figured that was a law in every state If you can't kill em with 3 you might want to check your gun.

Yup....that's all I've ever known too. Snow goose season being the exception.

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I remember when it was $160 then $190 now $224.  It's steep but I live 18 miles from the state line so I'll pay it...howbeit begrudgingly.

Quote from: deadbuck on April 01, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
Ya'll don't forget that in Missouri you have to have a plug in your gun. I made a $155 donation for just that by a warden with a toupe'. Guess it didn't help I told him what I think about that law and their non migratory turkeys.

Doesn't matter anymore...all real turkey hunters now use a Stevens single shot 410.

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Quote from: deadbuck on April 01, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
Ya'll don't forget that in Missouri you have to have a plug in your gun. I made a $155 donation for just that by a warden with a toupe'. Guess it didn't help I told him what I think about that law and their non migratory turkeys.

Doesn't matter anymore...all real turkey hunters now use a Stevens single shot 410.

That's how "Bat stew flu" started. Shipped over in those Chinese guns.

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$34 is the breaking point on an out of state trip? Oh well. If it's too much, I guess not going is the right decision. They're not obligated to make the fees palatable for every single person. If it's too much, don't go, if not, go. I think that's the way it is with pretty much everything in life.


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Quote from: TravisB on April 02, 2020, 05:56:11 AM
$34 is the breaking point on an out of state trip? Oh well. If it's too much, I guess not going is the right decision. They're not obligated to make the fees palatable for every single person. If it's too much, don't go, if not, go. I think that's the way it is with pretty much everything in life.


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So go or no go?

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Hunting  will only continue to increase in cost. The English did the same thing, made Hunting a wealthy mans sport. It did cut down on the unwashed peasants they had to deal with....I'm looking forward to that part lol.

It's that way this year. I can't hunt state owned ground in IL and only NR land owners can hunt NE.

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I don't like it but I'm going.If gas stays low it will offset the increase at least this year.

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Quote from: TravisB on April 02, 2020, 05:56:11 AM
$34 is the breaking point on an out of state trip? Oh well. If it's too much, I guess not going is the right decision. They're not obligated to make the fees palatable for every single person. If it's too much, don't go, if not, go. I think that's the way it is with pretty much everything in life.


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So go or no go?

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He said he wasn't, so I guess no go is the answer for him. As cheap as gas is, it would more than offset the extra $34 for tags, so I really don't know what the issue is. Like Ctrize said.


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Where's op from, they free in that state?
By the way there ain't no turkey in Missouri! ;D

The way it's going I'll be supprised if NR can hunt.

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Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 08:57:50 PM

Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 01, 2020, 07:34:34 PM
Last year was the first year I got to hunt Missouri. Went to the Northwest part of the state. Good lord willing I will be back there on the 28th. My tags cost 190 last year. 224 is only 30 bucks more and is worth it to me.

If I could spend more than maybe 2 weekends hunting there this year I might be able to justify it but not $225 for 4 days. Guess I'll have to try my luck in Wisconsin again this year. $190 just seemed a little more paletteable.

My buddy and I were suppose to make the trip to Wisconsin from NC this year (3rd season).  He has private family land to hunt but he found out last night Indiana State Police are stopping out of state cars.  Also Illinois was one of the very first states to go to the Stay at Home Order.  Not sure where you live but you may get sent back home or have to quarantine for 14 days if you can get there.  If you are traveling through multiple states, you may want to rethink out of state travel this turkey season.

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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If you where a SC resident would you feel the same way? Not saying you are wrong to be upset, just saying most hunters that call the state home feel this is long over due.

I live in eastern MN. Just across the border. $80 for a tag and not having to drive all night to hunt in the mourning made the decision easy for me.

Go back and look at the threads from 2008 when gas was close to 4$ gallon lots of people complaining. But the diehards still went hunting and made it work. The way I see it I have to spend money all year on things I don't get much out of insurance, maintenance on house cars etc. If 30$ or 100$ more will get me another chance at a Gobbling Turkey it's money well spent.

Quote from: LaLongbeard on April 02, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Hunting  will only continue to increase in cost. The English did the same thing, made Hunting a wealthy mans sport. It did cut down on the unwashed peasants they had to deal with....I'm looking forward to that part lol.

me to as long as it LA residents.

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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ONLY four bucks a year?!?!??! oh no

Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 09:35:14 PM
Yup the hunting is good. I'll just be going to Wisconsin this year to get my fix. alot cheaper and alot closer.  2hr drive instead of 6.

