When will they start making guns again? I need a new Wingmaster.
I saw or read somewhere (can't recall where) that they should be up and running before hunting season and the 870s were to be one of the first to be brought back to production. So they better hurry if they are going to meet their expectations.....
They're already in stores.
Quote from: Deputy 14 on July 22, 2021, 06:50:39 PM
They're already in stores.
Which ones? I'd like to find one.
Quote from: WW on July 23, 2021, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: Deputy 14 on July 22, 2021, 06:50:39 PM
They're already in stores.
Which ones? I'd like to find one.
I saw a couple models of 870's in budsgunshop.com last night.
I'm a Remington fan and I must say the 700's and 870's looked poor quality like they don't have quality control or they don't know what the word means. Form and fit just isn't there. :z-twocents:
Here's a youtube video, from Gun News in 5 minutes or less, that I just found online. It has July 23rd for the date. Looks as if Scheels has the new 870 and 700's. Seems the fit and finish is being discussed and it isn't pretty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zg07o4BprE
Anyone know who's manufacturing them?
According to the video, they are renaming the company Rem arms and they are still manufactured in Ilion, NY. Roundhill Group LLC is the new owner according to this article https://www.fox5ny.com/news/remington-gun-factory-reopening-in-upstate-new-york
The video on YouTube makes me disappointed. It's like they took leftover stocks and slapped them on new receivers. Maybe not but specs are off for sure. I can't see how anyone would think putting guns like that on shelves was a good thing. I hope the new owners of Remington see this video and make some changes.
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Sad to see, but i cant say i expected any better. The fit and finish is terrible on the metal and wood of those guns. Im local to the Ilion NY plant, and hate to say it but they will flop again.
Model 700 or the 870 sure didn't look very good at all... another big mistake in my opinion on these guns ..
From what everybody says I am lucky I got my 11-87 when I did (very early 90's) I am told they are not made very well anymore and that they do not handle TSS well at all. I am told the older ones like mine handle it just fine though, hope the later is true, I intend to get 5 boxes of Apex #8's pretty soon and already bought the Indian Creek Choke everyone says works so well with them.
Here's a follow up to the 870 vs Mossy, fit and finish at a Scheels store in Minnesota. This was uploaded today, the 26th of July. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB2wHFGPSqM
Rem Arms responds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fdD_m5_pnw IMO, it seems that Rem Arms has utilized some previous parts from Remington to put out their latest production runs. Trying to make some money at the expense of fit and finish issues and hoped they wouldn't get caught doing this. Seems to me QUALITY isn't a top priority or their QUALITY Dept and/or Management needs a GOOD shake up. If they allow fit and finish issues to slip through, what will be next (poor machining, bad receivers, bent barrels). Make a quality product at a fair price and you will have customers for LIFE. My 2 cents.
I've been a Remington fan since 1972 when I bought my first 1100. I must say that the last ten years or so quality went South for profit I guess. I still use my 20ga 1100 and it still is a deadly bird gun. It is the Special Field model with 21"barrel and English stock, made in the 80's. I have an 1187 12ga which I still use from 1994. My turkey gun is an 870 Turkey/Predator and is deadly on turkeys with that short barrel is sweet in a set-up. Haven't really trimmed brush and branches at all. But the guns coming out of Illion NY lately and for the last 10 or 15 years are unrecognizable as Remington products. They have to get their act together. It's like no craftsmanship and no pride in their product. I realize that an 870 that has the soul and pizazz from the 70's might cost 800 or 900 dollars today but let's face it those guns from that era had an aura and mystique about them like the old hump backed Brownings. Well my :z-twocents: worth.
I live not far from the factory. Many friends that i have worked there. It`s no longer the Remington we knew years ago. Many good craftsmen have passed threw them doors. With these investment groups it`s all about the profits. Sad thing is if the quality isn`t there the profits won`t come. That said it`s a two way street some folks want the cheapest firearm they can buy. Then when it`s a piece of crap they don`t realize they bought on the cheap. Quality cost.
Regardless , how it all come out for Rem, i will still continue to support them in buying Rem 870 or whatever, because they are trying to support us hunters. IMO.. My first Remington 1100/12 ga. cost me 225 dollars brand new out the door.. I still have that gun and it has never failed to go bang, nor has any of my other Remington's .. So lets give them a chance .. IMO
On a side note - Tuesday afternoon, in Waterbury Superior Court in
Connecticut, Remington offered to pay $33 million dollars to some of the
victim's families in the Sandy Hook, CT school shooting from 2012.
This is to settle their lawsuit over how the company marketed the
firearm to the public.
The settlement offers were filed a day after a judge denied Remington's
request to dismiss the lawsuit.
You can put "Remington offers 33 million" into the search engine
and you'll see it.
This won't help gun makers, or the 2nd amendment.
Quote from: Greg Massey on July 29, 2021, 03:13:04 PM
Regardless , how it all come out for Rem, i will still continue to support them in buying Rem 870 or whatever, because they are trying to support us hunters. IMO.. My first Remington 1100/12 ga. cost me 225 dollars brand new out the door.. I still have that gun and it has never failed to go bang, nor has any of my other Remington's .. So lets give them a chance .. IMO
That 1100 is a nice firearm. Mine is from the late 60`s and a very nice product and isn`t going anywhere. Remington was big for the economy here and I wish the best for them because it will benefit all of us.
As stated earlier Remingtons were the guns to have good quality and all. I have a 1100 LW 20ga. my grandfather bought me around 1972 it will get passed down to my grandson when I'm gone. It is light weight and if they still made them with the same quality, 3" shell, and screw in choke I would have several. If they could duplicate the same now they would have no problem selling them and give the benelli's a run for the money