I'm starting to have some second thoughts about hunting on the Sabbath. I don't consider it work, and when I'm out hunting I feel closer to God, but it's starting to have second thoughts, and I'm not really sure why. For my fellow brothers, why or why won't you hunt on the Sabbath? Delicate/controversial subject, I know, but I need some guidance.
Guess it depends on your beliefs. Sounds like your prob a Christian n personally I don't see anything wrong w hunting a few hours n still making your service. At my church second service starts 11, plenty of time to do both. To me some of the best parts of the day are when the sun is just starting to rise n making the sky all streaky. Great way to start a Sunday. Tell me that's not something to thank God for? The gobbling birds, deer sneaking up the hill etc are all His creations. Imo nothing wrong w being part of it for a bit.
I am not that religious but I feel the closest to God when in the woods. Always have, and often thank him for giving me the best alter to worship in. No matter what day it happens to be.
Quote from: Bowguy on March 18, 2017, 06:41:17 AM
Guess it depends on your beliefs. Sounds like your prob a Christian n personally I don't see anything wrong w hunting a few hours n still making your service. At my church second service starts 11, plenty of time to do both. To me some of the best parts of the day are when the sun is just starting to rise n making the sky all streaky. Great way to start a Sunday. Tell me that's not something to thank God for? The gobbling birds, deer sneaking up the hill etc are all His creations. Imo nothing wrong w being part of it for a bit.
X2. No better church than the one he created. I still make it back in time for the service with wife and kids but I see no problem getting out there for a couple hours on a Sunday morning.
This can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
The Good Book says you don't work on the Sabbath and hunting turkeys the last time I checked is having fun and enjoyment. It isn't work. It all boils down to what ya feel in your heart, between you and God. :bible:
Not a fan! God said Honor the Sabbath and keep it Holy. In other words don't put anything ahead of worshipping God. Yes, we can worship in the outdoors but your heart is on hunting not on honoring and worshiping God completely!
According to scripture Sunday is the first day of the week Saturday is the sabbath so most people that have an opinion on Sunday hunting need to read the bible more carefully. That being said I hunt the first weekend of the season then Monday-Friday and sometimes Saturday or whenever while out of state. But I'm usually in church every Sunday.
Myself? as a general rule, I don't. Yes there may be an out of state trip when I do but if I'm home and I usually am on Sunday then I'm at Church. You all know how much I enjoy hunting but honestly I think that being in church is more important. I can't put in a quick hunt before church and still have my mind where it needs to be because it's lost in the woods. Frankly I realize that a job and supporting my family and myself are more important than turkeys and keeping perspective if I won't work on Sunday then why hunt on Sunday. Yes I believe it to be a day of rest but resting the mind and Spirit while feeding the soul will do me more good than a gobbling turkey. As a Christian I try to put Christ first and I feel like I'm very blessed because of my decision.
This all seems very silly to me, but probably because I'm bitter my State doesn't allow Sunday hunting and I have no belief in your deity or his book. Maybe try asking your clergyman or praying on it, that's where I'd start if I was a man of religion. Good luck.
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AM
This can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
You are 100% spot on!
When Christ was crucified on the cross the old law and covenant was not destroyed but fulfilled and the vale was torn down.
Under Grace we have the ability to be baptized for the remission of Sin and put on Christ. We can speak with the Father through Christ instead of relying on a priest and a curtain.
Under Grace we don't need a blood sacrifice to wipe out a sin. That sacrifice was made as Christ's blood was shed his blood is sufficient for all our sins. Living under grace we can repent for sins and ask forgiveness and also have others pray on our behalf.
The Sabbath under the Old Covenant falls on Saturday.
So hunting for a couple hours on Sunday morning before service wouldn't be considered hunting on the Sabbath.
In the last few months I've really been struggling to keep Christ as my number one priority. I've made turkey hunting into an idol. I have been putting off studying the word and have slacked off on Prayer throughout the day just Morning and night as of late.
I haven't allowed myself to see it until I read your post.
I would like to ask for forgiveness and strength and guidance to keep Christ as my number one priority.
If you will go to the Lord in prayer on my behalf. I would appreciate it greatly.
