I've owned a Mossberg 835 and a youth model bantam pump for 20 years. My son even killed a number of nice bucks in Ohio with the 20 gauge. Both were fantastic guns, especially for the money. When my son turned 16 I bought him a 935. We had a lot of trouble with that gun cycling shells. Kinda turned me off of mossberg. I got burned this year when I bought my grandsons an escort 410 youth. It's been gone for "repairs" for 7 months. Knowing that the subguage mossbergs are manufactured in Turkey, it makes me not even want to consider a mossberg. I'm not trying to stones at this post. Just my honest opinion. Thank you