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Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 12, 2016, 05:16:06 PM
My wife just got me a new ORVIS HELIOS 2 flyrod 10' 5-wt tip flex! It is one of the lightest rods i've ever held. Compairing it to my SAGE ONE.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Marc on April 12, 2016, 05:42:38 PM
I have actually come to enjoy Orvis rods...  I have a salt-water #6 wt T-3, and a very light #3 wt T-3, and I love them both.  That #6 works well for bass and steelhead and I have been surprised with the bulky flies I can cast with that rod.  The #3 is just a fun rod for small stream fishing, but easily casts some of the larger stimulators and attractors I throw for those eager fish.

And, I do not believe there is a better reel for the money than the BattenKill.  Simple reel that has never failed (which I cannot say about my more expensive reels).

Avoid their waders though...  Had poor luck with mine.
Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: eddie234 on April 12, 2016, 05:53:04 PM
I bought two cabelas fly rods last year and the accessories to start fly fishing. I've practiced in the back yard and am hoping to get on the water soon. After I become proficient ill probably get a nice high end rod.
Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 12, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
I'm so spoiled. My several private turkey properties are close proximity to Montauk trout park. And turkey hunting stops at 1 in MO. Here's a pic from Saturday after the morning youth turkey hunt. I'm using a St. Croix Imperial 9.5' 5wt with a Cabelas RLS+ reel. I spend too much on turkey calls to afford a fancy Helios. Nice rod. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160412/35fb98268eb12aa9e0331728be3e3e33.jpg)
Bottomland camo with waiders on! Can it get any better?
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Hookinembig on April 12, 2016, 07:01:39 PM
Nice fish.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: wvmntnhick on April 12, 2016, 07:25:24 PM
Parents got me a cabelas 3 forks last year for birthday. It's a good set up but I've yet to use it. Used a reddington crosswater for several years. Really liked it. I blow too much money elsewhere to get high end fly fishing gear though. Used an scientific anglers rod for years until the blowout deal on the reddington.
Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Hankyorke on April 12, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: Ozark870Hunter on April 12, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
I'm so spoiled. My several private turkey properties are close proximity to Montauk trout park. And turkey hunting stops at 1 in MO. Here's a pic from Saturday after the morning youth turkey hunt. I'm using a St. Croix Imperial 9.5' 5wt with a Cabelas RLS+ reel. I spend too much on turkey calls to afford a fancy Helios. Nice rod. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160412/35fb98268eb12aa9e0331728be3e3e33.jpg)
Bottomland camo with waiders on! Can it get any better?

Do they still give out "I released a lunker..." patches?  I used to spend at least 4 days a month fishing Montauk & Bennett.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 12, 2016, 07:35:29 PM
I actually have a pair of the silver sonic guide waders.So far no problems with them. Typically we float though.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 12, 2016, 07:38:39 PM
For the money the imperial is a realy good fast action rod. Cant go wrong with a bvk either.
Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 12, 2016, 11:07:04 PM
Quote from: Hankyorke on April 12, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: Ozark870Hunter on April 12, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
I'm so spoiled. My several private turkey properties are close proximity to Montauk trout park. And turkey hunting stops at 1 in MO. Here's a pic from Saturday after the morning youth turkey hunt. I'm using a St. Croix Imperial 9.5' 5wt with a Cabelas RLS+ reel. I spend too much on turkey calls to afford a fancy Helios. Nice rod. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160412/35fb98268eb12aa9e0331728be3e3e33.jpg)
Bottomland camo with waiders on! Can it get any better?

Do they still give out "I released a lunker..." patches?  I used to spend at least 4 days a month fishing Montauk & Bennett.
Yes they still give out the patch. I actually caught and released a 4 lb'er or so last yr.
Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 12, 2016, 11:08:54 PM
I like my Imperial. It's served me well the last few years.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Marc on April 12, 2016, 11:15:20 PM
Quote from: sulpher turk on April 12, 2016, 05:16:06 PM
My wife just got me a new ORVIS HELIOS 2 flyrod 10' 5-wt tip flex! It is one of the lightest rods i've ever held. Compairing it to my SAGE ONE.
Just noticed you went with the tip flex...  I am thinking about the mid-flex myself.  I have found it easier to cast a tip-flex, but controlling line on the water seems easier to me with a mid-flex...  But I am still torn.

Why did you go with the tip flex as opposed to the mid-flex?
Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on April 12, 2016, 11:47:19 PM
I bought my wife an 8.5' 4 WT Imperial for Christmas.  Very nice rod.  My favorite dry fly rod is a Thomas and Thomas Special Dry Fly made in the 80s, which I had to really scrimp and save for as a poor college kid.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: eddie234 on April 13, 2016, 04:57:49 PM
This was my haul this past weekend.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/IMAG0557_zpshf1dvx5m.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/IMAG0557_zpshf1dvx5m.jpg.html)
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Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 13, 2016, 05:17:43 PM
Nice!
I'll be doing plenty of trout and bass fishing this next week.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 13, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
I just like the action of the tip flex faster for me!
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 13, 2016, 06:23:36 PM
Its realy prefrence of what type of flies your using ect. To me the tip flex is more responsive. Fits my style better.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: kjnengr on April 14, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
Silly guys, this is what you are supposed to fly fish for.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MFmFetQYx8xXUOi8V3zkyhIUIu9ptIvxyeaNVk8KXm8=s750-no)
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 14, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
Nice carp! What weight rod?
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: WildTigerTrout on April 14, 2016, 05:42:52 PM
I flyfish for trout only but I believe that is a Redfish.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 14, 2016, 06:17:16 PM
I think you're right. Never chased saltwater/brackish fish on the fly...yet.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: kevin2 on April 15, 2016, 07:19:50 AM
I love my Helios. BEST fly rod by far I've ever owned. NO comparison. Like a super light weight canon!
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: kjnengr on April 15, 2016, 09:13:11 AM
Quote from: Ozark870Hunter on April 14, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
Nice carp! What weight rod?