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Always feel closer to God in the woods full of gobblers than a church full of people!
Quote from: LI Outdoorsman on March 18, 2017, 09:47:52 AM
Always feel closer to God in the woods full of gobblers than a church full of people!
Same here. I don't buy into the idea that any day of the week is more important than any other.
I have a mini Bible that goes with me on all my hunting trips deer and turkey season. I keep it in a zip lock bag and read it all the time setting in the deer stand or again a tree turkey hunting. You don't have to wait until Sunday just to study the Bible....Nothing like nature and the good book....
Quote from: turkaholic on March 18, 2017, 07:15:05 AM
I am not that religious but I feel the closest to God when in the woods. Always have, and often thank him for giving me the best alter to worship in. No matter what day it happens to be.
:agreed: :jesus-cross:
Quote from: Tennessee Lead on March 18, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AM
This can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
You are 100% spot on!
When Christ was crucified on the cross the old law and covenant was not destroyed but fulfilled and the vale was torn down.
Under Grace we have the ability to be baptized for the remission of Sin and put on Christ. We can speak with the Father through Christ instead of relying on a priest and a curtain.
Under Grace we don't need a blood sacrifice to wipe out a sin. That sacrifice was made as Christ's blood was shed his blood is sufficient for all our sins. Living under grace we can repent for sins and ask forgiveness and also have others pray on our behalf.
The Sabbath under the Old Covenant falls on Saturday.
So hunting for a couple hours on Sunday morning before service wouldn't be considered hunting on the Sabbath.
In the last few months I've really been struggling to keep Christ as my number one priority. I've made turkey hunting into an idol. I have been putting off studying the word and have slacked off on Prayer throughout the day just Morning and night as of late.
I haven't allowed myself to see it until I read your post.
I would like to ask for forgiveness and strength and guidance to keep Christ as my number one priority.
If you will go to the Lord in prayer on my behalf. I would appreciate it greatly.
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My friend, I'm always honored to pray for a brother in Christ, and I ask that you pray for me also. It's very easy in today's fast paced world to shift your worship, prayer, and Bible study to the backburner. The past few months I've been guilty of this myself
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AM
This can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
Agreed. VA just opened Sunday hunting a few seasons back on private land with written permission on your person stating you have it. Landowners still have say so on the subject. As a Christian I have spent many a Sunday scouting, fishing, playing golf and working so hunting is no different as long as I don't put I before God. My 2 cents!
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GOOD POST.. I too am a Christian and LOVE turkey hunting and if not careful i can let it become an idol and all i think about.. With my job I can hunt every morning if I feel like it so its not a problem for me to skip sunday hunting. However Hebrews 10:25 says do not forsake the assembling of ourselves together,as the manner of some is,but exhorting one another and so much more, as you see the day approaching.. If you dont believe in Christ i guess this is hogwash to you. (But you better search your heart ,cause if you wind up being wrong ..................) The more mature i become as a christian the closer i want to be to my savior, so far me, i try to be there everytime the doors are open just to be lifted up because the world beats us down everyday if we let it ..
Here in pennsylvania it is illegal to hunt turkeys on sunday......
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: Tennessee Lead on March 18, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AM
This can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
You are 100% spot on!
When Christ was crucified on the cross the old law and covenant was not destroyed but fulfilled and the vale was torn down.
Under Grace we have the ability to be baptized for the remission of Sin and put on Christ. We can speak with the Father through Christ instead of relying on a priest and a curtain.
Under Grace we don't need a blood sacrifice to wipe out a sin. That sacrifice was made as Christ's blood was shed his blood is sufficient for all our sins. Living under grace we can repent for sins and ask forgiveness and also have others pray on our behalf.
The Sabbath under the Old Covenant falls on Saturday.
So hunting for a couple hours on Sunday morning before service wouldn't be considered hunting on the Sabbath.
In the last few months I've really been struggling to keep Christ as my number one priority. I've made turkey hunting into an idol. I have been putting off studying the word and have slacked off on Prayer throughout the day just Morning and night as of late.
I haven't allowed myself to see it until I read your post.
I would like to ask for forgiveness and strength and guidance to keep Christ as my number one priority.
