Unfortunately as I am a sucker for a good looking over priced decoy this one tempts me. I already own a few of the avian-x's and do not really need another one. Have any of you decoy junkies seen these yet and what do you think about them?
I'm a DSD guy but really like the this decoys posture.
I'm tempted to sell my 1/4 strut and buy the 3/4 I like the posture better
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Looks good. I asked the guys from DSD 3 yrs ago, to make one in a breeding posture.
They never did.
This Avian X 3/4 looks like it will be a winner. I may have to try one.
Thanks for posting.
I love the looks of it but the price just kills me for decoys. I picked up one of the HS Strut Jake Snood decoys for a song a few weeks ago. I think they have one of the best postures and color schemes in the industry!
That 3/4 strut jake looks pretty sweet. One thing I always liked about the 1/2 strut jake was that the head was exposed over the back of the decoy, displaying that red head to all angles... the new jake appears to have more of a tucked, dropped head.... Ill probably still have to have one though
Looks good. I like it.
Looks good. I think they're trying to make the pose more like the DSD Jake.
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Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
I've seem times you do need a decoy to kill a turkey...just like using more than one call...
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 25, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 25, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 25, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
x2
Have had unbelievable success with my DSD Jake!!
Can't see how it wouldn't work, just not a fan of Avian-X Decoys...
The only thing they haven't "made" is their version of DSD's Leading Hen decoy but that is probably next year's release.
MK M GOBL
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 25, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
I believe that decoy use during turkey hunting is a personal choice. I personally do not have an issue using them and am not above using them, but would rather hunt without. Although the interaction is a bit different with a decoy.
However, the "if it is legal, then it is OK" argument does not fly with me. Legal, by no means equates to ethical, and as hunters, we must stand as stewards of the sport.
I think the question about the decoy was what we think about the new Avian X NEW 3/4 strut decoy. I don't see were this has to do with the question of being ethical and good stewards of the land.. All he ask was how we like the NEW DECOY....Let's respect other members question or post...
Thanks Greg! And thanks to all all others who gave me their opinions as well.
Quote from: C.Kimzey95 on January 25, 2017, 11:58:14 PM
Thanks Greg! And thanks to all all others who gave me their opinions as well.
Your Welcome...
As I recall you're also a TN guy, west tn, if I remember right? Always like hearing from guys in the same state!
Quote from: C.Kimzey95 on January 26, 2017, 12:03:21 AM
As I recall you're also a TN guy, west tn, if I remember right? Always like hearing from guys in the same state!
Yes from West Tenn....yes the same....glad your on the forum....
http://hunt-indiana.com/thread/36685/stuffer-decoys
I got one of these many years ago and put a hen in front of it and have killed many birds that way.
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 25, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 25, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 25, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
x2
Wow, was just telling him to save his money, HE said he was a sucker for the " Overpriced Decoys"
Quote from: Fullfan on January 26, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 25, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 25, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 25, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
x2
Wow, was just telling him to save his money, HE said he was a sucker for the " Overpriced Decoys"
sometimes a gobbler comes in silence ....no need to gobble ...
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 26, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 26, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 25, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 25, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 25, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
x2
Wow, was just telling him to save his money, HE said he was a sucker for the " Overpriced Decoys"
sometimes a gobbler comes in silence ....no need to gobble ...
Agree and no need for overpriced decoys.. or any decoys as a matter of a fact...
Quote from: Fullfan on January 26, 2017, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 26, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 26, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 25, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 25, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 25, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on January 25, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
Save your money.. You don't need decoys to kill turkeys.
Maybe you don't. Not the point
And why would you care as long as it's legal?You hunt em how you want and everyone else will hunt em how they want!!
x2
Wow, was just telling him to save his money, HE said he was a sucker for the " Overpriced Decoys"
sometimes a gobbler comes in silence ....no need to gobble ...
Agree and no need for overpriced decoys.. or any decoys as a matter of a fact...
Look we all understand you don't like using decoys , but a lot of other people on this forum don't feel the same way... thanks for all your input...
I'm a West TN guy too. My DSD jake has had the crap beaten out it several times. The avian looks good but I'm a DSD fan.
Mid tn guy here cutt down. I know people that love DSD's.... I like the avian x's myself and have had pretty good luck with em. I typically don't let em get to the point where they beat the crap out of em! :z-guntootsmiley:
Quote from: C.Kimzey95 on January 26, 2017, 10:54:17 PM
Mid tn guy here cutt down. I know people that love DSD's.... I like the avian x's myself and have had pretty good luck with em. I typically don't let em get to the point where they beat the crap out of em! :z-guntootsmiley:
It's tough to do but one heckuva show. :turkey2:
The one time I did see it I missed on the first shot... too busy shaking bad to aim! :toothy9:
Related question to the original post...
How many birds do you think would come into the 3/4 strut jake, that would not come into the 1/2 strut jake or vice versa? Basically a slightly more aggressive pose, that might irritate a dominant tom, or scare off a submissive bird that has been taking a beating... Does the slightly more aggressive pose really initiate that instinctual response to fight, or does the mere presence of another bird do the same thing (i.e. the 1/2 strutter)?
