Just out of curiosity, what has been the hardest kicking shell you have used for turkey hunting? I have only shot 3". Mine would be #6 Turkey Thugs.
Nitro 3.5, Win HV 3.5, Hevi 13 Magblend 3.5.
3.5 Nitro in 10 Ga. Mike
Probably either the 3.5" Win HVs or Nitros. I'm not sure which was worse, but they were both near the top of the list.
Any 3 1/2" shell in a pump gun will rock your world.
Quote from: agent eight seven O on March 30, 2016, 08:11:05 AM
Just out of curiosity, what has been the hardest kicking shell you have used for turkey hunting? I have only shot 3". Mine would be #6 Turkey Thugs.
Same here. Turkey Thugs kill on both ends.
Nitros kick as hard as anything I have ever shot or ever care to shoot.
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3.5" nitros and mag blends.
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10 gauge Nitros in a BPS...
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I think they all kick pretty hard!
It's hard for me to imagine anything hitting harder than a 3.5" mag blend. There has to be a way of quantifying kick in joules of energy or something
Quote from: maytom on March 30, 2016, 11:13:07 AM
Any 3 1/2" shell in a pump gun will rock your world.
Agreed! A newer 870 SM with the MagBlends bruised my middle finger behind the trigger guard every time I shot it.
We bought some Federal with seems like it was 2&3/8 oz of shot. In a 3&1/2" shell.
That was the hardest kicking shell I've shot.
3.5 inch mag blends in the old non ported 835 with the stock buttpad.
federal 3.5" 2 1/4 oz 4s
Fiocchi 3.5", 5s or 6s, 2.375oz. It's devastating to my shoulder.
No doubt for me the fiocchi 3-1/2 turkey load. Worst recoil ever,Never again! And there not even any good. It hurts just thinking about them. :'(
Anything 2 1/4 oz or more in a BPS 10.
I'd shoot ANY 3 1/2" shell in a 12 ga single or pump and like it a WHOLE LOT more.........
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on March 30, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
No doubt for me the fiocchi 3-1/2 turkey load. Worst recoil ever,Never again! And there not even any good. It hurts just thinking about them. :'(
yep that's for sure 2 3/8 oz. of shoulder bruising knock your eyeballs sideways, rearrange your thought processes. Terror in a pump shotgun :z-dizzy: :z-dizzy: :TrainWreck1:
I would never shoot one but the oversize/over pressure loads from Nitro would be my guess. How many loads have ever stuck in the barrel or blown a choke out? How bout somewhat regularly?
Meanest I've fired is the 3.5" Win HV 2oz loads. Holy rattled teeth Batman!
Quote from: Philippe on March 30, 2016, 03:59:19 PM
3.5 inch mag blends in the old non ported 835 with the stock buttpad.
AMEN!!! I can attest to that! I am not prone to recoil but two shots of these and I was thinking I could develop a bad flinch. That being said I did kill a gobbler that spring and never felt a thing but the other 2 shells will not be fired by me....
The 2-7/16 oz Nitro loads are the hardest kicking shell I've shot. Unreal!!! Ten gauge guns are heavier and although they move the shoulder it is not as sharp of a kick to me. Just my .02.
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Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on March 30, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
No doubt for me the fiocchi 3-1/2 turkey load. Worst recoil ever,Never again! And there not even any good. It hurts just thinking about them. :'(
yep that's for sure 2 3/8 oz. of shoulder bruising knock your eyeballs sideways, rearrange your thought processes. Terror in a pump shotgun :z-dizzy: :z-dizzy: :TrainWreck1:
Yep that's the feeling! Lolol!
Winchester XX magnums
I've shot a lot of different loads in a Benelli Nova, including 3.5" Nitros, Win HV, Win XX, and Hevi 2.25 oz loads. None of those hold a candle to a 3" Win HV or XX Mag out of a 12 gauge H&R Topper single barrel 12 gauge that weighs about 5 lbs, if that much. It's the only gun I own that I struggle to shoot accurately due to anticipating that gosh awful thump. That thing could out kick a pissed off mule.
Quote from: Tennessee Lead on March 30, 2016, 03:31:42 PM
We bought some Federal with seems like it was 2&3/8 oz of shot. In a 3&1/2" shell.
That was the hardest kicking shell I've shot.
Quote from: mlisandro on March 30, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
Fiocchi 3.5", 5s or 6s, 2.375oz. It's devastating to my shoulder.
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on March 30, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
No doubt for me the fiocchi 3-1/2 turkey load. Worst recoil ever,Never again! And there not even any good. It hurts just thinking about them. :'(
That's the load I meant to say. I was thinking Federal but it was Fiocchi.
My 835 paired with those was almost unbearable.
Quote from: Yoder409 on March 30, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Anything 2 1/4 oz or more in a BPS 10.
I'd shoot ANY 3 1/2" shell in a 12 ga single or pump and like it a WHOLE LOT more.........
A lot of 3-1/2" 12 ga are 2-1/4 oz loads. The guns can weigh less, I've never shot turkey loads from a bps though.
Quote from: mlisandro on March 30, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
Fiocchi 3.5", 5s or 6s, 2.375oz. It's devastating to my shoulder.
