How bad do I sound?

[Sir-diealot]

This room makes it sound much louder than is was but other than that how does it sound? Not sure I was getting good roll over. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trumpet-practice-3?si=b0ba96e1303e463aaab1ecfff425abe8&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Correct track this time for second trumpet. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/2023_02_07_00_36_44-mp3-1?si=ad9d72e9b3d24d1ab6c359de533a4cbc&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[Gobbler-one]

I'm not a competition caller, I call turkeys. My opinion, you sound pretty good and could definitely call up birds with that. Good luck with the practice.

[Sir-diealot]

I'm not a competition caller, I call turkeys. My opinion, you sound pretty good and could definitely call up birds with that. Good luck with the practice.

Thanks, I sure hope so.

[ol bob]

In the spring a cluck and yelp, are all you need, don't over call.

[guesswho]

#2 doesn't sound like a trumpet.   Do you have the right soundfile attached?

[davisd9]

That second sound file sounds like a box or scratch box, if it is a trumpet than the calls you are using sound completely different.

I am going to be honest with you as I always want people to be honest with me. This is meant to help and not be critical. You really do not have good air control. I am guessing you are keeing and trying to transition to a yelp but you do not have the control for it. If we were hunting together I would want to do the calling. You can tell that you may be getting there but air control is not quite there. You need to be able to start and stop the air to make the roll over and get sharpness in clucks. I am not a competitive caller nor have no desire to be but I do listen to real turkeys a lot and I would pick you out as a hunter trying to run a trumpet with no issue if we were in the same property. If this offends you I apologize but I am trying to help as most are just too nice to really get a person's calling improved and if you are like me then that is what you want, improvement.

[Sir-diealot]

#2 doesn't sound like a trumpet.   Do you have the right soundfile attached?

You're right, I uploaded wrong track, will add proper one soon.

[Sir-diealot]

That second sound file sounds like a box or scratch box, if it is a trumpet than the calls you are using sound completely different.

I am going to be honest with you as I always want people to be honest with me. This is meant to help and not be critical. You really do not have good air control. I am guessing you are keeing and trying to transition to a yelp but you do not have the control for it. If we were hunting together I would want to do the calling. You can tell that you may be getting there but air control is not quite there. You need to be able to start and stop the air to make the roll over and get sharpness in clucks. I am not a competitive caller nor have no desire to be but I do listen to real turkeys a lot and I would pick you out as a hunter trying to run a trumpet with no issue if we were in the same property. If this offends you I apologize but I am trying to help as most are just too nice to really get a person's calling improved and if you are like me then that is what you want, improvement.

Never offended by polite criticism, it is how we learn. I was trying for a kee kee run, yelping I tried separate as well as clucks. This was the second trumpet, I had put in the wrong track. By the way, I have hard a very hard time with the draw, the way I undersand it you go from the draw, then drop your jaw from there to get the second note, I have a real problem with that as my jaw is already pretty much all the way down because of my under bite and simply put I have big lips. I do feel I have gotten better but after 3 years I think I should be much better than I am. I have followed all the videos, tried the twizzle stick way of practicing and am honestly frustrated with myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/2023_02_07_00_36_44-mp3-1?si=ad9d72e9b3d24d1ab6c359de533a4cbc&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[silvestris]

There are questions that one should never ask, lest that others may answer.

[Zobo]

Your clucks sound a bit hollow, need to sharpen and shorten those which is easier said than done and requires subtle restraint. Control was mentioned and that is what your working on. But your kee kees  would definitely call in birds in the fall, absolutely no doubt. What are you calling with?

[davisd9]

That second sound file sounds like a box or scratch box, if it is a trumpet than the calls you are using sound completely different.

I am going to be honest with you as I always want people to be honest with me. This is meant to help and not be critical. You really do not have good air control. I am guessing you are keeing and trying to transition to a yelp but you do not have the control for it. If we were hunting together I would want to do the calling. You can tell that you may be getting there but air control is not quite there. You need to be able to start and stop the air to make the roll over and get sharpness in clucks. I am not a competitive caller nor have no desire to be but I do listen to real turkeys a lot and I would pick you out as a hunter trying to run a trumpet with no issue if we were in the same property. If this offends you I apologize but I am trying to help as most are just too nice to really get a person's calling improved and if you are like me then that is what you want, improvement.

Never offended by polite criticism, it is how we learn. I was trying for a kee kee run, yelping I tried separate as well as clucks. This was the second trumpet, I had put in the wrong track. By the way, I have hard a very hard time with the draw, the way I undersand it you go from the draw, then drop your jaw from there to get the second note, I have a real problem with that as my jaw is already pretty much all the way down because of my under bite and simply put I have big lips. I do feel I have gotten better but after 3 years I think I should be much better than I am. I have followed all the videos, tried the twizzle stick way of practicing and am honestly frustrated with myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/2023_02_07_00_36_44-mp3-1?si=ad9d72e9b3d24d1ab6c359de533a4cbc&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Stopping/starting air is what makes yelps. No need for jaw dropping. Air control. Trumpets are a musical instrument. Treat them like one

[paboxcall]

No need for jaw dropping. Air control.

