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Started by husker, April 05, 2016, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 12:46:41 PM I bet husker didn't see where this thread was headed when he brought up his original question....
Quote from: spaightlabs on April 06, 2016, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: husker on April 06, 2016, 01:51:16 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 12:46:41 PM I bet husker didn't see where this thread was headed when he brought up his original question....No, I certainly didn't. I'm brand new to the forum and new to turkey hunting this year. I'm just anxious to soak up as much advice as I can get. Didn't intend to touch off a powderkeg.
Quote from: tomstopper on April 06, 2016, 01:59:40 PMQuote from: husker on April 06, 2016, 01:51:16 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 12:46:41 PM I bet husker didn't see where this thread was headed when he brought up his original question....No, I certainly didn't. I'm brand new to the forum and new to turkey hunting this year. I'm just anxious to soak up as much advice as I can get. Didn't intend to touch off a powderkeg. This time of year its easy to do. I wouldn't worry about it.....
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 10:04:50 AMOkay,...we all need to take a deep breath and settle down.Although I totally agree that there are some boundaries that we should all agree on in terms of how we conduct ourselves as hunters, there are also a number of things that are not so black and white. The things that are in the "gray area" vary a bit for each of us. All of us have our own conditions and circumstances under which we must hunt. From my travels turkey hunting, I know for a fact there are folks in other parts of the country that hunt in ways that I personally prefer not to,...and they feel completely comfortable and justified in doing so. They hunt that way because, over time, they have come to the conclusion that using whatever tactics they do are needed to consistently, or even occasionally, be successful under the conditions in which they hunt.Again, as long as those tactics are legal and can be applied safely where you hunt, hunt the way you want. If I don't hunt where you do and under the conditions that you face there, it is hard for me to justify taking a position against your hunting methods, regardless of if they conform to my own "standards" or not.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on April 06, 2016, 11:37:22 AMQuote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 10:04:50 AMOkay,...we all need to take a deep breath and settle down.Although I totally agree that there are some boundaries that we should all agree on in terms of how we conduct ourselves as hunters, there are also a number of things that are not so black and white. The things that are in the "gray area" vary a bit for each of us. All of us have our own conditions and circumstances under which we must hunt. From my travels turkey hunting, I know for a fact there are folks in other parts of the country that hunt in ways that I personally prefer not to,...and they feel completely comfortable and justified in doing so. They hunt that way because, over time, they have come to the conclusion that using whatever tactics they do are needed to consistently, or even occasionally, be successful under the conditions in which they hunt.Again, as long as those tactics are legal and can be applied safely where you hunt, hunt the way you want. If I don't hunt where you do and under the conditions that you face there, it is hard for me to justify taking a position against your hunting methods, regardless of if they conform to my own "standards" or not.You're such a politician, man. I, like you, have traveled, guided and shot turkeys in more states than I have toes and fingers. I acknowledge that different places present unique sets of challenges that vary from habitat to terrain to bird density to season dates and stages of the breeding cycle when you get there. Anyone who travels to chase them is aware of those things.Now please explain the following to me:When is roost shooting ok, gobblenut? How is hunting over bait (like they do in Texas) or being allowed to hunt 100 yards away from it in Florida ethical? How is crawling towards a gobbler with a fan in front of you, knowing full well that most gobblers will see that as a confrontational act and charge the decoy ethical?These are three tactics that virtually ensure success. I could careless about someone's sensitivity or offense to my perspective because I think it's a disgrace these practices are even considered acceptable amongst our ranks. We owe it to the birds to say enough is enough and it seems the very organization and people entrusted as stewards of the resource how lost sight of that in favor or inclusion and $$$$. The wild turkey was a hell of a lot better off before all of this nonsense and turkey hunters then were more captivated with the art of killing turkeys than the bloodlust for filling tags.
Quote from: spaightlabs on April 06, 2016, 12:11:32 PMQuote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on April 06, 2016, 11:37:22 AMQuote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 10:04:50 AMOkay,...we all need to take a deep breath and settle down.Although I totally agree that there are some boundaries that we should all agree on in terms of how we conduct ourselves as hunters, there are also a number of things that are not so black and white. The things that are in the "gray area" vary a bit for each of us. All of us have our own conditions and circumstances under which we must hunt. From my travels turkey hunting, I know for a fact there are folks in other parts of the country that hunt in ways that I personally prefer not to,...and they feel completely comfortable and justified in doing so. They hunt that way because, over time, they have come to the conclusion that using whatever tactics they do are needed to consistently, or even occasionally, be successful under the conditions in which they hunt.Again, as long as those tactics are legal and can be applied safely where you hunt, hunt the way you want. If I don't hunt where you do and under the conditions that you face there, it is hard for me to justify taking a position against your hunting methods, regardless of if they conform to my own "standards" or not.You're such a politician, man. I, like you, have traveled, guided and shot turkeys in more states than I have toes and fingers. I acknowledge that different places present unique sets of challenges that vary from habitat to terrain to bird density to season dates and stages of the breeding cycle when you get there. Anyone who travels to chase them is aware of those things.Now please explain the following to me:When is roost shooting ok, gobblenut? How is hunting over bait (like they do in Texas) or being allowed to hunt 100 yards away from it in Florida ethical? How is crawling towards a gobbler with a fan in front of you, knowing full well that most gobblers will see that as a confrontational act and charge the decoy ethical?These are three tactics that virtually ensure success. I could careless about someone's sensitivity or offense to my perspective because I think it's a disgrace these practices are even considered acceptable amongst our ranks. We owe it to the birds to say enough is enough and it seems the very organization and people entrusted as stewards of the resource how lost sight of that in favor or inclusion and $$$$. The wild turkey was a hell of a lot better off before all of this nonsense and turkey hunters then were more captivated with the art of killing turkeys than the bloodlust for filling tags.Gotta be rough living in a world of gray when you see only black and white - I'd guess your blood pressure is through the roof.How do you feel about bow hunting for turkeys? Can't even begin to estimate how many pass through /run off to die elsewhere encounters there are a year nationally...I know a couple of outfitters pretty well - the number of bow-shot birds lost is substantial. Should it be banned?
Quote from: Cutt on April 06, 2016, 07:14:01 PMWhat is reaping you speak of? I feel stupid asking, but don't really pay attention to decoys and techniques as it don't intrest me, but was curious? Is it the same as Fanning where a hunter sneaks behind a fan in on Toms and shoots them? Thanks