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Turkey Call Classifieds / Re: Padgett trumpet

Last post by crdierlam - Today at 08:42:51 AM

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#52

General Forum / Re: 20 gauge lead load

Last post by Davyalabama - Today at 08:42:37 AM

Gooserbat:  For what it's worth if I were to shoot lead again out of a 20 gauge it would be nickel plated and either #6.5 or #7 in as heavy as payload as possible.

     Help me understand why nickel and 6.5 or 7's, I am generally running #4 lead, I like the ummph.    I'm not trying to get in an argument, I'm learning about nickel.

#53

Turkey Call Classifieds / Re: Padgett trumpet

Last post by SwampRooster17 - Today at 08:41:25 AM

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#54

Box Calls / Re: What Style Box(es) Do You ...

Last post by crdierlam - Today at 08:39:22 AM

I have a Matt Van Cise short box with me every day. I also have a Marlin Watkins longbox that comes most days. The short box fits in my vest a little easier so its always there. I also just picked up a Fulkerson hen box at UNICOI and it will be placed in the rotation once I get it figured out a little bit better. Its my first hen box so there is definitely a learning curve.

#55

Turkey Call Classifieds / Padgett trumpet

Last post by NYturkey - Today at 08:38:50 AM

*****SOLD*****Argentine Lignum Vitae trumpet with PPSU mouthpiece by Ricky Padgett, his short version. New condition. Asking $sold shipped




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#56

General Forum / Re: 20 gauge lead load

Last post by Dtrkyman - Today at 08:37:55 AM

I am sure the lead has been ignored in recent years but 1 1/4oz in 20ga has been around forever!

I don't think folks were on the sub gauge trend until hevi shot showed up and then heavyweight, but even those were loaded with 1 1/4 oz.

Wonder what kind of shot volume is max with a roll crimp?  Not any higher volume wads most likely at this time.

The 15gcc is about the price of TSS a year ago, develop a 7.5 or 8 shot in that would be a potential winner, in that shot they should rival penetration of TSS 9.5 maybe?

Number 7 hevi 12 gcc in a polished round pellet like the old Winchester xtended range has potential as well.

I would consider loading lead if it were legit 40 yard load but unless it gives me wiggle room I will bite the bullet and pay for TSS!  It's not too bad in the grand scheme of things and gives me confidence when I pull the trigger!


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#57

General Forum / Re: If you could hunt 1 day wi...

Last post by Cut N Run - Today at 08:26:36 AM

My best friend, E.P..  He just moved up to Virginia.  We didn't get the chance to hunt together once last year.  Whenever we hunt together, one or both of us is going to get a crack at a grown gobbler. He was my turkey hunting mentor and if I can kill half the turkeys he has, I'll be doing great. We've been friends for 55 years and almost had too much fun.

Jim

#58

Turkey Hunting Tips ,Strategies & Methods / Re: Never Fail Terrain Feature...

Last post by Dhamilton1 - Today at 08:25:19 AM

Never fail and turkeys ----- hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, those things don't go together.

I'm glad I was able to give you some comical relief.

Still learning even after 5 years but comments like this show why people don't ask for help or insight and don't want to be one these forums.


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#59

Turkey Hunting Tips ,Strategies & Methods / Re: Never Fail Terrain Feature...

Last post by Dhamilton1 - Today at 08:20:16 AM

I wouldn't use "never fail" and "turkey hunting" in the same sentence.

A place a couple gobblers are hanging everyday might be silent at daybreak for a day or two, or more, depending on the breeding season stage. Or all heck might break loose for several days straight and you think you hit the spring turkey gold mine of locations...until they clam up again.

Find where the hens want to be, where there is good nesting cover nearby, gobblers won't be far.

Thank you.


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#60

General Forum / Re: 20 gauge lead load

Last post by Gooserbat - Today at 08:19:34 AM

This entire thread proves that a lot of people don't understand what tss and it's concept is.  I could try to explain it but in a nutshell it pattern density not just heavier than lead shot.  Never will 1 1/2 oz of #6 lead (336 pellets,) be as dense as 1 5/8 oz of tss #9 (594 pellets). That's what makes it work. 

After spending the last 6 years on TSS load development I think I understand it better than your average joe. I think what this thread has really proved is that TSS has became a crutch for turkey hunters and they are adverse to alternate options. So much so they don't want to accept it's possible.

You first tried to say we couldn't fit more than 1-1/4oz in a wad. I have posted multiple pictures to show 1-1/2oz fits with room to spare.

I wholeheartedly agree that you will have more pattern density with the tss load, but there is a point of diminishing returns.

Sure, we can put 300 pellets in a 10" circle with TSS, but is that turkey at 40 yards any more dead than the turkey shot with lead 6's that had 150 pellets in the 10" circle? No sir.

It's time we come back down to earth with shotshell load development. TSS has made us greedy. There's not a thing in the world wrong with cheap nickel plated lead. Lead shot has been and always will be the standard by which other shot materials are judged. We don't need 250 pellets in a 10" circle to kill a turkey.

First I did not say you couldn't get more than 1 1/4 oz of shot in a 20 gauge.  I said or meant to say that it was relevant to wad volume and 1 1/4 oz was what filled up the wad.  You are correct in the assumption that if you change the wad you change the volume.  I agree tss is a tool but not necessary.  I've been shooting it for 10 years and learned to hand load a long while before you could buy it as loaded ammo.  Now where I believe we're going to disagree is the 40 yard thing.  I personally don't care if a bird is 15 yards or 60.  If my gun is proven to be lethal at that range I'm taking the bird.  And yes a 250/40 is a clean kill at 60 yards.  Id probably get people at my house with torches and pitchforks if I posted some of the shot distance I've seen over the years from guys who have truly developed loads to kill turkeys at ridiculous ranges. I understand it's fool hardy to post those and I don't neither do I advocate for it but I do accept the reality that it's not a 40 yard game if you don't want it to be.  But that's up to you and there is no wrong answer.

For what it's worth if I were to shoot lead again out of a 20 gauge it would be nickel plated and either #6.5 or #7 in as heavy as payload as possible.