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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Philippe on April 08, 2013, 04:06:41 PM

Title: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 08, 2013, 04:06:41 PM
I was at two local walmarts today to find no more Thugs in stock. No place on the shelves and both section managers told me they cannot order anymore! Something tells me either these were a short production run or they are totally stopping production of this shell and walmart dropped them. Anyone else have any info?
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: remmy1187 on April 08, 2013, 04:18:37 PM
Saw just a few boxes in 5's and 4's here. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: troutfisher13111 on April 08, 2013, 04:42:06 PM
I would bet it is more of a Wal-Mart policy. Turkey ammo is seasonal, and they probably don't want to order more.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: TauntoHawk on April 08, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
I just got two boxes and while im not giving out on my Hevi I would stock up on the best shooting lead Ive found in awhile if they're going away. My Wal-mart had a good stock of 6's this past saturday but we're a few weeks off our opener still.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on April 08, 2013, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on April 08, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
I just got two boxes and while im not giving out on my Hevi I would stock up on the best shooting lead Ive found in awhile if they're going away. My Wal-mart had a good stock of 6's this past saturday but we're a few weeks off our opener still.

That is the difference. Most stores in the south are almost sold out because season is half way through.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 08, 2013, 05:43:14 PM
I was in my local Wal-Mart yesterday, and there were zero Thugs in stock in 12 gauge. 
(They did have some 20 gauge #5 Thugs)

There were zero #6 Turkey loads to be found in either 12 or 20 gauge, in any brand.
Title: Re: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: RickC on April 08, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: troutfisher13111 on April 08, 2013, 04:42:06 PM
I would bet it is more of a Wal-Mart policy. Turkey ammo is seasonal, and they probably don't want to order more.
X2 they do the same thing here with dove and waterfowl loads. They stock up lightly before each season and dont restock whats sold.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 08, 2013, 06:00:47 PM
I've even called and asked Federal and nobody will say for sure or claims to know anything about these shells. I'm willing to bet it was marketing deal with walmart, once the show is gone the shells vanish.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: albrubacker on April 08, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
I can't find any here in DE. Must have check 7-8 stores! Found some 31/2" #5 in MD.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 08, 2013, 06:10:09 PM
Both my Walmarts still have a lot. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 08, 2013, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 08, 2013, 06:10:09 PM
Both my Walmarts still have a lot.

Better buy a case of those 3.5-6's, i just have that feeling this was a one time deal.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 08, 2013, 06:45:21 PM
Well 1 Walmart only has 2 of the 3.5" #6's.  The last time I was at the other one it had quite a few.  I'll have to go check.  I know there are quite a few of the other loads. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Isomaad on April 08, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
My local wally world told me today that turkey ammo period, had been deleted for the season.  I guess they figure you had better buy it before the season starts or you are just out of luck.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 08, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
I just have a feeling once that show is done these shells go away. I just find it odd that nobody at even federal can even tell me anything about the product. They act clueless when you call and ask the questions.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 08, 2013, 08:44:30 PM
BPS in Pearl, MS has 4 or 5 boxes of 3" 1 7/8 Ounce #6 Federal Strut Shok for $10 per box.
The closest thing to the Thugs, outside of Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 09, 2013, 07:36:45 PM
I bought 2 more boxes of the 3.5" 2oz #6 loads.  They got 5 boxes left.  Both Walmarts have a lot of the 3" 1 and 7/8oz #6's as well as plenty of 5's  in both 3.5" and 3". 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ChiefBubba on April 09, 2013, 08:22:08 PM
I checked all over down here and couldn't find any then found some about 2 hours away and bought all 12 boxes over 2 days. Chief.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 09, 2013, 08:24:13 PM
Get'em while ya can, they are all cleaned out around my area!
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: darn2ten on April 09, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
I talked to my walmarts sporting goods manager the other day. He says they get one big stocking order before the season and are not allowed to order more because they don't want a bunch left over after the season. He also says he has inquired, and they will be back next season.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: paintbrush on April 09, 2013, 09:14:02 PM
The wallyworld up here in my part of the country didn't get any in at all this year. Plenty of winchester and remington loads though. Their sporting goods department is pretty much a joke anyways.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 09, 2013, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: darn2ten on April 09, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
I talked to my walmarts sporting goods manager the other day. He says they get one big stocking order before the season and are not allowed to order more because they don't want a bunch left over after the season. He also says he has inquired, and they will be back next season.

Let's hope they bring them back! This time put them on more stores shelves!
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: goblr77 on April 10, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
I picked up the only two boxes of 3.5" #6s that my local Walmart had on the shelf. They had a bunch of #5s in 3" & 3.5".
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: tomstopper on April 10, 2013, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: goblr77 on April 10, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
I picked up the only two boxes of 3.5" #6s that my local Walmart had on the shelf. They had a bunch of #5s in 3" & 3.5".
same here. I have bought a lot of the #6 3.5in & all they have are size 5
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Gooserbat on April 11, 2013, 12:18:07 PM
I better go stock up we have a bunch of 3.6 #6 at the local Wally world.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: derek on April 12, 2013, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: albrubacker on April 08, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
I can't find any here in DE. Must have check 7-8 stores! Found some 31/2" #5 in MD.

