Hey fellas. I ain't been on here much. Bought a house I've been working on all summer/fall than working a bunch.
Hope all is well.
Reason I'm writing is I saw something that didn't sit well with me.
This forum has the absolute best guys with tremendous knowledge willing to give freely. As a child no one ever told you anything. I'm sure some remember yet they aren't that way themselves and have zero ego.
To my knowledge no one has ever been threatened w being booted simply by talking about great hunting somewhere. Good to have an imagination though.
This guy which goes by another name on here is bad mouthing the site and its members. Just don't like it.
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Must be he got kicked off, his name does not even come up as a member over there. I belong to both sites myself, prefer this one but have no problems with the other. People have opinions and so people have big mouths, don't sweat it.
I didn't use his name over here.
Does this guy like using train whistles for a locator call? In all honesty I wouldn't worry about it. If he wants his hunting areas overrun with people then so be it. I believe I read somewhere on here Shannon warning guys about providing to much info but whatever. However I do want my status upgraded to "Pro". Never really thought that was a thing in the hunting world and my mommy would be so proud! I will start drafting my acceptance speech as soon as I find my crayons.
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Yes that's him. I'm not overly worried bout it. I'm just not big on fellows spreading bs about others. There's some really good guys here.
He's been called out on his ideas of turkey hunting on the other forum also.
Just sour grapes, you could give free steak dinners to 10 different people and somebody would complain
Regardless it's all about the tactic's in getting that bird ...sometimes we just chase our own tails ... different methods and approaches has a way of getting that gobbler fired up.. so i guess he's thinking out of the box or whatever , i think we have tendency to worry about what others think and we get away from really enjoying the hunt ourselves.. As crow said you can give 10 free dinners away and someone would complain ... great point Crow .. my suggestion is stop worrying about how other people do , just take care of your own back door. My opinion .. Yes this is the best forum and the knowledge form old and young hunter is awesome, we can all still learn regardless of age and tactics ... don't forget while crossing the fence the barbed wire made a squealing noise and the gobbler fired off down in the field .. lol.... looking forward to spring 2020...
There's no attempt at saying any ideas aren't valid. It's the untruths . Everyone on here is more than helpful. No should tell others, especially those who don't know otherwise. Dishonest
All I know is I'm on a lot of different forum sites and this is by far the best. Good information with healthy respectful dialog.
When the state NJ came up in his post I'm almost sure most of us know who this fella is.
:popcorn:
Quote from: Bowguy on December 09, 2019, 06:54:50 AM
Yes that's him. I'm not overly worried bout it. I'm just not big on fellows spreading bs about others. There's some really good guys here.
Totally agree
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I remember that guy also.
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I'm gonna day there is definitely some great people on this board. Just recently I posted about hunting in another state trying to get some leads/ ideas where to start and my inbox filled up with help from board members here. Try to find that somewhere else.
Have always been the one to boost others up and not put them down, have been around long enough to have learned the good part of life. I let the negatives just slide off, don't need to bother with those types.
Bunch of good guys/ladies here! Can't wait for the 2020 season to get here, already getting hunts lined up for the season!!
MK M GOBL
Quote from: Happy on December 09, 2019, 06:36:09 AM
Does this guy like using train whistles for a locator call? In all honesty I wouldn't worry about it. If he wants his hunting areas overrun with people then so be it. I believe I read somewhere on here Shannon warning guys about providing to much info but whatever. However I do want my status upgraded to "Pro". Never really thought that was a thing in the hunting world and my mommy would be so proud! I will start drafting my acceptance speech as soon as I find my crayons.
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Don't really know who this is about and don't really care. I'll just keep my nose in my own blind and not worry about the others. But I want in on the "Pro" upgrade! Once you achieve it can you let me know how you did it? PM is fine because we don't really want the others in on it. HaHa Bubba
Don't sweat the small stuff!
hmmmm some things to think about in the off-season. First, I think you'd want to be a part of any discussion with those who have been successful in any endeavor. The mouse who insist on finding his own way through the maze instead of following those who know the way is generally left without any cheese.
I can't quite figure out the pro thing. My impression of being pro is you get paid .......all I do is spend. I gotta figure this one out. I'm with the rest of you, when someone figures it out let me know.....oh that's right we don't share info. Well how about you just blow a train whistle and we'll know who to watch.
Disclaimer: Just having fun I'm not directing anything towards anyone, at least until after Christmas.....want to stay on the nice list at least a few more days.
I thought professional hunters were those fellows in Africa that took rich yuppies off into the Bush and let them shoot stuff and feel manly while making sure they didn't get any booboo's. That's what I picked up from reading Robert Ruarke books anyways.
