So tonight as I was letting the dog out to go the the bathroom I couldn't help but notice the sound of what seemed like 2-4 coon dogs running across my property. My property consist of roughly 100 acres with 2 fields and 2 sets of hardwoods. Now the problem with this is the dogs were running straight through where I know for a fact turkeys are roosted and have already heard them gobble earlier this week. So I have 2 thoughts/concerns and I would like to share them and see what you guys think.
1.) I understand dogs do not know where property lines are and they were just doing what they are trained to do; however I'm not real happy that the owners did not get the dogs but for about 45 minutes to an hour of them running all over my land. Should I be more reasonable and understanding or do I have the right to be mad?
2.) here in Ohio we still have about 17 days until season so the turkeys have plenty of time to settle back down, but if this were to happen a day or so before the season should I worry that the birds will relocate their roosting spot?
Just for the record I am 100% sure these are coon dogs because I took a drive around the block and saw a truck with coon cages in the back. No human was around/in the truck
Again, I would love to hear the different opinions on this. Thanks!
Quote from: AC HAMMER on April 05, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
So tonight as I was letting the dog out to go the the bathroom I couldn't help but notice the sound of what seemed like 2-4 coon dogs running across my property. My property consist of roughly 100 acres with 2 fields and 2 sets of hardwoods. Now the problem with this is the dogs were running straight through where I know for a fact turkeys are roosted and have already heard them gobble earlier this week. So I have 2 thoughts/concerns and I would like to share them and see what you guys think.
1.) I understand dogs do not know where property lines are and they were just doing what they are trained to do; however I'm not real happy that the owners did not get the dogs but for about 45 minutes to an hour of them running all over my land. Should I be more reasonable and understanding or do I have the right to be mad?
2.) here in Ohio we still have about 17 days until season so the turkeys have plenty of time to settle back down, but if this were to happen a day or so before the season should I worry that the birds will relocate their roosting spot?
Just for the record I am 100% sure these are coon dogs because I took a drive around the block and saw a truck with coon cages in the back. No human was around/in the truck
Again, I would love to hear the different opinions on this. Thanks!
Hey man I coon hunt an turkey hunt hard many nights iv been sitting in the woods (light off) listening to the dogs work a track closer then 50 yards from me. Hear something dropping out of a tree close by shine the light a birds be roosted around me. They don't fly if you kinda just hit um with the light an take it off them and if they take a few coons it should help your population of birds. One lest nest robber to have around.
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Bear hunter,
I also had the same thought about the thought of less coon! But the season is not in. So they are not going to be taking any out.
I would make it a point to jot down vehicle info and find out the owner and make contact with them. If they are the dog owners and understand your situation with the impending turkey season and disturbance they are causing I would think a reasonable fellow would move on. I'm also aware that some folks just aren't reasonable. If that turns out to be the case, take photos and or videos to submit to your sheriff's office and let them handle it.
Quote from: Rzrbac on April 05, 2018, 11:27:27 PM
I would make it a point to jot down vehicle info and find out the owner and make contact with them. If they are the dog owners and understand your situation with the impending turkey season and disturbance they are causing I would think a reasonable fellow would move on. I'm also aware that some folks just aren't reasonable. If that turns out to be the case, take photos and or videos to submit to your sheriff's office and let them handle it.
I did jot down the plate #. Not planning on doing anything unless it because a repeat issue I think. Who know though!
I coonhunted for most of my life also. I've heard Turkey's leave the roost when walking in with our lights getting our dogs if we were close to the roost. I also don't believe they fly far. If it was my land and I was an avid turkey hunter I would make contact with the coonhunter.
In Iowa we have the right to go get our dogs,but any reasonable guy if asked by a landowning turkey hunter would gladly stay away especially as nice and reasonable as you sound.
I'm sure they are training dogs probably for competition or could be just for the fun of it. I hunted a turkey hunters land for years without any problems,but I stayed out a couple weeks before season until it was over. Coexisting without problem.
Like another poster stated I'm sure they kill a lot of coon in season saving a lot of nest in the spring.
I use to travel to Ashland Ohio every spring to a Big bluetick coonhound competition. Loved the scenery and hunting event.
I'm sure you can co exist and both enjoy your sport with communication.
