Just wanted to make you all aware that there are some high end Trumpets on EBay right now that people are bidding on that have very high shipping costs. One is a Permar, and one is a Watkins. The shipping costs are $98.73 on the Permar and $77.16 on the Watkins. Just wanted to let you all know to watch for that...
Must be gonna buy them calls their own seat on an airplane to get them to the winning bidder.
That's crazy! He got some heavy hitters posted.
Depending on what insurance is with those calls, that may not be as high as one would think. I have paid close to $100 in shipping on a call because of the insurance cost.
Quote from: davisd9 on February 19, 2024, 07:23:05 AM
Depending on what insurance is with those calls, that may not be as high as one would think. I have paid close to $100 in shipping on a call because of the insurance cost.
Good point, I did not think of Insurance....
Insurance costs could possibly be some of that cost... Last I looked the Zach Farmer trumpet was around 4850.00 dollars in bids ... It's a Woodwind Wild Turkey Caller (2021) African Blackwood my only question is why is the shipping cost so high on a couple of the others ones and he's only charging 14.20 cents for the Farmer trumpet in shipping cost . Interesting anyway ... Thanks for sharing Tom... I agree that the cost of shipping is a little extreme on a couple of his listings ...
Does anyone know the guy or whose collection he is selling?
He has a bunch of high end calls for sale and zero feedback
Quote from: Sixes on February 19, 2024, 09:41:33 AM
Does anyone know the guy or whose collection he is selling?
He has a bunch of high end calls for sale and zero feedback
I don't know the guy personally, but I have been told he has been on the forum before / user name ...
nice collection he has for sale, having zero feedback sure isn't scaring people away from bidding like I would have thought
If you read the descriptions of the calls they seem AI generated. They are certainly not written by anyone who really knows turkey calls. They're kind of funny, especially the Farmer write up. "It's perfect for those who enjoy the thrill of hunting and want to bring home a turkey." :TooFunny:
Yes, agreed the write ups do not seem to be from an avid turkey hunter. Real nice collection, hope everyone that buys is happy....
The owner of the calls has someone selling for him. Neither of them knows much about calls. The original Watkins call he was trying to sell was listed wrong and I finally got it took down before someone got screwed over on it. The owner of the calls has been on here before but only as a buyer.
The Neil Cost box is "a must have for any turkey hunter" and "good for beginners and experienced hunters" alike. Act now and we'll throw in a free set of steak knives!
I asked the seller a question about the Farmer trumpet and got no response. Farmers calls usually come with a signed sheet of authenticity, that tells you the model name and materials used. I don't see it in the listing. And the pamphlet he show does not seem age appropriate for the trumpet. And as Sixes pointed out zero history. Tread carefully!!!
Quote from: Zobo on February 19, 2024, 01:20:30 PM
The Neil Cost box is "a must have for any turkey hunter" and "good for beginners and experienced hunters" alike. Act now and we'll throw in a free set of steak knives!
As long as its a Ginsu knife
I thought as soon as I saw this, SCAM came to mind. Insurance could run the cost up but.. Buyer Beware!
I am pretty sure that I bid on some of his calls, I am going to double check. I think that it 8 pot calls. 3 or 4 are good ones. I will keep y'all posted. He has a lot of calls listed.
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Quote from: bbcoach on February 19, 2024, 02:05:15 PM
I thought as soon as I saw this, SCAM came to mind. Insurance could run the cost up but.. Buyer Beware!
Something just seems out of kilter to me. I'm surprised EBAY doesn't throw a flag with no history on this kind and value of merchandise. The 2 Watkins Trumpets have significantly different shipping fees? Strange...Again, I hope it's legit and everyone is happy in the end.....
Now the new listings are gone.
it is the same thing on other items being sold now..... deer antlers , archery stuff and lumber,, that i noticed, just not only turkey calls.
I have been on ebay almost since it started and that is nothing new, ebay can charge for price of item but not charge for shipping fees so they put and outrageous shipping price up to counter the price of ebay fees, has been around almost since the beginning. Oh and you won't get the shipping cost back if you return it because Paypal and ebay do not cover them. If you see a good price and an outrageous shipping fee do not deal with that seller, they are trying to rip you, Paypal and Ebay off.