"alot" is two words. just thought i'd let you know since you say it A LOT and whine A LOT

As a SC resident I wish they would cut it to two bucks a year.

i'm sure A LOT of people here are for state's rights and i'd wholeheartedly agree

other states could also just not let non-residents hunt there if they so wished

It's kind of funny to hear someone complain about the cost of hunting SC as a non-resident.  The cost is cheap when compared to other states.

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Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 09:35:14 PM
Yup the hunting is good. I'll just be going to Wisconsin this year to get my fix. alot cheaper and alot closer.  2hr drive instead of 6.

"alot" is two words. just thought i'd let you know since you say it A LOT and whine A LOT

Thanks for the grammer lesson. I salute you ! Mind made up. Disappointed. No more Missouri for me and I'm sure I won't be missed. Boy I hope my sentence structure is adequate for you.

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Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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If you where a SC resident would you feel the same way? Not saying you are wrong to be upset, just saying most hunters that call the state home feel this is long over due.

SC hunters, like in many states, hate non-resident hunters. I don't feel that way about the non-residents that come to Florida to kill our Osceolas and catch our fish and lobsters. I just wish they would pay their fair share like we have to do in their states.
The charter boat captains, marina and hotel owners, turkey outfitters, and other cry the blues to FWC, and non-residents can still hunt and fish on the cheap in Florida, comparatively.

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Quote from: Paulmyr on April 02, 2020, 10:39:28 PM

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:16:40 PM

Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 09:35:14 PM
Yup the hunting is good. I'll just be going to Wisconsin this year to get my fix. alot cheaper and alot closer.  2hr drive instead of 6.

"alot" is two words. just thought i'd let you know since you say it A LOT and whine A LOT

Thanks for the grammer lesson. I salute you ! Mind made up. Disappointed. No more Missouri for me and I'm sure I won't be missed. Boy I hope my sentence structure is adequate for you.

we wouldn't miss you in wisconsin either

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:07:27 PM

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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ONLY four bucks a year?!?!??! oh no

LOL!!! Wise guy. You obviously know nothing about hunting in SC, the history of hunting in SC, or how I hunt.
Historically in SC there was no size or bag limit on bucks. Residents and non-residents alike shot the heck out of them. Not anymore, which is a good thing.
I don't shoot small bucks, so I fill my freezer with does, and a decent to good buck or 3 a year. My wife and I eat venison year round, and give away a lot to the kids.
The point of my original comment was that SCDNR reacts to the residents dislike of non-residents, and enacts new rules supposedly to help the bucks, or turkeys, but instead all they're doing is gouging the non-residents, while letting residents shoot more game. That is BS.

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Quote from: Vaughnrp2 on April 02, 2020, 10:19:24 PM
As a SC resident I wish they would cut it to two bucks a year.

I wish they would as well, and I'm a non-resident. I like Georgia's 2 restricted bucks and 10 doe bag limit. You fill your freezer with does, and let the bucks grow in number and size.

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Quote from: Vaughnrp2 on April 02, 2020, 10:26:46 PM
It's kind of funny to hear someone complain about the cost of hunting SC as a non-resident.  The cost is cheap when compared to other states.

I disagree. I've hunted in 13 states so far. As I stated in my original post, I pay $435 a year for my licenses and tags. And I don't even hunt ducks, bear, alligators nor do I fish there, and I don't hunt on WMA's. Couldn't afford to if I wanted to.

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Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:20:36 PM
i'm sure A LOT of people here are for state's rights and i'd wholeheartedly agree

other states could also just not let non-residents hunt there if they so wished

Yes they could. But states bring in big money off of non-resident hunters and fishermen. Not only they're licenses and tags, but also leases, charters, shopping, lodging, tourism while in state, etc. States aren't going to turn away that kind of money.

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Quote from: Paulmyr on April 02, 2020, 10:39:28 PM

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:16:40 PM

Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 09:35:14 PM
Yup the hunting is good. I'll just be going to Wisconsin this year to get my fix. alot cheaper and alot closer.  2hr drive instead of 6.

"alot" is two words. just thought i'd let you know since you say it A LOT and whine A LOT

Thanks for the grammer lesson. I salute you ! Mind made up. Disappointed. No more Missouri for me and I'm sure I won't be missed. Boy I hope my sentence structure is adequate for you.

we wouldn't miss you in wisconsin either

I'm sure you wouldn't.

You are correct it is no long cheap but it isn't what I would call overly expensive either. Hell for years SC gave those tags away for free which I never understood.

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Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:48:08 PM

Quote from: Paulmyr on April 02, 2020, 10:39:28 PM

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:16:40 PM

Quote from: Paulmyr on April 01, 2020, 09:35:14 PM
Yup the hunting is good. I'll just be going to Wisconsin this year to get my fix. alot cheaper and alot closer.  2hr drive instead of 6.