We hunted coons when I was young, no turkeys around then. Now, I would make contact with the dog's owner and ask him to not train for the month leading up to and the turkey season. Please come back after to train and take as many as possible in the season. He should respect your land owner rights and understand. If not, post it" access by permission only" and proceed accordingly. Usually word of mouth is enough to fix these disputes. I am from and live in a small town, these things usually get resolved quickly. Good luck, Al Baker
Quote from: AC HAMMER on April 05, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
So tonight as I was letting the dog out to go the the bathroom I couldn't help but notice the sound of what seemed like 2-4 coon dogs running across my property. My property consist of roughly 100 acres with 2 fields and 2 sets of hardwoods. Now the problem with this is the dogs were running straight through where I know for a fact turkeys are roosted and have already heard them gobble earlier this week. So I have 2 thoughts/concerns and I would like to share them and see what you guys think.
1.) I understand dogs do not know where property lines are and they were just doing what they are trained to do; however I'm not real happy that the owners did not get the dogs but for about 45 minutes to an hour of them running all over my land. Should I be more reasonable and understanding or do I have the right to be mad?
2.) here in Ohio we still have about 17 days until season so the turkeys have plenty of time to settle back down, but if this were to happen a day or so before the season should I worry that the birds will relocate their roosting spot?
Just for the record I am 100% sure these are coon dogs because I took a drive around the block and saw a truck with coon cages in the back. No human was around/in the truck
Again, I would love to hear the different opinions on this. Thanks!
I'm not real big on trespassers so I would not have been happy. It's always confused me how going onto someone's land without permission is ok when you're coon hunting but not when you're hunting something else.
Years ago I was deer hunting on land I thought I had permission to be on. When returning to my pickup there was a note on the windshield. Turned out my understanding of the property lines was incorrect. If there is a next time, leave them a note. As was said most reasonable hunters will respect your wishes especially if you welcome them back after turkey time. If they are not reasonable, the local game warden and or sheriff is your next step.
I coon hunt and turkey hunt both. I have seen many turkeys on the roost when we coon hunt. Some fly some don't. But they normally only fly a few trees over or a couple hundred yards at most. I don't feel that it would run them out of the area. If they did get busted up at night, might make it easier to call in the next morning since they will be wanting to get back together. One time I had a Tom gobble at us as the dogs ran thru barking! Hopefully they just got over on you by mistake and want be back. It's really hard to keep control of dogs as they are running. Not all coon hunters are poachers!
It's the dog owners responsibility to keep his animal on property he has permission to hunt. I feel dogs caught where they aren't supose to be should incur a fine. Hate when deer dogs run on our ground. Whether or not if it effects the turkeys is irrelevant, your land, if you want them there fine. If not, they shouldn't be there.
Quote from: dirt road ninja on April 06, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
It's the dog owners responsibility to keep his animal on property he has permission to hunt. I feel dogs caught where they aren't supose to be should incur a fine. Hate when deer dogs run on our ground. Whether or not if it effects the turkeys is irrelevant, your land, if you want them there fine. If not, they shouldn't be there.
Not trying to sound rude in the least. What would be your idea to "control" them to stay on your land? Down here it's farm country. Every so often cows horses sheep's goats dogs cats yes stuff gets loose it means no harm. You just get your animal and everyone is happy. I understand this could have been intentional tresspassing but imo I would think it was not.
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Quote from: dirt road ninja on April 06, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
It's the dog owners responsibility to keep his animal on property he has permission to hunt. I feel dogs caught where they aren't supose to be should incur a fine. Hate when deer dogs run on our ground. Whether or not if it effects the turkeys is irrelevant, your land, if you want them there fine. If not, they shouldn't be there.
I take it u never ran hounds,and for the turkey roosting and dogs at night them birds will stay in that lot, birds flush out at night all the time for many non human reasons but they stay in that wood lot,
Coon hunters and mushroom hunters biggest trespassers in our area, I do not care if it spooks birds or not in the sense that they do not belong there.
One time deal, not going to get too concerned, but every coon hunter in the world will come tell you it's no big deal, which is b.s. imho
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Quote from: AC HAMMER on April 05, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
So tonight as I was letting the dog out to go the the bathroom I couldn't help but notice the sound of what seemed like 2-4 coon dogs running across my property. My property consist of roughly 100 acres with 2 fields and 2 sets of hardwoods. Now the problem with this is the dogs were running straight through where I know for a fact turkeys are roosted and have already heard them gobble earlier this week. So I have 2 thoughts/concerns and I would like to share them and see what you guys think.
