"10 percent of all Spring Gobbler Hunters kill 90 percent of the Spring Gobblers". I'm interested in your thoughts...
Not sure of percentages but certainly there are turkey hunters which kill turkeys every year as opposed to those that kill a turkey every so often.
I've heard that said one time or another to just about anything hunting and fishing related.
Exaggerated!
I agree that it is a bit exaggerated, but the idea holds true...
Couple years back at our duck club, with 12 members and 900 ducks being killed for the season, there were 3 members that were responsible (with guests) for killing over 600 of them, and a couple members killed less than 10...
There will always be some hunters that actively engage in the activity and take extra steps to become more knowledgeable, stay out longer, call better, shoot better, etc... Those hunters will buffer the averages towards the higher end...
Watching Youtube on both duck and turkey hunting... There are hunters that are consistently successful due to their hunting skills and knowledge... Then there are other hunters who are occasionally successful despite them.
I have heard the same said of about every commonly hunted animal in North America.
Since I bought my robo strutter decoy, I am planning on leveling those percentages out a little.
I've never heard of it..Doubtful,but definitely some of us are more consistent in killing them than others.
Quote from: Marc on February 10, 2020, 05:17:57 PM
There will always be some hunters that actively engage in the activity and take extra steps to become more knowledgeable, stay out longer, call better, shoot better, etc... Those hunters will buffer the averages towards the higher end...
I think exaggerated, but agree with above. I know some hunters who fill their tag or tags every year, but they are out there everyday of the season all day rain,snow,sleet , sub freezing
temps. They don't give up ! Very persistent versus those fair weather people who get discouraged easily.
1 in 10 hunters kill all the turkeys over and over again. Have a hard time believing that.
In PA hunting private land had over 50% success rate. In FL hunting public land haven't shot a turkey.
Nope. Would say there are a few fellows that consistently do better than most but it isn't that high. Specially with a lot of the newer trends that are being employed.
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In Mississippi last year, only 9.7% of hunters killed the 3 bird limit, but that only accounted for roughly 21% of the overall harvest.
Lol
Probably true. In Florida at least.
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Quote from: King Cobra on February 10, 2020, 04:13:22 PM
"10 percent of all Spring Gobbler Hunters kill 90 percent of the Spring Gobblers". I'm interested in your thoughts...
A saying worth consideration,...or at least a bit of frivolous discussion while we wait to go hunting....
No doubt that really serious turkey hunters kill a bigger percentage than their numbers. However, the number of serious turkey hunters as compared to the total number of turkey hunters is pretty small. I suspect really serious turkey hunters probably make up less than 10% of the overall number of turkey hunters. I would say a more accurate statement would be that "10% of hunters might kill 20% to 25% of the birds taken". Even that would be totally speculative,...but hey, it's worth talking about during the off-season,...and especially among us "serious turkey hunters". If nothing else, it makes us feel good about ourselves....
I think the overall percent of kills per year has decreased or has flatten our overall throughout the states , some state's will have a better percents than other depending on habitat, hatch and terrain. As one person said on another post , the non-serious turkey hunting may hunt opening weekend , then as the birds become harder to hunt , these people drop off and then what's left is the true turkey hunts the rest of the season.. I would also say that most all states, turkey hunting was at it's best probably back 5 years ago or better .. years back less weekend hunters per the available turkeys , and more serious turkey hunters. Like some will say is it a trend or just a fad ... It's all interesting anyway ...
Quote from: Crghss on February 10, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
1 in 10 hunters kill all the turkeys over and over again. Have a hard time believing that.
In PA hunting private land had over 50% success rate. In FL hunting public land haven't shot a turkey.
Florida public is seriously tough.
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With my new strategy of using military camo netting to completely drape over my electric golf cart, with a full strut dsd mounted on the hood, I fully intend to become one of the 10 percent. Those field gobblers don't stand a chance.
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I never talk to another turkey hunter in the season and have never filled out a survey, So?
I understand the concept but seems a bit high.
I'm pretty new to turkey hunting but the "best" deer hunters I know simply have more time to go. My one buddy who filled his buck tags in 2 states last year worked 3rd shift. He could hunt any morning he wanted to. He was just in the woods more and had more opportunity. I think time to hunt is what helps certain guys kill more birds/deer.
Have heard the percentage thing but was "20% of hunters take 80% of the game". Can apply that to whatever your game is i.e. Turkey/Deer/Ducks/Fishing and what not. I would think if you are serious about what you do you put your time into it, you learn the game your after and your skill level goes up.
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Quote from: King Cobra on February 10, 2020, 04:13:22 PM
"10 percent of all Spring Gobbler Hunters kill 90 percent of the Spring Gobblers". I'm interested in your thoughts...
1st time and only time I heard it was Roger Raglin said it back in the early 90's I was watching one of his hunting VHS's
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I've heard of it but do not believe it.
