Nitro Heavy Weight 4x5x7

[bird]

I gonna tell ya all a quick story and let's see if ya all pick up on it. 

When my boy was in high school a bunch of his buddies came over so they could go out for the evening. While they were waiting in the living room for JJ to finish getting dressed. One of his friends was sitting at the couch and put his feet up on my coffee table. I don't have many rules in my house but one rule I do have is keep your feet off the furniture. I asked this friend to please remove his feet in my own way and left the room. I returned to the room to find that he decided that it was more important to rest his feet on my table.  This is when I told him again to get his feet off the table and then I think the kid must of had a case of brain farts or something because he thought it would be wise to argue with me about the matter. He was immediately ejected from the house and told to never return, EVER.

The moral of the story is never go into another mans house and disrespect him by trying to bend the house rules as ultimately the man that owns the house can and will remove all guest he deems fit based on their behavior.

I do believe that Shannon has made it very clear. OG is not the place to discuss long or questionable shots as this is considered shooting and not hunting. And I see several people that feel it is OK to put their feet up on his coffee table while disrespecting his House Rules.

Very simple to understand isn't it.

Al

[Longshanks]

Thank you

[bird]

Thank you

You're Welcome..... But I think the person that truly needs to be thanked is Shannon since this is a private site and he allows us to hang out here for free to talk turkey hunting.

Al   

[coyotetrpr]

In the past I have seen members get kicked off this site and wondered how it happened. I now know how it happens. Shooting is part of hunting. If harvesting the animal is not your objective then you are not hunting, you are observing. That is simply how it is. Some poeple want to preach ethics to others and condemn them for admitting that the harvest of the animal is the main objective. To those people who say that the harvest is not important I would chalenge them to get rid of their guns and take a camera instead. Photos will last a life time and if they are going to preach to me that it is all about the hunt and nothing about the harvest, than I think if they are not hipocrits they will accept this challenge. As for the story that Bird shared, in my case I did not realize that I was in a house that did not think shooting was part of hunting. If I am asked to leave that is fine because I want to be no part of what I percieve to be politicaly correct, say the right thing and forget what is real hunting. I have learned many things from this site, some good and some bad. My time here has been fun.

[bird]

Long Distance Shooting Is Not part of turkey hunting and Does Not and Will No Longer be considered acceptable on this site.

[Javi]

Interesting discussion.

[Longshanks]

Thank you

You're Welcome..... But I think the person that truly needs to be thanked is Shannon since this is a private site and he allows us to hang out here for free to talk turkey hunting.

Al   

Thanks to Shannon as well, have allot of respect for guys putting your foot down about all this long range shooting promotion. 

[coyotetrpr]

I disagree Mr. Bird, longer shots are very much a part of many members hunts. Maybe not every time, but many of us have taken a long shot or two. My entire point in this discussion is that all of those who try to claim that the harvest of a turkey is not the ultimate goal of turkey HUNTING are full of themselves. I really enjoy my time in the turkey woods as much as the next person. However, in my final thought, if harvesting a bird is or was not the ultimate goal then why buy a tag?

[bird]

You can disagree all you want but the premise of this whole situation is that long shots and or questionable shots will no longer be acceptable on this site.

[HogBiologist]

Coyotetpr, I believe Mr Bird is not arguing your point as to what the hunt is about.  He is merely stating that conversations about shots over 40 yards (with buffer as discussed in the sticky about long shots) will no longer be accepted. 

[bird]

Coyotetpr, I believe Mr Bird is not arguing your point as to what the hunt is about.  He is merely stating that conversations about shots over 40 yards (with buffer as discussed in the sticky about long shots) will no longer be accepted. 

You sir are absolutely correct. 

[Old Gobbler]

This is not pointed to anyone , rather a broad statement to a group as a whole

You have all seen me say ,many times "what you do in the turkey woods is your business"  that's damn right , but when it is posted up on a site like this that gets thousands of turkey hunters a day browsing the site , then what you post becomes public , you better believe that people rarely post up how many times the shot at a gobbler at 69 yards and he got away , crippled , or missed -   and regrettably we are just human -we make mistakes - and it happens

I've watched this issue more closely than many of you can possibly realize for years now - I've tried to remain neutral and unbiased , but Its simply gone way to far this time to ignore -If some people want me to spell out the the hard reality of the matter , here it is --- Publicly  talking or promoting Taking long shots at real gobblers in the woods, no matter what you are using is a low brow, and a taboo subject - If someone is engaged in that activity , keep it to yourself we don't want to hear or see it here anymore - post up some 40 yard patterns , talk about a built in "fudge factor " in case something goes wrong and if you want use your imagination of what the effectiveness is beyond that it shouldn't be hard to figure out how well it will work
 
People are focusing too much effort into shooting equipment and simply just ignoring turkey calling and being a good woodsman