Honestly, looking at the pose and having seen the realism of the 1/2 strutter, I do not think there would be very much difference between the DSD and the newest Avian as far as effectiveness (durability is a completely different topic though).
Quote from: Marc on January 26, 2017, 11:47:45 PM
Related question to the original post...
How many birds do you think would come into the 3/4 strut jake, that would not come into the 1/2 strut jake or vice versa? Basically a slightly more aggressive pose, that might irritate a dominant tom, or scare off a submissive bird that has been taking a beating... Does the slightly more aggressive pose really initiate that instinctual response to fight, or does the mere presence of another bird do the same thing (i.e. the 1/2 strutter)?
Honestly, looking at the pose and having seen the realism of the 1/2 strutter, I do not think there would be very much difference between the DSD and the newest Avian as far as effectiveness (durability is a completely different topic though).
agree, also someone said , look at how the head on the 3/4 strut was not near as high up as the 1/2 strut..i like the head on the 1/2 strut better...
Quote from: Marc on January 26, 2017, 11:47:45 PM
Related question to the original post...
How many birds do you think would come into the 3/4 strut jake, that would not come into the 1/2 strut jake or vice versa? Basically a slightly more aggressive pose, that might irritate a dominant tom, or scare off a submissive bird that has been taking a beating... Does the slightly more aggressive pose really initiate that instinctual response to fight, or does the mere presence of another bird do the same thing (i.e. the 1/2 strutter)?
Honestly, looking at the pose and having seen the realism of the 1/2 strutter, I do not think there would be very much difference between the DSD and the newest Avian as far as effectiveness (durability is a completely different topic though).
I've gone back and forth in my thinking about this. I can't talk myself into thinking it would work that much better than the 1/2 strut version that I currently own. I like the posture but agree on the statement that has been made on the head position. Thanks for your response Marc.
Can someone post a link to these decoys? The only one I see on Avian-X's website is the 1/4 Strut Jake. Or are my Google skills weak?
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Avian-X-LCD-Strut-Jake-Turkey-Decoy/2433252.uts
http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/358442/avian-x-lcd-quarter-strut-jake-turkey-decoy?cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Hunting+-+Turkey-_-Avian-X-_-358442&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_KvEBRCtzNil4-KR-LIBEiQAmgekF5o4xYplCmrVaPDdQyqzv-HbriRnOAj5u44WS8GXEWUaApEE8P8HAQ
The first one is what avian x labeled the 3/4 strut even though cabelas title says 1/2 strut. The second is their original 1/4 strut.
Quote from: C.Kimzey95 on January 27, 2017, 01:16:03 PM
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Avian-X-LCD-Strut-Jake-Turkey-Decoy/2433252.uts
http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/358442/avian-x-lcd-quarter-strut-jake-turkey-decoy?cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Hunting+-+Turkey-_-Avian-X-_-358442&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_KvEBRCtzNil4-KR-LIBEiQAmgekF5o4xYplCmrVaPDdQyqzv-HbriRnOAj5u44WS8GXEWUaApEE8P8HAQ
The first one is what avian x labeled the 3/4 strut even though cabelas title says 1/2 strut. The second is their original 1/4 strut.
Ahhh ok. I had seen that but didn't know the 1/2 was the 3/4. Thanks for the clarification.
Quote from: Marc on January 26, 2017, 11:47:45 PM
Related question to the original post...
How many birds do you think would come into the 3/4 strut jake, that would not come into the 1/2 strut jake or vice versa? Basically a slightly more aggressive pose, that might irritate a dominant tom, or scare off a submissive bird that has been taking a beating... Does the slightly more aggressive pose really initiate that instinctual response to fight, or does the mere presence of another bird do the same thing (i.e. the 1/2 strutter)?
Honestly, looking at the pose and having seen the realism of the 1/2 strutter, I do not think there would be very much difference between the DSD and the newest Avian as far as effectiveness (durability is a completely different topic though).
I think if a turkey is going to commit to a gobbler decoy he will commit weather its just a upright jake, 1/2 strut, or a full strutter. I have seen jakes standup to a full strutter decoy and long beards shy away from a upright jake. Also seen birds shy away from lone hen decoys. Its always tough to say when to use decoys. My recommendation is when it doubt leave it in the truck. I have had some great hunts over decoys and some very disappointing hunts over decoys as well.
I like that answer gobble. I do however think there are gobblers that would probably commit to a Jake decoy that wouldn't come into a strutter... I've never ran a Jake fan in a full strut decoy though either.... back not very long after I got into turkey hunting there were 4 gobblers running around our farm that absolutely wanted nothing to do with my killer B.... hunted them several times to no avail. Tried a Jake decoy one morning and all 4 of them came in to 15 yards and stomped that thing in the dirt. Me and my buddy doubled up. Fun hunt I won't forget! ...... All that being said I don't know if there would be any difference between the two Jake decoys.
There are times I use the jake with an upright hen in either the upright or staked as a breeder, but most of the time the jake is set as a sub to my strutter and have had great success with this set-up.
MK M GOBL