TSS VS LEAD

[Yoteduster]

Ok guys I've slinging lead at turkeys for over 40 years now and I doubt that I will change but if I did decide to try some tungsten out at around ten bucks a round which of these two would be the best punch for the bucks federal or apex I'm sure this has been dicussd on here before but I was just curious...thanks

[bbcoach]

IMO stick with lead if your shooting a 12 in 3 or 3 1/2.  TSS is the equalizer in 20 and 410.  Out to 40 yards and a little more we REALLY don't need anything else.  Federal and Apex are both good OTC TSS loads.  Handloading would allow you to fine tune if you desire.   

[fallhnt]

I use Federal in my .410.  Lead in my 12

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[howl]

If you're shooting them inside 40 with a 12 gauge, there is no reason to switch. If you want a smaller gun to do what the 12 has done, then TSS is worth the bucks.

Browning seems like the one to try.

[Hobbes]

Or....if you'd like to continue shooting a 12 but use ammo that doesn't stomp your guts out like a 3" or 3 1/2" lead turkey load but will still stomp a turkey at 40......put together 1 5/8 oz of TSS in a 2 3/4" shell.

[yelpy]

I don't know about anyone else but tss has saved my shoulder, neck and nose from being beat up. You can shoot a lighter load and kill them just as dead as you can with lead.

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[Greg Massey]

I've not tried it in the 12 gauge .. just 410 and 20 gauge ... but I've seen some good patterns with both federal and apex .... i guess i would get a box of each federal ? apex and try couple ... that's what i did with the 20 gauge .. but i'm still have several Federal HW 7 before i made the told switch to the new federal Tss or Apex...for the 20 gauge .... now with the 410 i liked the Apex little better ...

[Spurs Up]

Or....if you'd like to continue shooting a 12 but use ammo that doesn't stomp your guts out like a 3" or 3 1/2" lead turkey load but will still stomp a turkey at 40......put together 1 5/8 oz of TSS in a 2 3/4" shell.

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[Hook hanger]

Or....if you'd like to continue shooting a 12 but use ammo that doesn't stomp your guts out like a 3" or 3 1/2" lead turkey load but will still stomp a turkey at 40......put together 1 5/8 oz of TSS in a 2 3/4" shell.

This is what I would do if shooting a 12ga  may even lower the weight to 1.25oz  1 3/8oz keeps killing patterns well past what we can talk on here.

[Hobbes]

I should have added, that I killed them with lead with a 12 for better than 25 years.  So....TSS is definitely not necessary.  I've only used the last two years.  The reduction in recoil is my favorite part, but they are wicked.  I didn't go for insane patterns either, but a little more forgiving hunting pattern.

[Bowguy]

Idk guys the whole theory of a lighter kicking load seems weak to me. Idk if I've ever felt any gun go off while hunting. Some of you boys need to toughen up!! Just kidding.  Nowadays w the advent of lead sleds you won't get beat up patterning either.
I actually see the value in smaller gauges if that was your intent though.

[Gooserbat]

My answer is actually a question.  How tight of a choke does your gun have.  The federal tends to like extremely tight chokes while the Apex tends to get better results with stuff that's a little more open. 

I personally shoot 2 oz 2 3/4" handloads in my Benelli and 2oz 3" handloads and use a wad that's very similar to what Apex uses.  I use a .665 in both my guns and get patterns that are way over 300/10".  I can make it shoot tigher but I don't want a baseball sized pattern at 20 yards. 

[2eagles]

This worry about recoil surprises me. When the ducks and geese are flying, I might shoot a box of 3" shells a day. I'm talking about hunting in ND where the birds are plentiful. I used to use 3 1/2 for geese, now know they aren't necessary. I'd bet nobody worries about the kick when pulling the trigger once a day for turkeys.

[runngun]

TSS for ALL gauges for me! Except for 10 gauge which I use Nitro's.
Working on getting a 20 O/U and a 28 gauge for next year!
I already know that I will have an issue leaving My Ithaca Turkey slayer at home as it's my favorite 12 gauge.  Man I love that gun.

Have a good one
Ray

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[Chordeiles]

I use Federal.
It's not ten dollars a shot.
I can buy it locally for $32 a box.


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