What happened to hunter ethics...

[MK M GOBL]

Personally don't have much respect for someone who would "teach" a kid to turkey hunt from a blind. Bet his kid learned more from being out of the blind then yours did being in it, even though they never killed a gobbler Being a traditional, old school turkey hunter who was taught to use woodsmanship and knowledge of turkeys habits to kill them, this is just my opinion.

Sometimes we pull the trigger to soon...

Here's the rest of the story

So after the other "hunter" left our set we did a little run & gun, spotted a couple of birds and moved in. First set on them we had 3 jakes come in but from behind us and no shot opportunity. I said we need to move in on them, made the move and I hit the Cody, bird hammers back, hit it again and he's on his way. Set out a couple of DSD's quick and set down, this was Ryan's first hunt and here we are on the ground tucked up tight to a tree. Hit the call again and the bird is almost on us, I hear him spit-n-drum give him a couple of soft purrs and he is in the field and hammers it again. Ryan held still as the gobbler came in strutting, danced his last dance around the jake decoy and Ryan put him down at 15 yards. 1st bird for this young man!

I have mentored many youths throughout my time spent turkey hunting, and have taught these kids and adults many aspects of turkey hunting. Fault me if you will but I will "start" hunters out in a blind until they learn the keen eyesight of a wild turkey. I have taught them the use of a decoy (another fault of mine). I would rather have them see success and learn to love the hunt and then once they have acquired the skills to be one on one with a longbeard in the timber and face the challenge of calling a bird in range.

I take the time to teach them the biology of the wild turkey, calling skills, scouting and stewardship of the land. I also teach woodsmanship, ethics, sportsmanship and respect of our natural world. I talk about how once in Wisconsin you could not hunt a wild turkey (like when I was a kid) and due to hunters, conservationist and our state agencies and the NWTF we now have the Wild Turkey roaming the ridges and valleys of lands where I live. And I have seen these same kids grow up to become outdoorsmen and women and take the time to teach others these values and pass on the tradition.

Yes fault me if you will...

MK M GOBL

[MK M GOBL]

Here's the Wisconsin Learn to Hunt Program I have been mentoring with for the last 14 years...

Had some snow, got a bit windy and a little cold... but Rachel got her bird! At the 2016 Gays Mills Sportsmans Club Learn to Hunt Program

We had a few birds talking to us early this morning, heard the flydown and went quiet on us for a bit. Then this guy answered the "Cody Turkey Calls" and started working, we heard him strutting in and then her dad Peter seen him making his way down off a timber road and then made his way into the Dave Smith Decoys / DSD's. Rachel put him down at 14 yards! all on video.

http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,63680.0.html

MK M GOBL

[MK M GOBL]

One more from the 2nd Day of our Youth Hunt and goes down with a Double!! Wyatt & Abbey scored on these gobblers!

Was a pretty quiet morning and about 8:15 Wyatt hears a bird gobble during my calling, I asked are you sure? Yup. I hit the Cody again and there is an answer but pretty far off. Called sparingly for a bit and at one point we could hear it sounded like more than one bird. Next thing I see is 2 birds coming fast, stop strut and hit the gas again, did that all the way to the DSD's. I had Wyatt in the Double Bull with me (righty) and Abbey (lefty) in the Bale Blind with her dad Rob. I was between the two kids and we got them on the birds, the birds crossed paths and both kids did great staying on right bird / left bird. I whispered out the "are you ready" two yeses came back and 1,2,3 and DOUBLE DOWN! Birds were at 15 yards and got it filmed, great weekend!

http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,63814.0.html

MK M GOBL

[NYlogbeards]

MK M GOBL, I've got mad respect for you... Awesome to see guys taking out young hunters to expierence the woods and be able to take a bird, success is the key to get a youngster to enjoy everything about hunting. And no need to justify why you used a blind.

[owlhoot]

Personally don't have much respect for someone who would "teach" a kid to turkey hunt from a blind. Bet his kid learned more from being out of the blind then yours did being in it, even though they never killed a gobbler Being a traditional, old school turkey hunter who was taught to use woodsmanship and knowledge of turkeys habits to kill them, this is just my opinion.