"alot" is two words. just thought i'd let you know since you say it A LOT and whine A LOT

Thanks for the grammer lesson. I salute you ! Mind made up. Disappointed. No more Missouri for me and I'm sure I won't be missed. Boy I hope my sentence structure is adequate for you.

we wouldn't miss you in wisconsin either

I'm sure you wouldn't.

By the way Wisconsin is a proper noun spelled with a capital W.

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Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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ONLY four bucks a year?!?!??! oh no

LOL!!! Wise guy. You obviously know nothing about hunting in SC, the history of hunting in SC, or how I hunt.
Historically in SC there was no size or bag limit on bucks. Residents and non-residents alike shot the heck out of them. Not anymore, which is a good thing.
I don't shoot small bucks, so I fill my freezer with does, and a decent to good buck or 3 a year. My wife and I eat venison year round, and give away a lot to the kids.
The point of my original comment was that SCDNR reacts to the residents dislike of non-residents, and enacts new rules supposedly to help the bucks, or turkeys, but instead all they're doing is gouging the non-residents, while letting residents shoot more game. That is BS.

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i understand your frustrations. the vast majority of people are happy and lucky to get a few deer a year. you don't shoot small bucks, yet you harvest 3 or 4 "harvestable" bucks a year in another state. kudos to you sir. i respect your opinion, i just don't agree with it

if everyone shot multiple doe and 1-4 bucks a year there would be no deer left. shouldn't you pay your share, however reasonable or ridiculous it is(to you)?

you're right. i know nothing of hunting in south carolina. my opinions are based off my experience.

i live in wisconsin where we're known for monster bucks, huge herds, and a massive percentage of the population that deer hunts(maybe highest in USA)

having lived with these facts, i think complaining about only being able to shoot 4 bucks in another state is ridiculous. i may be wrong, but would be wrong through ignorance and if so i apologize

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 11:21:37 PM

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 02, 2020, 10:51:18 PM

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Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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ONLY four bucks a year?!?!??! oh no

LOL!!! Wise guy. You obviously know nothing about hunting in SC, the history of hunting in SC, or how I hunt.
Historically in SC there was no size or bag limit on bucks. Residents and non-residents alike shot the heck out of them. Not anymore, which is a good thing.
I don't shoot small bucks, so I fill my freezer with does, and a decent to good buck or 3 a year. My wife and I eat venison year round, and give away a lot to the kids.
The point of my original comment was that SCDNR reacts to the residents dislike of non-residents, and enacts new rules supposedly to help the bucks, or turkeys, but instead all they're doing is gouging the non-residents, while letting residents shoot more game. That is BS.

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i understand your frustrations. the vast majority of people are happy and lucky to get a few deer a year. you don't shoot small bucks, yet you harvest 3 or 4 "harvestable" bucks a year in another state. kudos to you sir. i respect your opinion, i just don't agree with it

if everyone shot multiple doe and 1-4 bucks a year there would be no deer left. shouldn't you pay your share, however reasonable or ridiculous it is(to you)?

Historically there was no bag limit or size limit because most deer hunting was done in front of a pack of dogs in SC. For better or worse that has changed and so have the rule that govern deer hunting. Also there where multiple changes in turkey regulation this year some affecting instate and out of state hunter alike.

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 11:27:19 PM
you're right. i know nothing of hunting in south carolina. my opinions are based off my experience.

i live in wisconsin where we're known for monster bucks, huge herds, and a massive percentage of the population that deer hunts(maybe highest in USA)

having lived with these facts, i think complaining about only being able to shoot 4 bucks in another state is ridiculous. i may be wrong, but would be wrong through ignorance and if so i apologize

Nothing to apologize about anything. Your deer hunting and my deer hunting are 2 different worlds. Simple as that.

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Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 11:21:37 PM

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 02, 2020, 10:51:18 PM

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:07:27 PM

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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ONLY four bucks a year?!?!??! oh no

LOL!!! Wise guy. You obviously know nothing about hunting in SC, the history of hunting in SC, or how I hunt.
Historically in SC there was no size or bag limit on bucks. Residents and non-residents alike shot the heck out of them. Not anymore, which is a good thing.
I don't shoot small bucks, so I fill my freezer with does, and a decent to good buck or 3 a year. My wife and I eat venison year round, and give away a lot to the kids.
The point of my original comment was that SCDNR reacts to the residents dislike of non-residents, and enacts new rules supposedly to help the bucks, or turkeys, but instead all they're doing is gouging the non-residents, while letting residents shoot more game. That is BS.