These!!! Bought a box a few years back to try. Took one shot to try and all I have to say is never again!! Slide me back a couple of inches on my shooting bench and took the forearm right out of my front hand. OUCH!! My buddies were laughing so hard at me that it brought tears to there eyes! I got the last laugh on them though as they each took one shot with them, and neither one of them will touch that load either! Both of those guys have about 80 pounds on me also. Who needs an elephant gun to kill a turkey! By the way, they didn't pattern worth a darn.
2.5oz TSS packs a punch.
Quote from: Longshanks on March 30, 2016, 08:40:05 AM
Nitro 3.5, Win HV 3.5, Hevi 13 Magblend 3.5.
x5000000 hit the nail on the head
Those 12GA 3.5in Black Winchester shells ... man those would knock the fire out of you. I have shot them all, and that shell really rocked your brain.
I hated to pattern them, I would get a tear in eye for the anticipated pain before I pulled the trigger. And all of that was out of a gas operated 11-87... I could only imagine a pump or single shot.
I wonder if there is a way to measure the amount of force from the recoil. Would love to know in numbers the abuse our shoulders take.
3.5" 12 ga nitro h517 in an h&r single shot weighing 5.8 lbs.
Winchester H.V. without a doubt. They will loosen teeth
If I remember correctly it was reported that a 3.5" turkey load has more recoil than a .458
Great thread, I've smiled a lot reading these. I remember the one time I shot a BPS 10, not sure the shell mattered. My vote goes to black win supreme 3 1/2 2oz #5 at 1300fps out of an 870 super. The only time I felt the recoil while actually shooting at a turkey. The sad thing was 3" shells would out shoot the 3 1/2's
Quote from: trkehunr93 on March 31, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
I wonder if there is a way to measure the amount of force from the recoil. Would love to know in numbers the abuse our shoulders take.
There is:
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmrecoil-5.1.cgi (http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmrecoil-5.1.cgi)
FWIW- (Hevi Mag Blend)3"/2oz(874gr+25gr wad/components)@1200fps in a scoped Win 1300(weighed @7.5# with mounted scope) generates 60# of free recoil.
The 3.5" /2.25oz Mag blend in 7.5# gun is insane at 76# of free recoil.
Here are some rifle #'s for comparison:)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm (http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm)
So those dang mag blends I was shooting DO kick harder than a 50 BMG. 74>70 WOW
About the time I bought my 870 Supermagnum Remington introduced their Hevi-Shot shells, and they were the talk of the town. So I bought two boxes (ten shells in each) in 3.5" #6 and went out to pattern them in my new gun. I could only stand it for ten shots. My shoulder was yellow and purple for two weeks after that session. I put twenty years in the Marines and know how to shot a gun to minimize recoil, but that was punishment. I immediately installed a Knoxx Spec Ops Recoil Reducing Stock and a Limbsaver recoil pad. I currently shoot Winchester Extended Range HD 3.5" # 6 or Hevi-13 3.5" #7 without any pain.
I know my 2 7-16oz Nitros kick unbelievably hard. Not fun to shoot.
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Any of the 12 gauge turkey loads hurt! Lol. I'm so spoiled shooting the 20 gauge now I prolly wouldn't survive touching off a 12 haha
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Anyone ever shoot a remingtion hypersonic steel shell. Holy cow ????
3 1/2" Fiocchi...They put evil in those damned things!
I gave a few to a friend. He tried to give 'em back...He calls them "Ferocchi's"
10 ga in my H&R
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Nitro, Magblends, and the old Fed 2 1/4 once. All 3.5"
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Anyone ever shoot a remingtion hypersonic steel shell. Holy cow ????
ain't those something like 1700fps, that's just scary to think about!
3.5 Winchester Supremes....
Stinky said it best. Those shells remind you just how attached your shoulder is to the rest of your body!
I had a man tell me one time about a Nitro load for a 10 gauge that was 3 onces of shot, never seen him shoot it but he said he believed a train wreck would hurt less than shooting that load at a pattern board.
Fiochi 3.5 inch 2 3/8 oz 12 gauge simply brutal and patterns terrible
3.5" magblends and the old Federal 3.5" 2&1/4 oz.shells are the hardest kicking shells I have shot. But they killed on both ends so it was worth the pain. I had an old 835 non ported barrel and that thing was brutal with any 3.5".
The old nitro economy loads. 3 oz of 4 & 5 lead and 7 hevi shot in a ten gauge, and the same combo but less shot in a twelve. Killed on both ends.
The Remington hypersonic steel ducks loads kick like a mule I gave two boxes two a friend and won't shoot them anymore.
Quote from: blueridgegobbler on April 05, 2016, 03:03:45 PM
Fiochi 3.5 inch 2 3/8 oz 12 gauge simply brutal and patterns terrible
You said a mouthful there Gobbler!
I had a 10 ga. that I shot 3 1/2" Nitro, I think 3 oz. payload. That hurt something terrible but I think the 3 1/2" "Ferocchi's" had an edge on them! Out of my SBE II, they were just plain blunt force trauma!