If you will go to the Lord in prayer on my behalf. I would appreciate it greatly.
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My friend, I'm always honored to pray for a brother in Christ, and I ask that you pray for me also. It's very easy in today's fast paced world to shift your worship, prayer, and Bible study to the backburner. The past few months I've been guilty of this myself
Thank you very much and I appreciate your example.
It's a privilege to pray for one another and I am more than happy to pray for you.
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Just curious and not meaning any disrespect whatsover,but do you have to go to church in order to be a good Christian? I believe in God,spread his word on occasion,pray,and do my best trying to live life by the 10 commandments although not perfectly all the time. I rarely go to church and if I didn't work Sundays I wouldn't have a job anymore and kinda like the profession I'm in. Also if givin the chance and im not working i hunt every Sunday i can.I probably need a few prayers sent up for me if you fellas get a chance..(Serious)
Quote from: Brian Fahs on March 18, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
Here in pennsylvania it is illegal to hunt turkeys on sunday......
Worst rule ever. If the "enlightened" want to attend their service, awesome. I wanna hunt!
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Quote from: Brian Fahs on March 18, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
Here in pennsylvania it is illegal to hunt turkeys on sunday......
Worst rule ever. If the "enlightened" want to attend their service, awesome. I wanna hunt!
I'm in Pa and a God fearing man........but the day the PGC changes this stupid rule.....I'll be out among em'
Just can't serve two Masters and know I only have One. Genesis 1:29.....Genesis 9: 1-3.
I'm semiretired and work Monday and Wednesday. I feel like I can hunt four days and go to church on Sunday. Occasionally I skip church service to hunt or do something else. Then Monday comes and I just don't feel right. There is something about the service, the prayer, singing and being with my church family that makes a week complete. I was in our church building Wednesday helping serve a free community meal, Thursday for an Ad Team meeting and painting the kitchen Friday, BUT none of those things leave me with the same feeling worshiping God does.
StruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
StruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
I will be glad to my friend. God bless
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
StruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
I will be glad to my friend. God bless
Thank you and I don't think it's coincidence in the timing of your post. This past Wednesday at our small group our shortcomings were revealed. Grown men tearing up with guilt because they realized they had been selling their time short with Jesus. I'm guilty. It's a simple concept for Christians but sometimes such a difficult thing for us to do I guess partly because of our sinful nature and all the other distractions that come our way. Jesus just wants to spend time with you.
Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
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Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
StruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
I will be glad to my friend. God bless
Thank you and I don't think it's coincidence in the timing of your post. This past Wednesday at our small group our shortcomings were revealed. Grown men tearing up with guilt because they realized they had been selling their time short with Jesus. I'm guilty. It's a simple concept for Christians but sometimes such a difficult thing for us to do I guess partly because of our sinful nature and all the other distractions that come our way. Jesus just wants to spend time with you.
Very, very true, and something I'm guilty of as well. It's a very easy thing to let idolatry slip into your life. As I said earlier, that's something I've been convicted about strongly here lately. However, always remember that He Who began a good work in you will complete it. That's a Biblical promise.
I believe God wants us to worship in communion with others, in church. That said, I think he also understands the occasional solo worship in His great chapel, the outdoors. I too, feel close to God in the wild outdoors and my hunts always includes prayer and talks with Him, be that on Sunday or any day I can get out to hunt.
I don't think god cares about where you're at when you're talking to him, learning from him, or sharing with others the lessons that matter. Church is a great place to surround oneself with others of like minds, and form a bond as a group of devoted individuals. But in reality saying that hunting on Sunday's is disrespectful to god is a bit of a leap in my opinion. I'm assuming people who are against hunting on sundays don't work Tuesday to Saturday schedules and a second job on Monday's. No disrespect to others, just another perspective on the topic
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My, my, my. I haven't personally met anybody from this site but I'm happy to know that I've got so many Brothers in Christ on here. I'm sure there are many more too. My hat's off to those of you who spoke your beliefs/convictions. I don't hunt or fish on Sundays.
Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
StruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
Yes sir will gladly offer up prayer
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 18, 2017, 12:22:54 PM
Just curious and not meaning any disrespect whatsover,but do you have to go to church in order to be a good Christian? I believe in God,spread his word on occasion,pray,and do my best trying to live life by the 10 commandments although not perfectly all the time. I rarely go to church and if I didn't work Sundays I wouldn't have a job anymore and kinda like the profession I'm in. Also if givin the chance and im not working i hunt every Sunday i can.I probably need a few prayers sent up for me if you fellas get a chance..(Serious)
I believe we are commanded as posted above not to forsake the assembling of one another
I will be praying for you and that your career will allow you the chance to worship on Sunday morning.
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Lots of good comments, thanks. I can and do worship Him when I'm in the outdoors, but to be honest, it's the hunting that grabs my focus. That's what I'm struggling with, and you, brothers, have helped put that in perspective. As I grow in Christ, sometimes things seem so simple, and others seem so complicated. Maybe that's how he nudges us to find the answers in His Word.
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Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
StruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
Yes sir will gladly offer up prayer. Thank you.
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Quote from: dejake on March 18, 2017, 06:41:02 PM
Lots of good comments, thanks. I can and do worship Him when I'm in the outdoors, but to be honest, it's the hunting that grabs my focus. That's what I'm struggling with, and you, brothers, have helped put that in perspective. As I grow in Christ, sometimes things seem so simple, and others seem so complicated. Maybe that's how he nudges us to find the answers in His Word.
That's the thing about it, my friend. Too many people see Christianity as a list of dos and don'ts, or fear they will have to give up their hobbies, etc. Walking with Christ is not religion, its relationship. Christ wants to be your closest confidante and friend. As the Scripture says, Christ is the "friend that sticks closer than a brother". He doesn't want to take joy away from you. As He Himself said, "I have come that they might have life, and life more abundantly". He wants you to include Him in your outdoor pursuits and passions, and that includes turkey hunting. Best of luck this season.
Quote from: dejake on March 18, 2017, 06:41:02 PM
Lots of good comments, thanks. I can and do worship Him when I'm in the outdoors, but to be honest, it's the hunting that grabs my focus. That's what I'm struggling with, and you, brothers, have helped put that in perspective. As I grow in Christ, sometimes things seem so simple, and others seem so complicated. Maybe that's how he nudges us to find the answers in His Word.
If you are "hunting" as church but not focused on Him, I think you have your answer. Also remember that the worship isn't just for us- it is an opportunity to draw near to Him and thank Him for all the ways we have been blessed. It can be difficult to focus on what we need to during worship, I know. I have a 3 year old. Instead of trying to make hunting my church, I use those quiet mornings to read the Bible. I carry a small New Testament in my pocket and I can focus on what I'm reading in the tree stand or blind much more intently than I can at the house. I think part of it is there isn't anything else I need to be doing in that moment except listening for footsteps or a distant gobble.
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Lots of good comments, thanks. I can and do worship Him when I'm in the outdoors, but to be honest, it's the hunting that grabs my focus. That's what I'm struggling with, and you, brothers, have helped put that in perspective. As I grow in Christ, sometimes things seem so simple, and others seem so complicated. Maybe that's how he nudges us to find the answers in His Word.
If you are "hunting" as church but not focused on Him, I think you have your answer. Also remember that the worship isn't just for us- it is an opportunity to draw near to Him and thank Him for all the ways we have been blessed. It can be difficult to focus on what we need to during worship, I know. I have a 3 year old. Instead of trying to make hunting my church, I use those quiet mornings to read the Bible. I carry a small New Testament in my pocket and I can focus on what I'm reading in the tree stand or blind much more intently than I can at the house. I think part of it is there isn't anything else I need to be doing in that moment except listening for footsteps or a distant gobble.
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Agree with you .. that's why i always carry mine...
One of the best threads I've ever seen on OG. Sunday turkey hunting became legal here about three years ago but I've never went. My Dad always told me that the Lord gives you 6 days of the week to hunt you can give him one to worship and reverence him. I understand that some guys the only day they have to hunt is Sunday and I have no problem with it as I think it is each person's choice. Very nice to see I have like minded brothers in Christ here on OG.