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i understand your frustrations. the vast majority of people are happy and lucky to get a few deer a year. you don't shoot small bucks, yet you harvest 3 or 4 "harvestable" bucks a year in another state. kudos to you sir. i respect your opinion, i just don't agree with it

if everyone shot multiple doe and 1-4 bucks a year there would be no deer left. shouldn't you pay your share, however reasonable or ridiculous it is(to you)?

There would be no deer left? You have obviously never hunted in the Lowcountry of SC.

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Quote from: Vaughnrp2 on April 02, 2020, 11:40:43 PM

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 11:21:37 PM

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 02, 2020, 10:51:18 PM

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:07:27 PM

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 01, 2020, 10:27:10 PM
Could be worse. In SC this year the non-resident turkey tags went from free to $100, and they cut the bag limit FOR NON-RESIDENTS ONLY from 3 down to 2. Of course resident hunters, who greatly outnumber non-resident hunters, can still shoot 3 turkeys.
This was all done in the name of "protecting the turkey population". What a load of garbage!! If it was about protecting the turkey population, then ALL hunters would only be able to take 2 gobblers. It has NOTHING to do with protecting turkeys. It has to do with raising money for the state of SC, and discriminating against non-residents. If it wasn't for the time, money and effort I've put into my hunting property and camp, I'd find another state to hunt in.
This follows a new program 2 years ago that implemented a deer tag program that limited non-residents only to 4 bucks a year, cost non-residents an extra $110 a year, and doe tags went from $5 to $10, costing non-residents an additional $20 a year. Of course residents pay next to nothing, and can shoot more deer.
So now if you are a non-resident, and buy your 4 bucks tags, and 4 doe tags, and 2 turkey tags, in addition to your hunting license and big game permit, you're now on the hook for $435 to hunt deer and turkey. If you hunt waterfowl, bear, alligator, or on a WMA, the price keeps going up, up and up.

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ONLY four bucks a year?!?!??! oh no

LOL!!! Wise guy. You obviously know nothing about hunting in SC, the history of hunting in SC, or how I hunt.
Historically in SC there was no size or bag limit on bucks. Residents and non-residents alike shot the heck out of them. Not anymore, which is a good thing.
I don't shoot small bucks, so I fill my freezer with does, and a decent to good buck or 3 a year. My wife and I eat venison year round, and give away a lot to the kids.
The point of my original comment was that SCDNR reacts to the residents dislike of non-residents, and enacts new rules supposedly to help the bucks, or turkeys, but instead all they're doing is gouging the non-residents, while letting residents shoot more game. That is BS.

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i understand your frustrations. the vast majority of people are happy and lucky to get a few deer a year. you don't shoot small bucks, yet you harvest 3 or 4 "harvestable" bucks a year in another state. kudos to you sir. i respect your opinion, i just don't agree with it

if everyone shot multiple doe and 1-4 bucks a year there would be no deer left. shouldn't you pay your share, however reasonable or ridiculous it is(to you)?

Historically there was no bag limit or size limit because most deer hunting was done in front of a pack of dogs in SC. For better or worse that has changed and so have the rule that govern deer hunting. Also there where multiple changes in turkey regulation this year some affecting instate and out of state hunter alike.

Long after dog hunting went out of style, and was no longer accepted, there was still no size or bag limits on bucks.
I'm not arguing for a return to those days. I think it was ridiculous, and poor management by SCDNR.

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Alternatively, I think the cheapest I've seen is Michigan and Oklahoma. If I remember correctly Michigan is 15 and Oklahoma is 20

Talk about a thread derail. Corona got ya'll acting crazy.

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Quote from: LaLongbeard on April 02, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Hunting  will only continue to increase in cost. The English did the same thing, made Hunting a wealthy mans sport. It did cut down on the unwashed peasants they had to deal with....I'm looking forward to that part lol.

me to as long as it LA residents.

Well if the La boys are leasing up your Mississippi land I guess they look at you like the peasant lol.
I myself only hunt public land no matter the state.

Quote from: bigriverbum on April 02, 2020, 10:20:36 PM
i'm sure A LOT of people here are for state's rights and i'd wholeheartedly agree

other states could also just not let non-residents hunt there if they so wished

If I purchased my tags for another state while sitting on my couch, I would be purchasing the right to hunt in that state over state lines. I believe that would put it under the interstate commerce clause. The non-res hunting issue would be under federal control. So in the theory NR should be charged the same as Res tags. The state would be able to avoid the interstate commerce clause by only selling NR tags over the counter. Not saying I am a fan of the IC clause. It has been used for some nefarious reasons. Technically speaking, states would give up the right to manage their resources by selling NR tags online.
My brain is starting to hurt after coming up with that.

I don't really expect the MDC to close season to non resident hunters this year do to spread of COVID-19 but I saw where Kansas has so I guess that is a possibility.