Sorry, I have no clue where to put this but I was speaking with a friend a bit ago and he mentioned that he heard on Rush that if you fly into any part of NY and have ammo with you in the same container as your firearm they are treating it as a loaded weapon and arresting people at the airport.
Now this is contrary to a thread we had here not long ago where I believe it is South West Airlines has you keep your ammo in a box that it came in or if reloads that it has to be in some kind of box or old ammo cardboad box and you would be fine. (May have been all airlines but I remember South West as I fly with them when I do fly.
I guess this is something that dictator Coumo presiding egomaniac here in NY has implemented. Has anyone heard of any such thing?
There have been several instances of this happening specifically in the case of NYC airports and handguns. I would avoid arriving or departing from any NYC airport with any firearm unless you had the proper NYC permits. It is my understanding that outside of NYC a shotgun is not a problem, but I'd recommend talking to the State Police and also gunshops upstate that cater to traveling hunters.
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 02, 2019, 08:29:36 AM
There have been several instances of this happening specifically in the case of NYC airports and handguns. I would avoid arriving or departing from any NYC airport with any firearm unless you had the proper NYC permits. It is my understanding that outside of NYC a shotgun is not a problem, but I'd recommend talking to the State Police and also gunshops upstate that cater to traveling hunters.
Having lived in NY for most of my life, I do believe that Raps post is correct. I would call the state police and ask them. I know the city is highly regulated. I know cops who work for the city that have been denied pistiol permits. Hate that state and am so glad my family and I moved to NC.
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Last time I traveled, drove not fly, to NY I called the fish and game and state police to make sure of all regs. They have a checklist that prohibits certain firearms, even shotguns. Flying is different I believe. Check NY and airlines. Speak to a real human and get their name. The more info you have the better off you are.
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 02, 2019, 08:29:36 AM
There have been several instances of this happening specifically in the case of NYC airports and handguns. I would avoid arriving or departing from any NYC airport with any firearm unless you had the proper NYC permits. It is my understanding that outside of NYC a shotgun is not a problem, but I'd recommend talking to the State Police and also gunshops upstate that cater to traveling hunters.
Quote from: tomstopper on June 02, 2019, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 02, 2019, 08:29:36 AM
There have been several instances of this happening specifically in the case of NYC airports and handguns. I would avoid arriving or departing from any NYC airport with any firearm unless you had the proper NYC permits. It is my understanding that outside of NYC a shotgun is not a problem, but I'd recommend talking to the State Police and also gunshops upstate that cater to traveling hunters.
Having lived in NY for most of my life, I do believe that Raps post is correct. I would call the state police and ask them. I know the city is highly regulated. I know cops who work for the city that have been denied pistiol permits. Hate that state and am so glad my family and I moved to NC.
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Quote from: zelmo1 on June 02, 2019, 08:51:53 AM
Last time I traveled, drove not fly, to NY I called the fish and game and state police to make sure of all regs. They have a checklist that prohibits certain firearms, even shotguns. Flying is different I believe. Check NY and airlines. Speak to a real human and get their name. The more info you have the better off you are.
I am very familiar with NYC being crazy with their laws for sure, but talking with my friend he said there have also been cases of in in "Upstate" NY as well, that is the concerning part to me. We have no say in what happens here because we can't outvote NYC that is one of the reasons I so strongly support succession from NYC and they can have Albany and Schenectady as well.
I love my state, it has so much beauty and I could never live someplace without seasons. I however hate the state government.
I have family in OK and they want me to move there but I don't like it there, much to flat and much to hot, no colors in the fall and not enough snow in the winter and winter does not last long enough and I don't like the heat in NY let alone down South or out West, they are nice to visit but do not want to live there, well maybe Montana, I would love to see mountains before I die. Also to many people here I love.
Yankees **** and so does N Y - we are all in for it with the crazed libtards .
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Quote from: camotoe on June 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
Yankees **** and so does N Y - we are all in for it with the crazed libtards .
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I am guessing you are talking baseball at first, I can't stand baseball. NY does not suck, the government in NY certainly does though.
NY gun laws are probably worse then California at this point. Even when you ask people who are supposed to know the law they are even confused. I am from NY but live in NJ. I still own property in NY where I hunt, I can not even bring any of my handguns to NY with me even though they are all legal in NJ and would be legal in NY if I lived there. Not only are the rules ridiculas they are confusing. Its only going to get worse now that the libs took over the whole state. Outside the city was always republican run but after this last election it all went lib. I do agree with Sir-Diealot, it is a great state. Tons of public land, beautiful seasons
great fishing. But the GOV does suck.
TSA rules and hopefully enforcement of them should be the same throughout the U.S., shouldn't they? In NYC airports, are declared firearms also routinely checked by State or local police? If so, is that the case elsewhere? ???
I support building a wall! But Mexico is fine, we need to build the wall around Sacramento and New York. LOL
New York and California are 2 states I have no desire to ever venture to.
I have flown for several hunting trips from Alabama to Wyoming and some other states, You cannot have the ammo in the same case as the firearm. The ammo and the firearm are kept separate for many reasons, but the most important one is that if someone got the firearm at least they would not get the ammo also.
