Burris FFIII 3 or 8 MOA

[glennz]

I have the 8 and like it. Was a little concerned at first but it seems perfect for turkeys. At 20 yds I can pick a waddle and aim on it and at 40yds I just line up the dot with his head.

[sugarray]

The 3 MOA dot on my Mueller is small and hard to pick up in the bright mornings.  I have never had a problem with the 8 MOA covering too much of the turkey.

[Begbie]

Thanks, guys.

Can anyone post a few photos of the 8 or even the 3 MOA dots on the FF III. I want to order one but I'm having a difficult time choosing without seeing either - none in the shops close to me.

Cheers.

[Hayman]

I ordered a 8moa yesterday hope I like it should have it tomorrow only place I could find one was at Midways. I really thought I wanted a 3 moa but didn't have the patience to wait. Will let y'all know what I think when it arrives.

[BurrisOptics]

I shot 2 birds this year using both the FF2 w/ 4moa dot and with the new FF3 w/ 8 moa dot.  Both of them worked very well as I expected.  One thing I noticed about the 8 moa was that if you stretch the distance a bit you can quickly tell.  The dot size is very noticeable at the longer distances.  Both birds were at my longest comfortable shooting distance but with the 8 I knew it immediately.  I don't know if that's beneficial to most people but I kind of liked it.  I had no problems putting an accurate shot on either bird.  Just something to think about.

[Sand Man]

I shot 2 birds this year using both the FF2 w/ 4moa dot and with the new FF3 w/ 8 moa dot.  Both of them worked very well as I expected.  One thing I noticed about the 8 moa was that if you stretch the distance a bit you can quickly tell.  The dot size is very noticeable at the longer distances.  Both birds were at my longest comfortable shooting distance but with the 8 I knew it immediately.  I don't know if that's beneficial to most people but I kind of liked it.  I had no problems putting an accurate shot on either bird.  Just something to think about.

Interesting and a perspective I've never even thought about.  So, if I'm understanding you correctly, based off the size of the dot in relation to the turkeys head/neck you could more accurately judge his distance?

[Hayman]

Shot my first bird using the FF III with 8 moa dot yesterday morning at 25 yds. It worked great for me never used a dot type sight before I am hooked now I see no problem with the larger dot

[wvnut3]

I love my FF2 with the 4moa. This year i shot a Bird with my new FF3 8moa,  and i have to say its now my favorite. Lee

[BurrisOptics]

I shot 2 birds this year using both the FF2 w/ 4moa dot and with the new FF3 w/ 8 moa dot.  Both of them worked very well as I expected.  One thing I noticed about the 8 moa was that if you stretch the distance a bit you can quickly tell.  The dot size is very noticeable at the longer distances.  Both birds were at my longest comfortable shooting distance but with the 8 I knew it immediately.  I don't know if that's beneficial to most people but I kind of liked it.  I had no problems putting an accurate shot on either bird.  Just something to think about.

Interesting and a perspective I've never even thought about.  So, if I'm understanding you correctly, based off the size of the dot in relation to the turkeys head/neck you could more accurately judge his distance?

Yes, sir.  I knew right away that if he got much further away I was SOL.  The dot size really made that obvious.  With that said, I had no problem putting it right where I wanted it and now he's in the freezer. 

[mudhen]

I went with the 8, and I really like it!

I just couldn't see going smaller than the 4 on my FF II.

Come on 2013.....

mudhen

[gobblergls]

. Don't like the idea of obscuring the entire head on a close shot. Not saying the 8 won't do fine; it's just not my cup of tea.

Spur, turn on your ff, pick a target in your house close up.  Now double the distance and resight the same target.  You'll see that the dot remains the same size, but the target shrinks the farther you are away.  It's the far shot that the dot may obscure some of the head, not the close shot.  I've shot a 6.5 MOA Trijicon for at least 7-8 years and there's not much difference between 6.5 and 8.  An 8 MOA on shotgun ranges is no problem.  If I were shooting a rifle at 150-200 yards with an 8 MOA dot it would be.

[mudhen]

Bought a FF III a couple of weeks ago with the 3 MOA dot. Haven't used it on a turkey yet, but I am loving it at the range. No problems seeing the dot in any light conditions, including looking into the morning sun. Can't see any good reason to go with the 8. Don't like the idea of obscuring the entire head on a close shot. Not saying the 8 won't do fine; it's just not my cup of tea.

Since I don't aim at the head, and have never liked the cover method, the 8 works better for me.  Even my 4 bounces around a little bit, and a 3 would have been even smaller.

In the field, the 8 doesn't cover the head of any of my targets, so I'm not worried about it in the least.

For me, the base of the neck aim is perfect for the 8....

mudhen

[gobblergls]

Since I don't aim at the head, and have never liked the cover method, the 8 works better for me.  Even my 4 bounces around a little bit, and a 3 would have been even smaller.

In the field, the 8 doesn't cover the head of any of my targets, so I'm not worried about it in the least.

Burris Optics raised a good point which was clarified by Spuriosity.  The 8 MOA has a semi-range finder capacity if one takes into consideration how much of a turkey's neck and head is approximately 4" and the fact that 8 moa at 50 yards covers 4".  If the 8 MOA dot easily fits inside the head, the turkey is probably in range.  If the dot covers 4" of the head and neck, he is approximately 50 yards away. (of course, not all Tom's have the same size head.) I had considered buying a smaller MOA than my current 6.5 MOA Trijicon, but this discussion has firmed my decision on buying a larger MOA than 3 or 4 for my new project gun.

[decoykrvr]

I've hunted with a Nikon red dot VSD (variable size dot) scope on both 12 and 10 gauge shotguns for about 8 years.  The red dot can be adjusted for both size (1,4,6,10 MOA) and intensity or brightness.  I usually start out w/ the scope set at 1 MOA then as it becomes lighter and the small dot is harder to see move up to the 4 MOA.  I've hunted under extremely bright conditions, but have never needed to go to either the 6 or 10 MOA.  I will be really interested in hearing the actual field assessment of the larger 8 MOA vs the 3 MOA, especially from folks who have hunted with both.

[Dan Smith]

I want to bring this back to the top and get more opinions on the 3 MOA vs the 8 MOA for the FastFire III. If you haven't already stated your opinion, please do so so I can make an educated decision on which path I take.  Thanks!

Dan