Regardless , how it all come out for Rem, i will still continue to support them in buying Rem 870 or whatever, because they are trying to support us hunters. IMO.. My first Remington 1100/12 ga. cost me 225 dollars brand new out the door.. I still have that gun and it has never failed to go bang, nor has any of my other Remington's .. So lets give them a chance .. IMO