1.) I understand dogs do not know where property lines are and they were just doing what they are trained to do; however I'm not real happy that the owners did not get the dogs but for about 45 minutes to an hour of them running all over my land. Should I be more reasonable and understanding or do I have the right to be mad?
2.) here in Ohio we still have about 17 days until season so the turkeys have plenty of time to settle back down, but if this were to happen a day or so before the season should I worry that the birds will relocate their roosting spot?
Just for the record I am 100% sure these are coon dogs because I took a drive around the block and saw a truck with coon cages in the back. No human was around/in the truck
Again, I would love to hear the different opinions on this. Thanks!
In my opinion you need to get them off your land. Any dog smell is associated with being a predator. It is just like if you were walking through your own land stinking it all up with human scent and such. The more it happens the more you pressure any prey animals and they may start to stay away. Not all of them will leave but many will be driven off (Deer, turkey, other game birds...etc.). if it is a good neighbor, then just have a sensible conversation with him and he should understand. Just my two scents. If it only happens once or twice I would not worry too much but if you hear it more than that id be concerned.
Its a good thing turkeys can't smell, or no one would ever kill one.
If it was my land, I'd leave the person a note asking him to call you or better yet, stop by. If he seems like a good guy, I'd invite him to coon hunt it all he wants as long as he killed the coons when legal and follows your rules. My rules would be kill as many coons as possible, leave the land as good or better than you found it, kill the coons, stay off during turkey season, kill the coons, stay off during deer season and most importantly, kill the coons.
A leash. If you can't control your animal don't run it. I don't let my dog run amuck. It's a shame how many dog hunters are irresponsible. I attribute many of the small high fence places popping up a direct reaction to walker hounds.
Years ago I ran deer dogs.
Quote from: Bearhunter247 on April 06, 2018, 07:16:57 AM
Quote from: dirt road ninja on April 06, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
It's the dog owners responsibility to keep his animal on property he has permission to hunt. I feel dogs caught where they aren't supose to be should incur a fine. Hate when deer dogs run on our ground. Whether or not if it effects the turkeys is irrelevant, your land, if you want them there fine. If not, they shouldn't be there.
Not trying to sound rude in the least. What would be your idea to "control" them to stay on your land? Down here it's farm country. Every so often cows horses sheep's goats dogs cats yes stuff gets loose it means no harm. You just get your animal and everyone is happy. I understand this could have been intentional tresspassing but imo I would think it was not.
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A animal escaping it's pasture or pen is a different story. I use to have a lease next to a fox pen, and the once a year a dog got out didn't bother me. What did is/was where the regular dog hunters who turn a half dozen walkers loose on 200 acres without any means of containment. It's a simple solution, find a very large track of land where your animals are welcome, down size your dogs to short legged beagles that won't travel as far, or get a leash. I don't want them running around my ground and it shouldn't be my responsibility to keep them off.
If it was me I wouldn't stress over it. Coon hunters have almost no affect on hunting turkeys. I would have made effort to meet who ever it was--most coon hunters I know are good fellows.
It seems that if you own land there are those who don't own land that think they can use yours without permission. It is called trespassing, no if's, ands, or but's about it. If a coon hunter would ask permission I would be happy to grant it, on my terms and conditions as I own the land. I would gladly like to rid the property of predators that prey on turkeys. I have coyote hunters that are currently hunting my property for that very reason.
I have even been accused by trespassers that I don't know where my property lines are, that I am trespassing, etc. etc. It tends to make a person upset.
Don't assume that just because you are running dogs it is ok to let them go antwhere they want because you are doing the landowner a "favor" by removing the coons, ask for permission first. Most of the time you will get permission, if not then stay off, it is not your land and you deserve any repercussions that might result.
Sensitive subject.
I'm not saying people don't intentionally trespass because they do. And I know it's hard to understand that I'm assuming they guy didn't turn loose on the op's land I hope not anyway. I got chewed out more knocking on someone's door at 2:00 in the morning asking could I go get my dog than not. Instead I'd walk in go get the dog come back the next day apologize if I woke them. Most of the times they never knew I was there and invited me back to hunt. It's not all bad but the way the world has turned it's a very finicky subject to knock on a person's door in the night asking to go in most people are sleeping and get startled. We do have the right to retrieve law down here I just always go back to meet the person at a decent hour and get to know them anyway
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1 - I'd talk to the hunters and tell them to try to keep the dogs off my property.