Not sure what part of DE you're in but the Walmart in Elkton, MD (2min from DE) had a good stock of turkey thugs.  5s and 6s in 3 1/2" and 3" plus some 20ga loads.  Pretty good turkey selection for a walmart. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on April 12, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
It is looking like the Thugs will be a Blue/Gold box type commodity! It will be funny to see folks scramble to buy just one more box in a few years!!!
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 12, 2013, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: Daman on April 12, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
It is looking like the Thugs will be a Blue/Gold box type commodity! It will be funny to see folks scramble to buy just one more box in a few years!!!

I can agree with that. If federal knows whats good they will continue these shells even when the thugs show goes away. They should bring'em back in the old gold and blue boxes! Bet they's sell quicker than they currently do!
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 03:07:36 AM
I shot 2 3" #6 and 2 3.5" 2oz #6 Thug loads Sat from my 870 and 835.  I'll just say I wasn't that impressed.  The 3" loads shot terrible.  The 3.5" out of the Star Dot did 132.  The other one sucked. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 14, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 03:07:36 AM
I shot 2 3" #6 and 2 #.5" 2oz #6 Thug loads Sat from my 870 and 835.  I'll just say I wasn't that impressed.  The 3" loads shot terrible.  The 3.5" out of the Star Dot did 132.  The other one sucked.

Yeah yeah we know shoot hevi-7's lol :TooFunny:
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 05:28:58 AM
Quote from: Philippe on April 14, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 03:07:36 AM
I shot 2 3" #6 and 2 #.5" 2oz #6 Thug loads Sat from my 870 and 835.  I'll just say I wasn't that impressed.  The 3" loads shot terrible.  The 3.5" out of the Star Dot did 132.  The other one sucked.

Yeah yeah we know shoot hevi-7's lol :TooFunny:

Well the 7's and the magblend I shot through the Haymaker .670 in my 870 Sat sucked as well.  I can't tell you how disappointed I am in that choke.  I'm either getting my money back or going to visit Indian Creek. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Borden811 on April 14, 2013, 05:55:51 AM
So much for the ".670 is a magic constriction" eh? There are still a few boxes of thug 6s around here locally. However, thy didn't shoot all that well in my gun/chokes either. I think I'll leave them for the others guys.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 06:05:14 AM
Quote from: Borden811 on April 14, 2013, 05:55:51 AM
So much for the ".670 is a magic constriction" eh? There are still a few boxes of thug 6s around here locally. However, thy didn't shoot all that well in my gun/chokes either. I think I'll leave them for the others guys.

You got me there.  I really had high hopes for this choke.  This choke was not that good.   
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 14, 2013, 10:08:31 AM
Try running some Federal FCW HW through the Haymaker.  It might do well.

It was designed to accommodate that shell, wasn't it?

Otherwise, I couldn't justify buying / using a Haymaker, over an Indian Creek with the wad catchers and ports.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 05:18:51 PM
I got my money back for the Haymaker choke today.  Now I wished I could get my money back for the 3" Magblends.  Oh well. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: firstflight111 on April 14, 2013, 05:23:20 PM
in ohio there ever where, my walmart has 30 boxes if not more .
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: Philippe on April 14, 2013, 05:28:34 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 05:28:58 AM
Quote from: Philippe on April 14, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 03:07:36 AM
I shot 2 3" #6 and 2 #.5" 2oz #6 Thug loads Sat from my 870 and 835.  I'll just say I wasn't that impressed.  The 3" loads shot terrible.  The 3.5" out of the Star Dot did 132.  The other one sucked.

Yeah yeah we know shoot hevi-7's lol :TooFunny:

Well the 7's and the magblend I shot through the Haymaker .670 in my 870 Sat sucked as well.  I can't tell you how disappointed I am in that choke.  I'm either getting my money back or going to visit Indian Creek.

I talked to the guys at IC about the haymaker and they wouldnt swap it out because they dont own the rights the choke. Pissed me off good, didnt shoot worth a damn out of my 870 20ga. I have one for the SM but hesitant to even burn up what little bit of hevi and blends just to test it.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 14, 2013, 05:38:23 PM
I like 3" Hevi Magnum Blends.  Ship me some, and I promise I'll send you something decent in return.
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 14, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
Philippe,

The local country/farm/hardware store called Buchheits I bought my choke from has a 100% unconditional guarantee on what they sell except ammo and maybe a few other items.  I was told this along time ago that they will take back pretty much everything to keep from making a customer mad.  All you have to do is keep the receipt.  The guy at the sporting goods tried to tell me after I ask about taking the choke back if I don't like it, he said as long as you don't shoot it.  I'm like oh ok.  Now how am I going to tell if I am satisfied or not until I shoot it?  The girl at the customer service desk never ask me one question other than the fact if I wanted to exchange it or return it.  I said I want to return it for my money back.   That's why I buy from them.  Forget the guy behind the sporting good counter.  Now it's up to them what they do with that choke.  But Indian Creek always told me that any choke they make they stand behind 100%.  They make the Haymaker choke for Down-n-Dirty Outdoors.  One way or another I would be getting my money back.  I'm 19 miles from Indian Creek.  I would call them back again.  I know they wouldn't be telling me no. 
Title: Re: No more Thugs!
Post by: turkey buster on April 18, 2013, 07:41:04 PM
the walmart in Leesville,LA told me all turkey products they sale are ordered one time and sold until out. They will reorder next year what sold best this year.