I do opening weekend I have had the desire to be chasing turkeys since the season ended the year before. I almost always go the whole weekend. Not many after that unless we are on a draw hunt and out of town. Been a whole lot of times I have killed a bird right off the roost on opening Sunday and made it to church before my family
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 18, 2017, 10:29:26 AM
I have a mini Bible that goes with me on all my hunting trips deer and turkey season. I keep it in a zip lock bag and read it all the time setting in the deer stand or again a tree turkey hunting. You don't have to wait until Sunday just to study the Bible....Nothing like nature and the good book....
Me too! Always have one in my vest and whatever pack I'm using.
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AM
This can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
Come out to Oak Ridge Baptist in Salisbury we have 3 services on Sunday and we go to the 1200 noon, time for an AM or PM hunt LOL. In my part of MD we dont have Sunday hunting for turkeys but do have some for deer. Have gone hunting on Sunday but make it to church, fortunate to be able to hunt near home. I feel like it's all about priorities, we dont miss church (often), dont miss smallgroup, talk to God daily, read my Bible so dont see it a big deal to me. If it got in the way of my walk with God then it would be a problem! The Holy Spirit will let you know if it's a problem for you. GOD BLESS :jesus-cross:
I'd rather spend the day in gods great outdoors doing what I love then a church full of judgmental people.
Move to Maryland where that choice is already made for ya.....no matter what your beliefs are.
You can buy all the beer and booze... heck, even the casinos and strip bars are open.....but a man can't go in the woods and hunt (in most counties) on a sunday.
There are some very good posts here and I agree with every one of you,but just let me add my take on this. I'm not nearly as "religious" as I once was,but several years ago I did not miss a service no matter what Twice on Sunday Tuesday prayer meeting and Wednesday night church. I was a younger man then and worked construction and sometimes worked 6 days a week. Our deer season is 7 days a Friday-Sunday then in 2 weeks a Thursday- Sunday. For years I thought of deer season as my vacation and would not be at church on Sunday morning,but was there Sunday night.One pastor would give me a hard time about it ,but i didnt give it to much thought.We moved churches and the pastor there was an older guy and he never said a word to me about missing 2 Sundays a year to deer hunt. This pastor retired and a new one took over,and the very first deer season he was the pastor he preached hellfire and brimstone Sunday night for deer hunting on Sunday. We ended up talking about it and I agreed that I would not do it anymore. A few years went by and I found myself sitting in Sunday service,and wishing I was in the woods. Those few years that went by it seemed like the "new" pastor was very controlling.
A couple more years went by and that time of year was rolling around and I was really starting to wear on my mind. I talked to the Lord about it,I talked to some other brothers about it,and I even went ans talked to the pastor about it. I told him I knew what his wishes were but I didnt feel bad at all for being in the woods 2 Sundays a year,especially when the entire time I was sitting in church my mind was elsewhere. Well I went deer hunting ,and that evening guess who the sermon was about
I went home hurt and confused,but not sorry for what I had done. I prayed and ask the Lord for forgiveness IF I had done wrong and direction. Here is where I was led to...........When the Lord told Elijah to go up on the mountain. There was wind.......and rain.....then an earthquake that broke the rocks.......after the earthquake a fire.........but the Lord was not in any of those things.........but at the end there was a still small voice,and thats were the Lord was.( Short version of course)
I believe this is one of those things that is personal conviction,and I would not push what I feel is right for me on anyone else,because it may be different for you.
Quote from: Bolandstrutters on March 19, 2017, 12:23:08 AM
I'd rather spend the day in gods great outdoors doing what I love then a church full of judgmental people.
Judge much?
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Quote from: Bolandstrutters on March 19, 2017, 12:23:08 AM
I'd rather spend the day in gods great outdoors doing what I love then a church full of judgmental people.
Judge much?
I am getting ready to head out the door shortly because I need Jesus and His salvation, not because I have it all figured out. I really hate that some in this thread have had such negative experiences with a few Christians. I pray you give Christ a second chance, and don't judge Him by the all failings of his followers. We're still human, after all, but we're trying.
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Im curious about whether spending Sunday morning on OG thinking about turkey hunting is the same as actually hunting when considering one's spiritual devotion on the sabbath? I'm curious to know more about where the line is drawn for different people.
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