2 - I wouldn't be too worried unless they did it the night before the opener.
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
I have a friend whos Dual Grand Champion coonhound ran onto someone's property that thought the same way. It ended up costing the landowner right around 15,000$
I would do as you did and take down plate number, then I would try and find out who it was and have a conversation. I'd ask them to ask me first or let me know if they plan to turn lose near or on my property with that understanding I would let them know that I will always say yes to coon hunting or trapping outside of turkey and deer season plus a few weeks on the front end.
In my mind a week after season I'd offer the guy a beer for taking coons out during or just before season I'd be reasonably irritated
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Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
That is the most irresponsible response that Ive seen. Threatening dogs or livestock killers are one thing, but someones bird dog or a neighbor's pet that got away from the owner is quite another.
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
There's a long list of things I'd do first, I don't think I would ever be to the point of putting a dog down outside of attacking my children. I've been bit by lose neighbors dogs twice and still didn't think about drawing just I wish they were trained as well as my dog.
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I'd find out who they were and if they were neighboring land owners or if they were just dropping the gate somewhere. Let them know it's your property and that you're a turkey hunter. Offer them permission to hunt after turkey season as long as they kill the coons. You'll benefit, the turkeys will benefit, and the coon hunters will benefit. If hey're considerate at all they'll stay off your place until after season. If not, then you do what you have to do.
Got coon hounds on my trail cams last week. Not too concerned, turkeys deal with all kinds of intruptions. Now if I catch anyone on the property during daylight there is a problem. I have the wardens number saved on my phone. Generally I feel coon hunters are a benifit. Plus I admire anyone that runs through the woods at night. I have enough issues in daylight LOL.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on April 06, 2018, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
I have a friend whos Dual Grand Champion coonhound ran onto someone's property that thought the same way. It ended up costing the landowner right around 15,000$
It would cost them that and a hell of a headache after the beating I gave them if it was my dog.
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
Nobody should trespass with their dogs.... But accidents happens....
Shoot my dogs for simply trespassing.... you'll end up cold and stiff.
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
True story--- I know a guy that shot a couple of coon dogs one night. He didn't think it through. He also raised purebred black angus cattle. Somehow some poison go into the salt lick container and he lost a number of cows. Actions have consequences. You don't mess with a man's wife, kids or dogs--not necessarily in that order.
Quote from: catdaddy on April 06, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 06, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Loose dogs on my property are shot on sight.
True story--- I know a guy that shot a couple of coon dogs one night. He didn't think it through. He also raised purebred black angus cattle. Somehow some poison go into the salt lick container and he lost a number of cows. Actions have consequences. You don't mess with a man's wife, kids or dogs--not necessarily in that order.
Sounds like low down jack legs that trespass and hurt a man's living. I am not advocating shooting dogs on sight but at least his cows were in his property. If they were my cows someone would be wishing they never ran the dogs to begin with. With technology today it is not hard to know where your dogs are and to get them where they are supposed to be. If you do not have enough land to run them on then do not run them.
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You tough talking guys might end up pushing up daisies next to your dog if you threaten a mans life. Some folks take that threat seriously and will defend their life or physical well being at your expense. Would you really commit murder over a dog?
Quote from: Ozark Ridge Runner on April 06, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
You tough talking guys might end up pushing up daisies next to your dog if you threaten a mans life. Some folks take that threat seriously and will defend their life or physical well being at your expense. Would you really commit murder over a dog?
Would you really kill somebodies pet for crossing on to your property?
Tolerance goes a long way.
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Quote from: AC HAMMER on April 05, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
So tonight as I was letting the dog out to go the the bathroom I couldn't help but notice the sound of what seemed like 2-4 coon dogs running across my property. My property consist of roughly 100 acres with 2 fields and 2 sets of hardwoods. Now the problem with this is the dogs were running straight through where I know for a fact turkeys are roosted and have already heard them gobble earlier this week. So I have 2 thoughts/concerns and I would like to share them and see what you guys think.
1.) I understand dogs do not know where property lines are and they were just doing what they are trained to do; however I'm not real happy that the owners did not get the dogs but for about 45 minutes to an hour of them running all over my land. Should I be more reasonable and understanding or do I have the right to be mad?
