Take a look at him!!
MK M GOBL
Sweeet
That would get my attention.
Go get em!
Post pics!
Very cool.
Nice. And he's modeling that tail display for ya!
Very cool!
WOW, :anim_25:
Any history with him?
Awesome!
Awesome! Excuse my ignorance, but is this naturally occuring?
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That's awesome.
Quote from: Terry on April 03, 2017, 08:38:11 PM
Awesome! Excuse my ignorance, but is this naturally occuring?
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They are a color aberration within the genetic makeup, there are a few of these that occur. This happens in a number of species
MK M GOBL
He would make a beautiful full body mount. BUT I'd possibly not take him if I knew someone else wouldn't. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 03, 2017, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: Terry on April 03, 2017, 08:38:11 PM
Awesome! Excuse my ignorance, but is this naturally occuring?
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They are a color aberration within the genetic makeup, there are a few of these that occur. This happens in a number of species
MK M GOBL
Thanks for the response. I knew that about other species, but a lot of the time when people post pics like this, others start crying domestic.
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Quote from: Terry on April 03, 2017, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 03, 2017, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: Terry on April 03, 2017, 08:38:11 PM
Awesome! Excuse my ignorance, but is this naturally occuring?
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They are a color aberration within the genetic makeup, there are a few of these that occur. This happens in a number of species
MK M GOBL
Thanks for the response. I knew that about other species, but a lot of the time when people post pics like this, others start crying domestic.
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Not saying this couldn't be a cross... I live in farm country and there are domestics that could have bred a wild hen, don't know for sure there are any domestics in this area but have never seen anything like this around.
MK M GOBL
WOW!
Very cool!! Good luck!
Now that's a pretty bird right there!
Awesome!!!! Here is the one I killed in Florida. It was the first bird I had ever killed. I didn't know how special it was at the time.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7624/16728177777_b064cd3168_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rudhse)Silver Phase Turkey (https://flic.kr/p/rudhse) by Eric Orlando (https://www.flickr.com/photos/80867112@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7047/26512535124_f8c5e7c830_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GoPF1y)DSC_7164 (https://flic.kr/p/GoPF1y) by Eric Orlando (https://www.flickr.com/photos/80867112@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7215/26512530834_11fc566260_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GoPDJA)DSC_7163 (https://flic.kr/p/GoPDJA) by Eric Orlando (https://www.flickr.com/photos/80867112@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 03, 2017, 08:16:13 PM
Take a look at him!!
MK M GOBL
Nice, don't have room for a mounted turkey but would find room if got something them
Best of luck! That would be one special kill
Does DSD make a smoke phase decoy?
Quote from: guesswho on April 04, 2017, 11:47:18 AM
Does DSD make a smoke phase decoy?
:TooFunny: :TooFunny:
To the OP: Good luck - that's really something!
Wow, both the live one and stuffed one look awesome!
Quote from: guesswho on April 04, 2017, 11:47:18 AM
Does DSD make a smoke phase decoy?
They might. I don't think the one I saw was a DSD but at a local retailer a while back they had a smoke hen, pretty sure it was some other brand. Weird looking IMO.
Someone around here thought they shot one a year or 2 ago, I was excited thinking maybe their genetics were around. Turns out it was some kind of heritage breed called a Royal Palm I believe. Straight up domestic :-\
Quote from: HawkeyeGobbler on April 04, 2017, 01:58:33 PM
Someone around here thought they shot one a year or 2 ago, I was excited thinking maybe their genetics were around. Turns out it was some kind of heritage breed called a Royal Palm I believe. Straight up domestic :-\
Well our domesticated fowl were derived from wild fowl. So in the genetic makeup of our wild bird is the genes to these color aberrations. So let's say your pretty old timey and back in the day you seen on of these "Smokey" birds and were able to trap it. You may have bred it with another bird and she had mixed "Smokeys" in her offspring. Now you may have used several toms with that same Smokey Hen and she would have another Smokey in her offspring. Then over some time you would use these off-spring Smokeys and let them breed and once you had a basis of the correct genes you would be now producing Smokeys on a regular basis (Line Breeding: the selective breeding of animals for a desired feature by mating them within a closely related line.) Now you have what is know as the domesticated Royal Palm Turkey. This goes for many species/domesticated animals...
We raised a lot of birds on the farm and you could bred for certain traits, just like with dogs, cattle and so on...
MK M GOBL
I believe it's mad calls that makes the smoke phase decoy and it's called the smokey baby.
Love the smoke phase birds. I have only seen one smokey gobbler in the wild but see some smoke phase hens on occasion. Good luck, I'd say he's in danger if you are on him! Big taxidermy bill could be coming your way!!!
Nice. Go Get Him!
Were you hunting? or did you spot him from the road or scouting?
Quote from: turkeywhisperer935 on April 04, 2017, 06:14:03 PM
I believe it's mad calls that makes the smoke phase decoy and it's called the smokey baby.
Wow, I actually thought that was a joke! Geesh, there's a market for everything!
Cool bird and great capture...
I have seen a few turkeys, but have never seen a smoke phase bird. I always thought that this was a form of leucism, but apparently, it is actually a genetic color phase.
http://www.startribune.com/smoke-phase-turkeys-rare-beautiful/115339759/
QuoteQuote"The partially white or smoke-phase turkeys occur naturally," said Tom Glines, Minnesota's senior regional director for the National Wild Turkey Federation. "The white or gray feathers are black-tipped and the birds are beautiful."
What is known is that the wild turkey has four distinct color variations from what is considered the usual plumage. They are the smoke phase, the erythritic or red phase, the melanistic or black phase, and the true albinos, which are pure white with pink eyes. Although these color variations are uncommon, the smoke phase is the most frequently seen. Recessive genes or mutations account for the color abnormalities.
I have to wonder if the smokey phase is not more common in different regions of the country or with different sub-species? I would also be curious if they are more common with areas that see more snow (as this could actually be a beneficial camouflage in a snow covered area)?
Really cool looking turkey.
We have two smoke phase hens on one of our lease, haven't seen a smoke gobbler yet, but I'd love to get one.
Quote from: Lucky_Strutter on April 05, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
We have two smoke phase hens on one of our lease, haven't seen a smoke gobbler yet, but I'd love to get one.
From what I have read and been told hens are more common than gobblers. Not saying smoke phase anything is common just that hens appear more often than the gobblers.
Heres a picture taken in February.
Quote from: nsselle on April 05, 2017, 03:09:53 PM
Were you hunting? or did you spot him from the road or scouting?
Scouting, season is not open yet...
MK M GOBL
That tail fan will look great in the file rack. Lol ;D
Really cool looking bird
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Beautiful bird
Awesome. Good luck with him!