[crow]

No need for jaw dropping. Air control.

There is a Ted Pete Peters youtube where he talks about this method, he alternates between sipping water thru a straw and drawing air thru the trumpet, Try His method
I think on the Lewis Stowe youtube He also demonstrates the jaw drop vs straw method of air draw.


I think davisd9 did a great job on a polite critique.
I'm with ol Bob, for right now, especially on sound files drop the Kees and focus on good sharp clucks and your yelps.

In practice for an air control drill (like running scales for any musical instrument) hold the low note as long as you can, the do the same for the high note, do this a couple times and then run a string of yelps and see how they sound.

In a phone call Billy Buice said 10-15 min a day is way more productive than a half hour  twice a week.
if you put in some serious daily practice you should get this by spring.

[Sir-diealot]

There are questions that one should never ask, lest that others may answer.

If you never ask a question of those that know more how are you to ever learn correctly? 

Forget stringing all that stuff together. Your cluck and yelp alone, are good enough to fool Turkeys. Stick with single clucks and 3 or 4 note yelps till you get more cofidence. Yes, you sound like someone " kissing and sucking" on a trumpet, but so does most everyone else who will comment on this thread. You will be amazed how much better that will sound at a distance, in the woods. Hunt um up.

Thank you for the kind words. 2 or 3 years ago about a month before the season just after a snow storm I called in 3 or 4 toms using the first trumpet,  I just really feel I should be showing more improvement. I truly wish I could just sit along with somebody that knows what they are doing and get some instruction one on one I feel it would help.

Your clucks sound a bit hollow, need to sharpen and shorten those which is easier said than done and requires subtle restraint. Control was mentioned and that is what your working on. But your kee kees  would definitely call in birds in the fall, absolutely no doubt. What are you calling with?

The first the maker has asked me not to mention his name (Who can blame him with how I sound?) the Second is a Pete Peters "Boss" call made from Brazilian Kingwood.

That second sound file sounds like a box or scratch box, if it is a trumpet than the calls you are using sound completely different.

I am going to be honest with you as I always want people to be honest with me. This is meant to help and not be critical. You really do not have good air control. I am guessing you are keeing and trying to transition to a yelp but you do not have the control for it. If we were hunting together I would want to do the calling. You can tell that you may be getting there but air control is not quite there. You need to be able to start and stop the air to make the roll over and get sharpness in clucks. I am not a competitive caller nor have no desire to be but I do listen to real turkeys a lot and I would pick you out as a hunter trying to run a trumpet with no issue if we were in the same property. If this offends you I apologize but I am trying to help as most are just too nice to really get a person's calling improved and if you are like me then that is what you want, improvement.

Never offended by polite criticism, it is how we learn. I was trying for a kee kee run, yelping I tried separate as well as clucks. This was the second trumpet, I had put in the wrong track. By the way, I have hard a very hard time with the draw, the way I undersand it you go from the draw, then drop your jaw from there to get the second note, I have a real problem with that as my jaw is already pretty much all the way down because of my under bite and simply put I have big lips. I do feel I have gotten better but after 3 years I think I should be much better than I am. I have followed all the videos, tried the twizzle stick way of practicing and am honestly frustrated with myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/2023_02_07_00_36_44-mp3-1?si=ad9d72e9b3d24d1ab6c359de533a4cbc&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Stopping/starting air is what makes yelps. No need for jaw dropping. Air control. Trumpets are a musical instrument. Treat them like one

Only musical instrument I have ever owned was a B.C. Rick Warlock Bass Guitar I don't think plucking this will work.   I will try without trying to move the jaw, thanks.

No need for jaw dropping. Air control.

Thanks.

[Sir-diealot]

No need for jaw dropping. Air control.

There is a Ted Pete Peters youtube where he talks about this method, he alternates between sipping water thru a straw and drawing air thru the trumpet, Try His method
I think on the Lewis Stowe youtube He also demonstrates the jaw drop vs straw method of air draw.


I think davisd9 did a great job on a polite critique.
I'm with ol Bob, for right now, especially on sound files drop the Kees and focus on good sharp clucks and your yelps.

In practice for an air control drill (like running scales for any musical instrument) hold the low note as long as you can, the do the same for the high note, do this a couple times and then run a string of yelps and see how they sound.

In a phone call Billy Buice said 10-15 min a day is way more productive than a half hour  twice a week.
if you put in some serious daily practice you should get this by spring.

I bought these online right after he posted that video, has helped for sure.  Yes David was very polite. I will drop them. One problem having even with all the videos is understanding how to get to each note for some reason it's not clicking in my tiny little excuse for a brain. I can get that high for the kee kee but I'm not sure if that's what I'm supposed to do to get to the other for the Yelp, It wouldn't think so. Same thought process for shooting archery, better shoot 15 minutes of good shots than an hour and a half of not so good shots. Thank you much for the reply, I can use all the help I can get.

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