2.) here in Ohio we still have about 17 days until season so the turkeys have plenty of time to settle back down, but if this were to happen a day or so before the season should I worry that the birds will relocate their roosting spot?
Just for the record I am 100% sure these are coon dogs because I took a drive around the block and saw a truck with coon cages in the back. No human was around/in the truck
Again, I would love to hear the different opinions on this. Thanks!
In my opinion you need to get them off your land. Any dog smell is associated with being a predator. It is just like if you were walking through your own land stinking it all up with human scent and such. The more it happens the more you pressure any prey animals and they may start to stay away. Not all of them will leave but many will be driven off (Deer, turkey, other game birds...etc.). if it is a good neighbor, then just have a sensible conversation with him and he should understand. Just my two scents. If it only happens once or twice I would not worry too much but if you hear it more than that id be concerned.
FYI Turkeys cant smell.
Im not continuing this discussion any, its headed in the wrong direction.
1. Dogs can't read trespass signs
2. Hounds aren't easily pulled off a trail (you mentioned time running)
3. Not a disaster for your hunting
4. A flagrant disregard for property lines vs. an accidental spill over can mean a lot. Communication is key
5. They aren't a gang of thugs breaking into your house... they were hunters enjoying what we do. No need for anyone to get shot - including the dogs.
6. Turkeys can't smell
Communication is key and when you go on someone's property without permission that's trespassing.
I'm not for shooting people's dogs. I'm also not for trespassers using my hound can't read as an excuse to come on to my property.
I fight this problem yearly in Ohio. I call the dog warden. She does the best job she can.
Quote from: dirt road ninja on April 06, 2018, 08:23:36 AM
A leash. If you can't control your animal don't run it. I don't let my dog run amuck. It's a shame how many dog hunters are irresponsible. I attribute many of the small high fence places popping up a direct reaction to walker hounds.
Years ago I ran deer dogs.
You must have been in dang good shape if you ran deer dogs holding a leash ??
Quote from: wvspitndrum on April 06, 2018, 08:18:06 PM
Quote from: dirt road ninja on April 06, 2018, 08:23:36 AM
A leash. If you can't control your animal don't run it. I don't let my dog run amuck. It's a shame how many dog hunters are irresponsible. I attribute many of the small high fence places popping up a direct reaction to walker hounds.
Years ago I ran deer dogs.
You must have been in dang good shape if you ran deer dogs holding a leash ??
He must of meant years ago he ran WITH deer dogs.
My dogs were trained don't look for me. I'll come get you when your treed. As far as the comment on don't turn your dogs loose unless you have enough ground to hunt. Yeah right. They are trained to follow a coon wherever it goes. I could have a huge area to hunt and on occasion they'd find the one guy with 20 acres that didnt want you in it. Id go in grab my dog and get out.
Good lord. This is the same conversation year after year on archery talk. Some people jumping up and down wanting to kill the dog and others threatening to kill someone if they did something to their dog. I'm a dog lover and would not kill one for being on my land. I may be pissed but would not hurt the dog. Hopefully the guys with the coon hounds are thinning out those nest raiders. They may be doing you a greater service than you realize.
Actions have consequences. You don't mess with a man's wife, kids or dogs--not necessarily in that order.
Couple good rules to live by there. More should follow it.
To the original poster I think you both could work out an agreement that makes you both happy and helps your turkey populating out.
As for shooting another man's dog... well I don't see much sense in killing a dog when the owner is the one that should be responsible.(not condoning shooting the owner either) Heck a lot of days my neghbors dogs greet me when I pull into my house. They aren't hurting anything and get along with my two just fine. I would think most forward thinking coon hunters would secure permission from all the property owners that could be affected but maybe I am off base on that. Would be what I would do if I ran dogs anyways.
Once word gets out that you trap coyotes on your property most dog runners avoid it at all costs. I mean who in their right mind would want their high dollar coon or deer hound to get caught in a trap?
Quote from: Happy on April 06, 2018, 10:11:35 PM
Actions have consequences. You don't mess with a man's wife, kids or dogs--not necessarily in that order.
Couple good rules to live by there. More should follow it.
To the original poster I think you both could work out an agreement that makes you both happy and helps your turkey populating out.