Quote from: Bedge7767 on February 19, 2024, 05:23:27 PM
Now the new listings are gone.
RED ALERT! ALL THE LISTINGS ARE GONE. MUST HAVE BEEN A SCAM. HOPE NO ONE GOT BEAT.....
Thanks Jimmy....
All of those listings were nothing more than a scam... We have been learning a lot, these past few months on the forum about these scammers ... Thanks Shannon for sharing how all these scammers operate...
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 19, 2024, 06:44:16 PM
All of those listings were nothing more than a scam... We have been learning a lot, these past few months on the forum about these scammers ... Thanks Shannon for sharing how all these scammers operate...
Amen my friend.....it's a shame that some people did buy some of the items from him.......
Looks like he sold over a thousand dollars worth of call before he pulled out.......
Quote from: Tom007 on February 19, 2024, 06:50:04 PM
Looks like he sold over a thousand dollars worth of call before he pulled out.......
Good catch, Tom.
I noticed this too and sent the seller a question about the item, which was not answered, at that point I knew I would not be bidding on anything, strike one. The paperwork for the Farmer trumpet did NOT match the trumpet being offered, strike two. And the AI wording sales pitch was so weird along with the incongruous shipping costs as you pointed out was strike three.
Nice heads up Tom!
And if it's not a scam, get you s**t together brother before you go ahead and try a sell highly desirable merchandise that you know nothing about to a very wary and sharp consumer base.
Those calls were not a scam. If it was the name I was told he has a huge collection and has been collecting calls for a long time. Story is that so many reported the sales as questionable that eBay froze his sales.
Does this look legit? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240220/cf022612b85badf30bb45ea4f12a33ae.jpg)
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One sad thing about eBay is that you used to be able to go to a person's profile and see how many accounts they had had, what their feedback was for each account they had had, and how long each account had been open for, you can no longer do that and that is a pity.
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Or this? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240220/73e424d42d74407da038cfdf20452ccd.jpg)
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Lots of assumptions in this thread. I have no idea who the guy was but I also did not bid so not much of my concern.
Yes Jim. Red flags everywhere!
Quote from: davisd9 on February 19, 2024, 08:41:51 PM
Lots of assumptions in this thread. I have no idea who the guy was but I also did not bid so not much of my concern.
Assumptions? ...Facts !
Yikes, never saw those. I only saw wood trumpets that were authentic. The location says Ringgold GA. The serious collector whose name I was told this is, he's located more than an hour away from there, this is not him. However he does have high end calls and is being mistaken for this guy
The guy you know got the guy in Ringgold to sell them for him.
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The seller is on this forum.
I do remember a few years back several Cost boxes being pulled from an auction, reported by several, only to later be validated and declared authentic and real Cost boxes. Something about Sharpie or some kind of pens being used.
Quote from: Ranger on February 19, 2024, 08:50:45 PM
I do remember a few years back several Cost boxes being pulled from an auction, reported by several, only to later be validated and declared authentic and real Cost boxes. Something about Sharpie or some kind of pens being used.
Yes I remember that too, but I think it was determined that Neil did in fact use those types of sharpies occasionally. I could be wrong on this
Quote from: davisd9 on February 19, 2024, 08:50:34 PM
The seller is on this forum.
A "newer" Farmer should come with the appropriate paperwork from Zack. The right booklet, poem sheet. Certificate of authenticity that states materials used and model type/name, year, signed by Rev. Zack. I have that stuff and mine was made years before 2021. That's a late Farmer he's "selling" and it should have ALL appropriate documentation. AND, seller needs to answer questions asked!
Quote from: Zobo on February 19, 2024, 09:01:51 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on February 19, 2024, 08:50:34 PM
The seller is on this forum.
Mine came with the appropriate paperwork from Zack. The right booklet, poem sheet. Certificate of authenticity that states materials used and model type/name, year, signed by Rev. Zack. I have that stuff and mine was made years before 2021. That's a late Farmer he's "selling" and it should have ALL appropriate documentation. AND, seller needs to answer questions asked!
Many seem to come with paperwork, maybe he bought that one second hand and it did not.
I do not know the seller. I know enough about him to think he had legitimate calls. Some had some flags on them that make you wonder, but to just outright say it was a scam, I think, is a bit much.