Yeah, as the others have said, it is a redfish.  I caught that one on a 7wt TFO TiCr that I wrapped myself.  We may not have that many turkeys down here, but we make up for it with the inshore fishing.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: dantheman on April 15, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: kjnengr on April 15, 2016, 09:13:11 AM
Quote from: Ozark870Hunter on April 14, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
Nice carp! What weight rod?

Yeah, as the others have said, it is a redfish.  I caught that one on a 7wt TFO TiCr that I wrapped myself.  We may not have that many turkeys down here, but we make up for it with the inshore fishing.
Hard to beat redfish on the fly. I am a cabelas rod guy myself . Bought 2 winstons and a helios and I prefer my cabelas mtx. I am also very happy with there lsi line of rods as well. Picked up 1 of there lsi spey rods for steelhead in 6wt that thing is a wand compared to the 10ft 8wt I started with.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: kjnengr on April 15, 2016, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: dantheman on April 15, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: kjnengr on April 15, 2016, 09:13:11 AM
Quote from: Ozark870Hunter on April 14, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
Nice carp! What weight rod?

Yeah, as the others have said, it is a redfish.  I caught that one on a 7wt TFO TiCr that I wrapped myself.  We may not have that many turkeys down here, but we make up for it with the inshore fishing.
Hard to beat redfish on the fly. I am a cabelas rod guy myself . Bought 2 winstons and a helios and I prefer my cabelas mtx. I am also very happy with there lsi line of rods as well. Picked up 1 of there lsi spey rods for steelhead in 6wt that thing is a wand compared to the 10ft 8wt I started with.

The real reason that redfish on the fly is so great is that it is a 90 -95% sight fishing thing.  You are actually more or less hunting the fish until its time to make the cast.  Then you get to watch them  flare their gills and suck up a fly or charge and crash it.  And they fight pretty good too.  Especially the bigger girls.

Title: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Ozark870Hunter on April 15, 2016, 03:26:06 PM
These were both landed by sighting then targeting. Love me a good set of polarized sunglasses!
Rainbow was 4.2lbs, and caught on my first rod. A Cabelas package deal.
Brownie was on a streamer.
Haven't goten a chance to fish the salt. The MO ozarks are pretty far from any ocean lol.   (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160415/3b1b8ba044ac1939522c43352f7cc468.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160415/65ee9c0c135a277576c7d7ca4e160eec.jpg)
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 16, 2016, 11:14:43 AM
UPDATE took the helios out this morning and the accuracy and presentation of a dry fly unmatched hands down. Now i see why they are so high priced! Rocket science in your hands. Blows the sage one out of the water.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 16, 2016, 11:24:58 AM
I even think it's a little better than my SAGE METHOD!
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 17, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Apparently the guy with red fish has never hooked a BIG BROWN!!!! :z-winnersmiley:
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Marc on April 17, 2016, 08:33:27 PM
Quote from: sulpher turk on April 17, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Apparently the guy with red fish has never hooked a BIG BROWN!!!! :z-winnersmiley:
???

A redfish would drown a brown if you tied them tail to tail...  Never caught a red on the fly, but I would compare them to fresh steelhead buck as far as fighting goes.  They dog ya' but they peel off some line.

I actually think pound for pound wild (non-steelhead) rainbows fight harder than browns do.  Steelhead are no comparison to either, and flat pull some line off the spool.

It seems in general, that salt-water or anadromous fish just seem to have more fight in them.

I caught this fish several years ago on a Sage SP 5 wt...  (Which I would very much like to trade in for the Helious)...  My biggest non-steelhead out of local waters to date, and very well might remain so till my death:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/msorsky/Rainbow-kings-river_zpsxeoaoc66.jpg) (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/msorsky/media/Rainbow-kings-river_zpsxeoaoc66.jpg.html)
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 18, 2016, 06:54:10 PM
Southern BIG BROWNS are fighters! I've caught Bone fish,Giant trevally, Strippers ect.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: FlyFishNut on April 18, 2016, 08:03:33 PM
Enjoy the new rod!

This is the hardest fighting fish in the water -  had one snap a 10wt.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 18, 2016, 08:34:54 PM
That is a beautiful fish! What is that?
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: sulpher turk on April 18, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
If you like the sage sp pick up the sage method its thier new rod its also pretty sweet.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Marc on April 18, 2016, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: FlyFishNut on April 18, 2016, 08:03:33 PM
Enjoy the new rod!

This is the hardest fighting fish in the water -  had one snap a 10wt.

Amber Jack???

Catching jacks is pure work sometimes.  I enjoyed catching smaller jack crevalle on light gear.  Pound for pound there is not a tougher fish to get in the boat as far as fighting.
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: Marc on April 18, 2016, 08:53:10 PM
Quote from: sulpher turk on April 18, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
If you like the sage sp pick up the sage method its thier new rod its also pretty sweet.

I got the Sage SP used early in my fly fishing career (paid $75 for it)...  I probably would not opt for it again, but will keep it as a spare when I do get a new rod.  It is possible I might be able to get a screaming deal on the Helios this year, and if I do, I will jump on it...
Title: Re: For all the fly fishermen!!!
Post by: FlyFishNut on April 19, 2016, 06:35:52 AM
Quote from: sulpher turk on April 18, 2016, 08:34:54 PM
That is a beautiful fish! What is that?

Yes - Amberjack, AJ, or "Reef Donkey".  I threw a fly the size of a brook trout and he sipped it off the surface down in Charleston, SC.

@Marc - yes they are work.  I prefer the 15lbers for fun.