I appreciate your responses and agree that new technology is definitely increasing the odds for those who wish to go down that road.
Another aspect is the availability of private land vs. National Forest.
I also believe that the Passion of the Spring Hunt drives some people to become better and that has a direct influence on their success.
Lastly, does anybody know where can I find one of those ROBO turkey decoys with a remote controlled 10 gauge strapped to its back...
I think Gobblenut is a distributor, if he's out you could try LaLongbeard.
I tend to agree with the thought, but I'd say the overall percentage is exaggerated. I'm in the oil/gas industry and meet tons of people on new jobs. Many of these guys find out I hunt and as we become better aquatinted, it seems that many of these "hunters" are mainly "goers". They go 3-4 times a year on an old family place that may, or may not, have a bird. My number would likely be something closer to 10% of Turkey hunters kill 50-75% of spring govblers
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I think Gobblenut is a distributor
Yup. They're flyin' off the shelf like hotcakes. ...Mostly to Alabama and Georgia boys.
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Quote from: King Cobra on February 10, 2020, 04:13:22 PM
"10 percent of all Spring Gobbler Hunters kill 90 percent of the Spring Gobblers". I'm interested in your thoughts...
The actual saying is "90% of ALL game (not just gobblers) is killed by 10% of hunters."
I doubt it's that skewed but I feel that it's not far from it. Maybe something like 70% by 20% or something similar.
So 10% of the hunters killed 90% of the birds? Huh. Well then, i think the real question you are asking is whether or not they used decoys/blinds/neutron bombs/ sasquatch scented corn to do it?
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on February 10, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
With my new strategy of using military camo netting to completely drape over my electric golf cart, with a full strut dsd mounted on the hood, I fully intend to become one of the 10 percent. Those field gobblers don't stand a chance.
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Let us know if that works. I hate field birds. I used to say that I was going to dig a hole and wait. :))
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Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on February 10, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
With my new strategy of using military camo netting to completely drape over my electric golf cart, with a full strut dsd mounted on the hood, I fully intend to become one of the 10 percent. Those field gobblers don't stand a chance.
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Let us know if that works. I hate field birds. I used to say that I was going to dig a hole and wait. :))
Field birds are the most frustrating gobbler you will ever hunt. Trust me, I've thought of some crazy methods in the past to take one out. The golf cart idea is a joke, but I have thought of some tactics that would probably get a good laugh.
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Location,location, location. Having exclusive access to good ground will spike your curve over those that do not
Not 10% kill 90% but the SC turkey harvest report stated a repeated comment on percentage harvest by small group in every year's harvest report. The only change to the comment was when the limit was dropped from 5 to 3. You can check every year report by simply changing the year in the links below. A small percentage take a proportionately larger amount of turkey. Killers gonna kill and I think that's the point.
www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/turkey/2019TurkeyHarvest.html
2019-3 bird limit
"The statewide bag limit in South Carolina is 3 gobblers. Obviously, most successful hunters harvest only one or two birds. However, it is interesting to note the relative contribution to the total harvest of turkeys by the few hunters that harvest 3 birds. Ironically, the percentage of hunters taking 3 birds was only 2.3 percent, however, this small percentage of hunters harvested an estimated 28 percent of the total birds taken in the state (Figure 6)."
www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/turkey/2015TurkeyHarvest.html
2015-5 bird limit
"The statewide bag limit in South Carolina is five gobblers. Obviously, most successful hunters harvest only one or two birds. However, it is interesting to note the relative contribution to the total harvest of turkeys by the few hunters that harvest many birds. Ironically, the percentage of hunters taking more than 3 birds was only 2.2 percent, however, this small percentage of hunters harvested 25 percent of the total birds taken in the state (Figure 8 ). These results have been consistent since this type of data has been available."
Not a mathematician but if 10% pf the hunters take 90% of the turkeys, then would not not mean they are over their limit?
Very true. For instance, in Georgia, if there were 5000 active turkey hunters, 3 gobblers per hunter would be 15000 turkeys. 10% of the total hunters would be 500 guys. 90% of the turkeys would be 13,500 gobblers. Now if those 500 hunters killed 13,500 turkeys, that would equate to 27 gobblers per hunter. Which would naturally lead to the conclusion that the 10% are professional poachers. Just stirring the pot, lol.
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Who cares about the numbers of who kills what just go have fun and enjoy what God has given each and every one of us.
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Quote from: King Cobra on February 10, 2020, 04:13:22 PM
"10 percent of all Spring Gobbler Hunters kill 90 percent of the Spring Gobblers". I'm interested in your thoughts...
The actual saying is "90% of ALL game (not just gobblers) is killed by 10% of hunters."
I doubt it's that skewed but I feel that it's not far from it. Maybe something like 70% by 20% or something similar.
I recognize that turkey Pro. "Shoot them in the bubbles"!!!!