THP / Fine / Warden

[Greg Massey]

Ted with Hunting Public was fined over the weekend while videoing another one of The Hunting Public guys in Mississippi. Ted was only videoing and didn't have any calls / shells or gun while videoing on public ground.

In the past you didn't need a hunting license while videoing someone else hunting in Miss, but a new law passed and now you do...Public Ground

They posted a video about it on YouTube ....

Someone from Miss might shed more information about the new law...

This is NOT A BASHING POST about THP.... It's about making people aware of the NEW LAW...

[KHNC]

Wow, what a stupid law. That is worse than needing a permit to video on National Forest land in the west , in some states.

[Dtrkyman]

Lots of areas have "participation" laws, if you accompany and are involved in the hunt you need a license.

Looked like a simple mistake on their part, as well as a money grab for game and fish!

On Illinois special draw hunts you have to have the actual permit, nobody can come along hunting license or not!

Bit of an over reach by game and fish as usual!


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[Guskie]

I am fully in support of this. Good job officer and MDWFP.

[deadbuck]

I watched their confession video and one guy thought it would be a minor fine. WRONG! $500 fine for not having a license in MS. They give these tickets out regularly at the spillways for people fishing with no license. I got a fine for not having a plug in my gun turkey hunting in Missouri once. Stupid law in my opinion but I paid $150 and moved on. Break the rules and pay the fine, thats the way it works.

[joey46]

Some will be ecstatic since it was THP. If it was someone trying to film their grandkid's first hunt maybe not so much. What a hoot🙄

[Dtrkyman]

Getting a ticket for hunting without a license while not hunting is stupid, regardless of who gets the ticket!


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[Greg Massey]

I disagree somewhat, I see all the time States advertising come to our state and enjoy the great Outdoors.

SO this is just my opinion, but if a youth / friend or wife wants to come along just to see what hunting is all about then they need a license if they company the other person who is hunting.

I do realize this is not in every state.  Just some states

Regarding videoing, ( almost ) everyone these days is capable of videoing hunts or whatever, with a cell phone ...

I just feel this is an overreach in some states... Another way to get funds... IMO

[joey46]

IMO - any State that does this is a money grab pure and simple.  Boo!

[bbcoach]

I can see this as a 1st Amendment challenge.  If this is fought by THP, they could contend that there wasn't any intent to hunt (no ammo, no gun in hand, no calls on the person) only camera (media or citizen taking video or pictures on Public or Private land) which does not constitute any hunting whatsoever and that doesn't require a hunting license.  Not sure how far THP wants to take this or if a Lawyer may take this Pro Bono to prove a point of Law.  Something to consider.   

[hpo]

^More of this against government overreach!

[doublespurs21]

who says that he wouldn't borrow his buddy's gun to try and shot a turkey,,,,,,,,,

[bbcoach]

who says that he wouldn't borrow his buddy's gun to try and shot a turkey,,,,,,,,,

Legally to be convicted, you have to be caught in the act with gun in hand unless he opened his mouth (5th amendment, Right to remain silent and not answer any questions without lawyer present) or the warden can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.  Seems he has plenty of witnesses to back up his story.  What evidence does the warden have, other than circumstantial and a NEW law that hasn't been challenged. 

[Happy]

While I may not be a fan of the internet hunters, I don't rejoice in their screwups. Well, you have to be a pretty obvious dbag for me to find any joy in it anyways. Many states have a "participating in the hunt" rule. Sounds like they missed it and got fined for it. Pay the fine and learn from it. That's life. Heck, I almost got a $250.00 fine for not having a confirmation # of a deer i killed and checked in written on my license. I showed the lady a screenshot of the confirmation # on my phone as well as a picture of the deer. The dates matched up and she double-checked my harvest records. Technically, she was right. It is supposed to be written on the license once it's issued. If I wasn't so suave and good-looking, it probably wouldn't have gone so well. We wound up exchanging numbers and swapping hunting pictures for a bit before she left. Some of these new officers (especially women) have to try to assert their authority a bit. It am sure it's a little intimidating being a female officer. Best bet it to try and follow the rules with the best intents and usually that shows through. Not always though.

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[Guskie]

Please correct me if I'm wrong here. The MS Commission of Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks recently (2022?) created a new regulation to limit the number of non-resident hunters on public lands due overcrowding and pressure on the turkey population. The new regulation requires non-residents to apply for a limited public land permit. The purpose of the regulation was to reduce the number of non-residents using public lands and harvesting turkeys.

Social media played no small part in creating the need to limit non-resident hunters.

A social media influencer applied for a limited public land hunting permit, which means to hunt legally they agreed to abide by the State of Mississippi's regulations. It clearly states in the Frequently Asked Questions section of the MDWFP website that "Drawn non-resident hunters may be accompanied by one licensed guest, aged 16 years or older". Pretty cleverly written! 

Now a social media influencer has been ticked by a wildlife officer for breaking a regulation that had to be created because of overuse, largely brought on by social media. Furthermore they either did not read the hunting regulations or they chose to ignore them.

No, I do not feel bad for them, nor o I feel that this is government overreach. I didn't watch the video, so maybe I'm making assumption here.