Man what the heck?
You the guy in the truck

[owlhoot]

Great job Mk m
and congrats to you and all those kids   

[NYlogbeards]

Personally don't have much respect for someone who would "teach" a kid to turkey hunt from a blind. Bet his kid learned more from being out of the blind then yours did being in it, even though they never killed a gobbler Being a traditional, old school turkey hunter who was taught to use woodsmanship and knowledge of turkeys habits to kill them, this is just my opinion.

Man what the heck?
You the guy in the truck

Exactly what i thought (scratches head and wonders)

[MK M GOBL]

MK M GOBL, I've got mad respect for you... Awesome to see guys taking out young hunters to expierence the woods and be able to take a bird, success is the key to get a youngster to enjoy everything about hunting. And no need to justify why you used a blind.

Thank you! & Yes can sure tell by those kids smiles that they had fun and were out hunting!

MK M GOBL

[tomstopper]

Great job Mk m
and congrats to you and all those kids   

Great thing your doing with those youngsters

[chadly]

MK M GOBL, I think what you are doing is great.  Most people won't even tell a sole where they hunt in fear someone may find out about their spot.  You sir are doing the scouting and then taking these youngsters and parent out for an experience they will not soon forget.  I also agree with you that a level of success is needed with young kids.  Teaching them the woods, sportsmanship, and respect for the birds are all important.  But lets be a little honest.  Hearing, seeing, and even harvesting a bird is what gets them excited and makes them want to learn more and work harder for the next hunt.  My nine year old shot a bird on last Saturday on the Iowa youth opener.  I was going to post pictures as he was so excited he could not see straight.  But the bird was jake, shot out of a blind, and we used a decoy.  I was not up for the flaming so we just kept the gloating to ourselves.  Keep on doing what you are doing and the turkey hunters of the future will benefit.     

[Tunaguy]

MK M GOBL- You sound like a real gentleman. Wish you had been around when I was a kid. Congratulations on your youth hunts. What you put in is what you get out.

[tomstopper]

  My nine year old shot a bird on last Saturday on the Iowa youth opener.  I was going to post pictures as he was so excited he could not see straight.  But the bird was jake, shot out of a blind, and we used a decoy.  I was not up for the flaming so we just kept the gloating to ourselves. 

Chadly: Post those pics. Its not gloating when it comes to kids. Instead its letting all of us see the youths smiles and happiness which I think the majority of us love to see including MK M GOBL.

[Bill Cooksey]

I'm not a "blind guy," but I don't have an issue with folks using blinds if they wish. Some circumstances make it a wise choice, and that's especially true with kids. The popup blinds weren't around when my oldest started hunting, and my youngest said "if we have to sit in a blind I don't want to go" when he started tagging along at age four. So, I've never messed with them, and I don't enjoy "deer hunting for turkeys." Hope no one takes that as a shot because it isn't meant to be. It's simply a preference.

Good job on getting kids out. My youngest killed his last youth hunt longbeard on the TN youth opener. Kid had a lot of luck on youth hunts as he killed a longbeard on every youth hunt. Also killed each one before the sun cleared the trees. Last year he said "I don't see how anyone can miss a turkey," and it was said despite his having seen me miss a couple before he was old enough to shoot. Well, he missed his first shot this year. Luckily, the birds didn't panic (three two-year-olds) and he was able to shuck a fresh shell in the chamber and kill his bird.

[CMBOSTC]

This thread could be renamed as "What happened to forum ethics..."

As for me, I'll use a blind if the situation calls for it, regardless of whether my kids are with me or if I am by myself.

Chris

[skridge]

This happened this morning me and a buddy are on public land we hear one on the roost and set up for him. After he comes down he shuts up. We had another turkey that was on the opposite side of the field we had set up on answering. He was gobbling his head off searching and slowly closing the distance. Well as we were deciding on how to make our move we hear a truck start up drive between us and the turkey then go a little farther down the road and stop. About the time we were about to set up and really start working him we heard the guy shoot get back in his truck and leave. We didn't hear any calls coming from that direction. It's pathetic what some people will do to kill a turkey. They can't call so they decide to cut someone off that can call.