As for shooting another man's dog... well I don't see much sense in killing a dog when the owner is the one that should be responsible.(not condoning shooting the owner either) Heck a lot of days my neghbors dogs greet me when I pull into my house. They aren't hurting anything and get along with my two just fine. I would think most forward thinking coon hunters would secure permission from all the property owners that could be affected but maybe I am off base on that. Would be what I would do if I ran dogs anyways.
Happy I really think most people do try that but there's always someone around that doesn't want you on them. We (me anyway) try to stay off them at all cost I hunt WITH my dogs the range out 150-200 yards if the don't hit a track they come back to see which way I'm heading. But...if your hunting late an hit a coon (especially a bear track) that walked early no man in this world can keep up with a dog. There's many times they have treed miles from where they struck at times the bear dogs are treed over 7 miles from where I'm standing at a given time. So I have to go back to a truck driver around to the closest point to get back to the dogs. I don't want to cause any hard feelings with any one and most dog hunters just want to get there dog and leave to avoid confrontation but it happens. Heck it even happens in the national Forest hundreds of thousands of acres to hunt an they'll run right up in someone's back yard lol. Just have to hope the op's situation gets resolved in a civil like manner
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I'm tired of my cattle being run by loose dogs. If you can't control your dog, I will.
Quote from: Gamblinman on April 07, 2018, 02:00:27 AM
I'm tired of my cattle being run by loose dogs. If you can't control your dog, I will.
I never raised cow dogs I raised and trained coonhounds.
A bunch of the land I had permission to hunt had cattle on it and never had a problem. I've never seen friends dogs or my dogs ever run cattle. If a coon traveled near cattle or through they would run the coon. Most generally the cows never worried about our dogs and were use to them. Once in awhile a cow might chase the dog if it was looking for a coon track and they had calves. A cow would pummel a dog. Feedlot cattle might be a little different story they can be a little frightful of dogs,but also most generally investigate or if they run its not from dogs chasing them and never have had them break out or had to buy one.
Sometimes dogs know matter what get blamed for bad fences because farmers have to pay and explain why cows got into the neighbors fields and ate corn,beans,hay,etc.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on April 06, 2018, 03:56:42 AM
I coonhunted for most of my life also. I've heard Turkey's leave the roost when walking in with our lights getting our dogs if we were close to the roost. I also don't believe they fly far. If it was my land and I was an avid turkey hunter I would make contact with the coonhunter.
In Iowa we have the right to go get our dogs,but any reasonable guy if asked by a landowning turkey hunter would gladly stay away especially as nice and reasonable as you sound.
I'm sure they are training dogs probably for competition or could be just for the fun of it. I hunted a turkey hunters land for years without any problems,but I stayed out a couple weeks before season until it was over. Coexisting without problem.
Like another poster stated I'm sure they kill a lot of coon in season saving a lot of nest in the spring.
I use to travel to Ashland Ohio every spring to a Big bluetick coonhound competition. Loved the scenery and hunting event.
I'm sure you can co exist and both enjoy your sport with communication.
I agree we have coyote hounds around my neck of the woods and they run through out the whole year to keep their dogs in shape. I think if you approach the person nicely and explain about your turkey hunting that they will gladly try to stay away. Maybe invite him to hunt it when coon season opens.
Quote from: AC HAMMER on April 05, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
So tonight as I was letting the dog out to go the the bathroom I couldn't help but notice the sound of what seemed like 2-4 coon dogs running across my property. My property consist of roughly 100 acres with 2 fields and 2 sets of hardwoods. Now the problem with this is the dogs were running straight through where I know for a fact turkeys are roosted and have already heard them gobble earlier this week. So I have 2 thoughts/concerns and I would like to share them and see what you guys think.
1.) I understand dogs do not know where property lines are and they were just doing what they are trained to do; however I'm not real happy that the owners did not get the dogs but for about 45 minutes to an hour of them running all over my land. Should I be more reasonable and understanding or do I have the right to be mad?
2.) here in Ohio we still have about 17 days until season so the turkeys have plenty of time to settle back down, but if this were to happen a day or so before the season should I worry that the birds will relocate their roosting spot?
Just for the record I am 100% sure these are coon dogs because I took a drive around the block and saw a truck with coon cages in the back. No human was around/in the truck
Again, I would love to hear the different opinions on this. Thanks!
