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Started by JohnSouth22, April 11, 2021, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 11, 2021, 03:41:30 PMQuote from: JohnSouth22 on April 11, 2021, 01:18:28 PMSeems the complaining is constant on here. People speaking of the old days when grand pappys spot on the wma where you used to hear 10 birds now only hear one or two. Complaining that the YouTube boys have "ruined" your state. That people can shoot too far and people shouldn't use decoys. That you have to wake up at 3AM to get the gate you want. At the end of the day the killers are still gonna kill and you'll find something to point your finger at as to why you can't. People want to kill turkeys then won't get up at 3 to be at the gate. It comes down to nut cutting time and there aren't many people that wanna cut nuts no more.Boy that was a mouthful. Mind you now these are just my opinions. I think grouping hunters together in one category of complainers is a mistake. Some are lazy and have taken hunting turkey's for granted. Most have an its all about me attitude. They started hunting during the boom in turkey populations. To say they were spoiled with a gluttony of wild turkeys is probably an understatement. Grand pappy's favorite spot probably did hold 10 gobblers. For guys my age and older grand pappy was lucky if he was even able to find a gobbler or for that matter be able to legally hunt wild Turkey's. Now when the hunting gets tough most in the spoiled crowd don't what to do so they complain. Some on the other hand see what is happening on a broader scale. They are concerned and see a need for change. They don't want things to be like when their Grand pappy grew up. Killers gonna kill! I think that statement might have aged you a bit. I think what gets lost in all this is a lot of hunters , and I bet this is mostly separated by age groups, are just out to kill. Most miss out on the greatest part of hunting this fine bird. I know I'll be stepping on toes with this next statement. You don't get this from sitting in a gobbler lounger behind a flock of decoys eating snacks and sleeping until a tom comes running into your spread or by reaping. Effective tactics for sure. Maybe too effective. For some it's probably the only way they can participate. I can't bring myself to understand why an able bodied person would choose to use these tactics more than just a couple times. I don't hunt open areas. My opinions are based on the areas I like to hunt. Grasslands and open country or not on my list of destinations. I have used decoys in my younger days during a period when I felt the need to validate myself as a turkey hunter. I've lain in wait for a Tom to come running to spread without calling. I felt empty inside compared to gobblers I shot coming to the call. There was no feeling of accomplishment. As I matured as a turkey hunter I knew how I needed to hunt them. I'm not claiming all hunters need to hunt how I hunt. I feel you're missing something great if you don't. Again my opinion! I think the need for all turkey hunters to step back and see what is happening on the broader scale is definitely in order. Ga is likely changing their starting date for the next couple years. Sucks for me as a northern boy. The Ga start date will likely coincide with the start date in my home state. Also the start date will be around the time poison oak starts to leaf. I can't for the life of me hunt later in the season in southern states without coming home with a nice rash from that stuff. Thinking of more than myself I say let's see how it goes.
Quote from: JohnSouth22 on April 11, 2021, 01:18:28 PMSeems the complaining is constant on here. People speaking of the old days when grand pappys spot on the wma where you used to hear 10 birds now only hear one or two. Complaining that the YouTube boys have "ruined" your state. That people can shoot too far and people shouldn't use decoys. That you have to wake up at 3AM to get the gate you want. At the end of the day the killers are still gonna kill and you'll find something to point your finger at as to why you can't. People want to kill turkeys then won't get up at 3 to be at the gate. It comes down to nut cutting time and there aren't many people that wanna cut nuts no more.
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Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 11, 2021, 05:26:03 PMQuote from: Paulmyr on April 11, 2021, 03:41:30 PMQuote from: JohnSouth22 on April 11, 2021, 01:18:28 PMSeems the complaining is constant on here. People speaking of the old days when grand pappys spot on the wma where you used to hear 10 birds now only hear one or two. Complaining that the YouTube boys have "ruined" your state. That people can shoot too far and people shouldn't use decoys. That you have to wake up at 3AM to get the gate you want. At the end of the day the killers are still gonna kill and you'll find something to point your finger at as to why you can't. People want to kill turkeys then won't get up at 3 to be at the gate. It comes down to nut cutting time and there aren't many people that wanna cut nuts no more.Boy that was a mouthful. Mind you now these are just my opinions. I think grouping hunters together in one category of complainers is a mistake. Some are lazy and have taken hunting turkey's for granted. Most have an its all about me attitude. They started hunting during the boom in turkey populations. To say they were spoiled with a gluttony of wild turkeys is probably an understatement. Grand pappy's favorite spot probably did hold 10 gobblers. For guys my age and older grand pappy was lucky if he was even able to find a gobbler or for that matter be able to legally hunt wild Turkey's. Now when the hunting gets tough most in the spoiled crowd don't what to do so they complain. Some on the other hand see what is happening on a broader scale. They are concerned and see a need for change. They don't want things to be like when their Grand pappy grew up. Killers gonna kill! I think that statement might have aged you a bit. I think what gets lost in all this is a lot of hunters , and I bet this is mostly separated by age groups, are just out to kill. Most miss out on the greatest part of hunting this fine bird. I know I'll be stepping on toes with this next statement. You don't get this from sitting in a gobbler lounger behind a flock of decoys eating snacks and sleeping until a tom comes running into your spread or by reaping. Effective tactics for sure. Maybe too effective. For some it's probably the only way they can participate. I can't bring myself to understand why an able bodied person would choose to use these tactics more than just a couple times. I don't hunt open areas. My opinions are based on the areas I like to hunt. Grasslands and open country or not on my list of destinations. I have used decoys in my younger days during a period when I felt the need to validate myself as a turkey hunter. I've lain in wait for a Tom to come running to spread without calling. I felt empty inside compared to gobblers I shot coming to the call. There was no feeling of accomplishment. As I matured as a turkey hunter I knew how I needed to hunt them. I'm not claiming all hunters need to hunt how I hunt. I feel you're missing something great if you don't. Again my opinion! I think the need for all turkey hunters to step back and see what is happening on the broader scale is definitely in order. Ga is likely changing their starting date for the next couple years. Sucks for me as a northern boy. The Ga start date will likely coincide with the start date in my home state. Also the start date will be around the time poison oak starts to leaf. I can't for the life of me hunt later in the season in southern states without coming home with a nice rash from that stuff. Thinking of more than myself I say let's see how it goes. Oh boy. Here we go. Again. Sent from deep in the woods where the critters roam.
Quote from: tha bugman on April 11, 2021, 05:21:51 PMKill or no kill, I feel blessed everyday I can get up and be in the woods to hear it wake up!