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Im a self proclaimed pro. A legend in my own mind :thanks:
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on December 16, 2019, 05:22:26 PM
Im a self proclaimed pro. A legend in my own mind :thanks:
Aren't we all. :fud:
Quote from: mtns2hunt on December 16, 2019, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on December 16, 2019, 05:22:26 PM
Im a self proclaimed pro. A legend in my own mind :thanks:
Aren't we all. :fud:
LOL wouldn't that be "Lego my Ego"
MK M GOBL
There are good legends and bad legends......I'm afraid to ask what one I would fall in :funnyturkey:
I spent about 10 years on Pro-Staff for a call company. Years back, a fellow staffer and I were hunting in southeast WV in some of the Lord's most rugged creation. My partner was a mile or two off.from me and happened across an elderly gentleman who was hunting, as well. Conversation followed and my partner mentioned he was a staffer for the company........the name of which was on his hat. The old fellow asked, "So, are you one of them professional turkey hunters ?". My partner asked him what he would consider a "professional turkey hunter". The old guy said, "Well......... I suppose it's a guy with younger legs than mine."
Can I trade in a couple nuts for a pro badge?
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
This is the good time of year for this forum. After the NWTF convention the hate towards, blinds,decoys,early archery season,shooting jakes,bearded hens,Fall hunting,NWTF,small bore guns,all day hunting, shooting little deer,Native Americans, fanning, and fellow members, becomes like a Democratic chit show.
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Here's your official Badge Gobble... Just fill in your name
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 21, 2019, 07:58:24 AM
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
Couldn't have said it better if I tried. I have some good friends who love to go to Kansas, because it is relatively easy to kill a bird compared to here in AR and that many private landowners will still give permission. I prefer places like MO, MS, AL, etc. I love the challenge, love the hunt, and to me, there is nothing better than the feeling of accomplishment when I conquer a over-pressured public land bird.
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 21, 2019, 07:58:24 AM
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
Perfect post and 100% truth!!!
Dadgum...I'm a pro.
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 21, 2019, 07:58:24 AM
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
Amen
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 21, 2019, 07:58:24 AM
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
There might be a lot of lazy millennials out there but I can assure you there's plenty
That will walk the soles of their shoes and put in the Work.
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Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 21, 2019, 07:58:24 AM
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
There might be a lot of lazy millennials out there but I can assure you there's plenty
That will walk the soles of their shoes and put in the Work.
Of course there are Mellennials willing to put in the time and effort. It's the Mentors responsibility to differentiate between the two. No handouts were given to me nor I to others. The Learning and mistakes(which I laugh about now) are all part of the experience IMO.
Quote from: Harty on January 03, 2020, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: ArkyRidgeRunna on January 02, 2020, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on December 21, 2019, 07:58:24 AM
This may sound harsh .... your going to meet alot of people who want to shoot a wild turkey but fewer that want to hunt a wild Turkey do yourself a favor and quickly determine the difference between the two ...and put some distance between the "shooters" and anything to do with yourself
A real turkey hunter knows how to find his/her own spots and keep them secret , only a fool makes them public , writing about a hunting spot PUBLICLY on the internet, magazine publication, or tv only makes you a bigger fool
Now let me elaborate.........I have helped countless people get into Turkey hunting , notice how I said the word "help" I learned long , long ago you are to "help " them not do EVERYTHING for them.... if they show a willingness to learn the SKILLS it takes to be a hunter that's good , if they simply want handouts like a garbage bear.....avoid them
In this day and age of communication and technology, probably the worst thing you can do is swing the door wide open to the " lazy millenial hunters " who "internet scout" and provide them specifics on where to clean out the woods of deer, ducks and turkeys
There might be a lot of lazy millennials out there but I can assure you there's plenty
That will walk the soles of their shoes and put in the Work.
Of course there are Mellennials willing to put in the time and effort. It's the Mentors responsibility to differentiate between the two. No handouts were given to me nor I to others. The Learning and mistakes(which I laugh about now) are all part of the experience IMO.
Ain't that the truth
I have helped a bunch and also took a few shooters. I try and stay away from the shooters anymore, but hey if one calls and ask me to go do the heavy work on his spot so he can shoot one and I've already been tagged out for a week or two I'll go for another hunt. Make no mistake, it's his spot and time I'm just having fun calling gobblers. Still they have to be decent people and be decent company, no arseholes.
The other side of swinging that door wide open is keeping your spot yours. Early in my turkey hunting days I mentored a lot of people and being a nice guy I usually took them right along with me to my top spots. After finding a few of them in the same spots after I taught them and getting crowded out myself I learned to keep the honey holes secure. It's not being selfish it's just learning human nature. I have to really trust someone now before they get inside access. I had one guy, I taught a lot and took to many spots. Then one day I pull into a farm to find him parked and hunting. When I run into him he jumps me and says, "what are you doing hunting my spot, I talked to Farmer Bob and he gave me exclusive permission". I felt like I had been molested, and paybacks are a Bitch. I promptly informed all my other land owners they did not want that fool on their land and he lost more then he gained. We farmed for most of them and they weren't about to piss-off the people who made them money.