Yes you've got the right to be mad, dogs running loose on my property annoys me too ....when I'm still hunting for deer and someone's dogs are trailing game all through the bedding areas I've spent an hour Quietly sneaking to in the dark it irks me. Never had it happen in spring Turkey but in your example if you were setup there in twilight and the flushed the birds off roost before fly down I'd be pretty upset.
Most everything can be settled with a friendly conversation, especially in this case where it was a lone incident.
I don't think one incident will have any bit of effect on those birds unless you're hunting the next AM.
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Simple solution, put up some signs so the dogs know they can't run on your property. A good dog will respect your rights.
As far as I can tell, all the dogs I have dispatched have been wild. No collar. Lots of folks seem to dump dogs in this area. Its remote, yet fairly close to cities. I take no joy in doing it, its preservation. Either I take them out, or they take my calves. I have no turkey on this property. few deer, but I don't hunt them. Coon dogs run at night in this area and don't bother cattle, and I don't see them> You can tell the difference pretty quick what is running loose and the dog that belongs to someone.
I'm gonna add my two cents as someone who doesn't own dogs, but has some property and an inconsiderate dog owning neighbor. I don't want dogs on my property, period. I don't like their crap sitting in my yard for my kids to run through, I don't like them chasing my deer off, nor my turkey. I also don't like them harassing my chickens or in the future, my meat rabbits. I hate that every time I call the dog warden, he can't catch them on my property. So, what am I supposed to do?? Just let someone else dictate what can be done on my property? All the hard work and money I saved for so long to buy my dream house and land means nothing? I live in NY, so the ridiculous amount I pay for taxes means nothing? It's beyond frustrating!
Plain and simple, letting your dog on someone else's property when they don't want it there is purely disrespectful. It's the same attitude anti hunters have, forcing what you believe on someone else. Like your opinion matters more.
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Born and raised in a part of SC where dog hunting is a way of life for many. You name the game and I have probably been on it with dogs. Dog hunting for deer is not something I do any more and really do not do much of any type of dog hunting.
As I already stated if you cannot keep your dogs on your land then do not run them. Everyone understands the occasional mishap of a dog following game where it is not supposed to, but as stated with today's technologies it can even be avoided more than in the past. You can use any excuse you want including the age old "dogs cannot read" but a property owners rights on their property exceeds your hunting rights. People abusing this is why dog hunting of all sorts is a dying sport.
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Quote from: Terry on April 07, 2018, 10:55:44 AM
I'm gonna add my two cents as someone who doesn't own dogs, but has some property and an inconsiderate dog owning neighbor. I don't want dogs on my property, period. I don't like their crap sitting in my yard for my kids to run through, I don't like them chasing my deer off, nor my turkey. I also don't like them harassing my chickens or in the future, my meat rabbits. I hate that every time I call the dog warden, he can't catch them on my property. So, what am I supposed to do?? Just let someone else dictate what can be done on my property? All the hard work and money I saved for so long to buy my dream house and land means nothing? I live in NY, so the ridiculous amount I pay for taxes means nothing? It's beyond frustrating!
Plain and simple, letting your dog on someone else's property when they don't want it there is purely disrespectful. It's the same attitude anti hunters have, forcing what you believe on someone else. Like your opinion matters more.
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Good post!
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Quote from: Terry on April 07, 2018, 10:55:44 AM
I'm gonna add my two cents as someone who doesn't own dogs, but has some property and an inconsiderate dog owning neighbor. I don't want dogs on my property, period. I don't like their crap sitting in my yard for my kids to run through, I don't like them chasing my deer off, nor my turkey. I also don't like them harassing my chickens or in the future, my meat rabbits. I hate that every time I call the dog warden, he can't catch them on my property. So, what am I supposed to do?? Just let someone else dictate what can be done on my property? All the hard work and money I saved for so long to buy my dream house and land means nothing? I live in NY, so the ridiculous amount I pay for taxes means nothing? It's beyond frustrating!
Plain and simple, letting your dog on someone else's property when they don't want it there is purely disrespectful. It's the same attitude anti hunters have, forcing what you believe on someone else. Like your opinion matters more.
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My suggestion is to get a half dozen trail cams. Set them up in an area that is clearly on your property. These pictures are more than enough to get a conviction. If only dogs are caught on camera the owner will get warnings the first couple times before it esculatates. If Game Warden will still not do anything: go an attorney, may cost a few dollars but he will resolve.