I believe that to be the same as if traveling by vehicle, that the ammo and firearm are not suppose to be kept together.
Quote from: Yelper on June 02, 2019, 03:58:31 PM
I have flown for several hunting trips from Alabama to Wyoming and some other states, You cannot have the ammo in the same case as the firearm. The ammo and the firearm are kept separate for many reasons, but the most important one is that if someone got the firearm at least they would not get the ammo also.
I believe that to be the same as if traveling by vehicle, that the ammo and firearm are not suppose to be kept together.
Incorrect. You can transport ammo in same case as firearm as long as it is properly stored. Flew with my gun this spring, opened case both times for Southwest and TSA called for my keys to inspect it once. Ammo was properly stored. No issues.
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on June 02, 2019, 04:09:16 PM
Quote from: Yelper on June 02, 2019, 03:58:31 PM
I have flown for several hunting trips from Alabama to Wyoming and some other states, You cannot have the ammo in the same case as the firearm. The ammo and the firearm are kept separate for many reasons, but the most important one is that if someone got the firearm at least they would not get the ammo also.
I believe that to be the same as if traveling by vehicle, that the ammo and firearm are not suppose to be kept together.
Incorrect. You can transport ammo in same case as firearm as long as it is properly stored. Flew with my gun this spring, opened case both times for Southwest and TSA called for my keys to inspect it once. Ammo was properly stored. No issues.
I just looked it up and you are correct that you can check the gun and ammo in a hard case together. Must have changed since I flew last, but the airline had me put the ammo in a checked bag and the firearm in its hard case.
Quote from: tal on June 02, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
I support building a wall! But Mexico is fine, we need to build the wall around Sacramento and New York. LOL
Not all of the state of NY most of it is great, just fence off NYC
Quote from: camotoe on June 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
Yankees **** .
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Quote from: tal on June 02, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
I support building a wall! But Mexico is fine, we need to build the wall around Sacramento and New York. LOL
If it includes Yanker's stadium I for it. GO SOX!!!!
Quote from: captpete on June 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: camotoe on June 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
Yankees **** .
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Quote from: tal on June 02, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
I support building a wall! But Mexico is fine, we need to build the wall around Sacramento and New York. LOL
If it includes Yanker's stadium I for it. GO SOX!!!!
I will say go Celtics but that is the only Boston team I like.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 02, 2019, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: captpete on June 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: camotoe on June 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
Yankees **** .
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Quote from: tal on June 02, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
I support building a wall! But Mexico is fine, we need to build the wall around Sacramento and New York. LOL
If it includes Yanker's stadium I for it. GO SOX!!!!
I will say go Celtics but that is the only Boston team I like.
I hate basketball. I would rather listen to golf tournament on the radio then watch a basketball game. The Red Sox is the only Boston team I like.
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Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 02, 2019, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: captpete on June 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: camotoe on June 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
Yankees **** .
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Quote from: tal on June 02, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
I support building a wall! But Mexico is fine, we need to build the wall around Sacramento and New York. LOL
If it includes Yanker's stadium I for it. GO SOX!!!!
I will say go Celtics but that is the only Boston team I like.
I hate basketball. I would rather listen to golf tournament on the radio then watch a basketball game. The Red Sox is the only Boston team I like.
I used to be the same with basketball then started to like a a few years back. I would sooner watch the The World Tiddlywinks Championships than watch baseball.
ABORT CUOMO....
LMAO... Cuomo a poster child for pro-choice?
Quote from: Yelper on June 02, 2019, 03:58:31 PM
I have flown for several hunting trips from Alabama to Wyoming and some other states, You cannot have the ammo in the same case as the firearm. The ammo and the firearm are kept separate for many reasons, but the most important one is that if someone got the firearm at least they would not get the ammo also.
I believe that to be the same as if traveling by vehicle, that the ammo and firearm are not suppose to be kept together.
This is 100% wrong IMO. Read the printed rules and Contract of Carriage on the airlines' web sites. If the ammo isn't firmly stored in the lock gun case where is it supposed to be? In the unlocked soft suitcase bouncing around the cargo hold? Can't be in your carry on bag.
Traveling by vehicle - other than the good old days of having a gun displayed in the back window of a pick up truck and ammo scattered around the front seat there shouldn't be a problem. A cased gun and secured ammo shouldn't be a problem about anywhere. A weapon and ammo "Easily at Hand" could be a problem but a hunter traveling with his turkey gun in a case in a car trunk or behind his truck seat should be golden. If I fly into a state, rent a car, and then drive away the gun will be out of sight in a locked case in a place I can't easily reach it from the driver's seat.
Most airlines are now adding that the customer is responsible for knowing the restrictions present when they land and take possession of their weapon. Betting NRA members could find out answers to these questions with little trouble. Over the years I've submitted questions on gun transfer matters and received a quick answer.
Update - spent a little time yesterday checking a few web sites. Southwest still reads that the ammo can be in the case with the firearm. All airlines I looked at now state it is the customers responsibility to know the laws at the point of arrival. That is going to be the wild card.
Four members of a Florida forum traveled extensively this season. I asked one directly if they had trouble flying with their turkey guns. They didn't and they flew to three different western locations. Don't make this harder than it is or you'll be intimidated into staying at home.