Quote from: davisd9 on February 19, 2024, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: Zobo on February 19, 2024, 09:01:51 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on February 19, 2024, 08:50:34 PM
The seller is on this forum.
A newer Farmer should come with the appropriate paperwork from Zack. The right booklet, poem sheet. Certificate of authenticity that states materials used and model type/name, year, signed by Rev. Zack. I have that stuff and mine was made years before 2021. That's a late Farmer he's "selling" and it should have ALL appropriate documentation. AND, seller needs to answer questions asked!
Many seem to come with paperwork, maybe he bought that one second hand and it did not.
I do not know the seller. I know enough about him to think he had legitimate calls. So had some flags on them that make you wonder, but to just outright say it was a scam, I think, is a bit much.
Well I'm not saying that, but for such high end calls you need to at least have the appearance of legitimacy. I would never bid on any of those calls as presented. But I'm very wary and cautious.
Thats a very young Farmer, it's not likely that the guy who was able to acquire it, whether the original owner or subsequent owner/s would not have the paperwork. It's too young to not have those important documents attached to the sale. So for that reason alone it's a dog.
YES, that's the guy that I bid on several pot calls a-ray whatever. I was winning bidder, but they have disappeared!!! Thanks to whoever reported his account. WHEW
Can't be too careful. Some people are greedy and don't have a conscience.
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I want to set the records straight on this thread. I decided to post this subject in an effort to bring awareness to the forum members regarding items on EBay that appeared to have discrepancies in shipping costs. I never have, or never will create or get involved with a controversial post here, It's just not me. I enjoy the forum too much. As for any assumptions or accusation's insinuated here, I think most of our good standing members here are just looking out for one another as a close-knit "Fraternity" should. I felt the "early facts" here were justification enough for someone to bring an awareness to this situation. I'm sorry if anyone thought this thread was anything other than a topic of awareness regarding call purchases. I guess in the end it proved to have Merritt as all the calls "disappeared"from the site. If these sales were legitimate, I'm sure they would have went through the auction process and everyone would have been happy. Enough on this, have a great season.....
No sweat Tom, always good to bring up something that looks fishy. Fact is in this case every single call was legit, and a lot of the sales did go through. Thousands of dollars worth. My only guess is the seller wanted to sell them without anyone knowing where they came from, which brought about more questions of course. As far as the authenticity of the calls, they were the real deal including the Cost box, which is why it went north of $2K.
I don't know what happened with the seller/buyer or why the items disappeared. Maybe the owner didn't like the final prices offered. Or maybe a change of heart. I read my post and I apologize for my part in my apparent rush to judgement.I should not have done that without knowing more.
Whoever the seller/buyer is definitely has great taste in calls. I had placed bids on 2 Kenny Morgan calls, around $100 when starting so I kept bidding. Once at $305 I stepped back. It shows now that they sold for $500 +.
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He reached a limit of sales on eBay in a given time and it stopped the other ones. That's why the other ones came down, probably not helping the matter is people reporting to ebay about the calls being fake.
Quote from: Ranger on February 20, 2024, 09:04:36 AM
No sweat Tom, always good to bring up something that looks fishy. Fact is in this case every single call was legit, and a lot of the sales did go through. Thousands of dollars worth. My only guess is the seller wanted to sell them without anyone knowing where they came from, which brought about more questions of course. As far as the authenticity of the calls, they were the real deal including the Cost box, which is why it went north of $2K.
I got one call pulled that was listed wrong. I would call that not legit.
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Trumpet call? I've had two men that are very knowledgeable tell me that the Cost box is real.
Yes
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From the seller:
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It's great to see that in the end these listings were intended to be legit. The only reason for this thread was to alert members that bid on these that discrepancies were evident in the listings that did raise Red Flags. Shipping costs varying from $98.00 to $77.00, to $10.00 for trumpets, zero seller reviews joining EBay in Feb 2024, and other discrepancies in descriptions etc. definitely led to significant concerns with many members on this forum and EBay members alike. No harm, no foul. I wish the seller future success in their sales.
Got an email from them over the weekend, been there 25 years. "....you've been an essential part of our community since you joined on 02-25-1999. What a great reason to celebrate! eBay simply would not be the same without you." Makes me feel old.