Looking to purchase a FFlll for my SBEll, which dot size do you prefer?
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Couple of threads on this that are pretty long if you do a search for it. It's a mixed response but seems the 3 is a bit more popular. I personally like the 3 and think the 8 is way to big
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Quote from: reynolds243 on March 26, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
Couple of threads on this that are pretty long if you do a search for it. It's a mixed response but seems the 3 is a bit more popular. I personally like the 3 and think the 8 is way to big
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Thanks for the response reynolds, that's kinda what I thought might be most popular. I actually did a few searches and got a little overwhelmed with all the search results.
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Sure man. It comes down to preference obviously. I like a small as possible dot so I can aim more precise at longer ranges. That's just my preference though
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Link has a pic that can give you a pretty good idea of the two sizes. Just put a FFIII on my SBEII as well and really like the 3 but like reynolds said its more personal preference.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?topic=40643.15
Quote from: kwcb12 on March 26, 2016, 11:14:54 PM
Link has a pic that can give you a pretty good idea of the two sizes. Just put a FFIII on my SBEII as well and really like the 3 but like reynolds said its more personal preference.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?topic=40643.15
Thanks for that great Iink kwcb, kinda feel silly now for starting another thread on a topic that has clearly been dealt with.
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No problem man. Just went through the same thing trying to decide. Found this link and it sealed the deal for me on the 3.
One thing I will say about the 8 is that it can be very helpful in range estimation. I shoot a 20 and if the dot fits inside the gobblers head im inside 40, blocks it out and im 40 or more away. Not precise, but can be helpful in pinch. I like my 8.
Quote from: codym on March 27, 2016, 12:48:10 PM
One thing I will say about the 8 is that it can be very helpful in range estimation. I shoot a 20 and if the dot fits inside the gobblers head im inside 40, blocks it out and im 40 or more away. Not precise, but can be helpful in pinch. I like my 8.
Thanks for the input, I could see how that might be helpful.
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Love my 8 MOA dot!
Have both and prefer the 3...I dont like the way the 8 obscures the target and prefer the more precise aiming of the smaller dot.
I've never actually used the 8, but after seeing R243's 3 MOA, I ordered the same thing. I like the feel of "precision", even though it's a shotgun.
Some people have mentioned being able to use the 8 MOA to judge distance by how much of a turkeys head is covered up. I can see how that would be beneficial, but not worth the larger dot to me.
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 27, 2016, 08:29:17 PM
Have both and prefer the 3...I dont like the way the 8 obscures the target and prefer the more precise aiming of the smaller dot.
After seeing the pictures I think a partially obscured target would be bothersome for me, but I get why some would like the 8.
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Quote from: TNReb on March 27, 2016, 08:35:36 PM
I've never actually used the 8, but after seeing R243's 3 MOA, I ordered the same thing. I like the feel of "precision", even though it's a shotgun.
Some people have mentioned being able to use the 8 MOA to judge distance by how much of a turkeys head is covered up. I can see how that would be beneficial, but not worth the larger dot to me.
I understand what you're saying about the precision, I also feel like that would suit me better.
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Also, if you ever wanted to put the sight on another gun that may require more precision the small dot would be better. Not to throw a wrench in the works but have you looked at the vortex. The vortex shares the same footprint as the burris but has several more light intensity settings. The one thing that I dont care for on the burris that it only has 3 settings and dont always fit differing lighting situations well. Good luck
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 28, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
Also, if you ever wanted to put the sight on another gun that may require more precision the small dot would be better. Not to throw a wrench in the works but have you looked at the vortex. The vortex shares the same footprint as the burris but has several more light intensity settings. The one thing that I dont care for on the burris that it only has 3 settings and dont always fit differing lighting situations well. Good luck
I will check it out, but big plus for the Burris is the speed bead mount, does Vortex offer any mounting options like that?
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 28, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
Also, if you ever wanted to put the sight on another gun that may require more precision the small dot would be better. Not to throw a wrench in the works but have you looked at the vortex. The vortex shares the same footprint as the burris but has several more light intensity settings. The one thing that I dont care for on the burris that it only has 3 settings and dont always fit differing lighting situations well. Good luck
I will check it out, but big plus for the Burris is the speed bead mount, does Vortex offer any mounting options like that?
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 28, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
Also, if you ever wanted to put the sight on another gun that may require more precision the small dot would be better. Not to throw a wrench in the works but have you looked at the vortex. The vortex shares the same footprint as the burris but has several more light intensity settings. The one thing that I dont care for on the burris that it only has 3 settings and dont always fit differing lighting situations well. Good luck
I'll check it out. A big plus for the Burris is the speed bead mount, does Vortex offer anything like that?
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 28, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
Also, if you ever wanted to put the sight on another gun that may require more precision the small dot would be better. Not to throw a wrench in the works but have you looked at the vortex. The vortex shares the same footprint as the burris but has several more light intensity settings. The one thing that I dont care for on the burris that it only has 3 settings and dont always fit differing lighting situations well. Good luck
I'll check it out. A big plus for the Burris is the speed bead mount, does Vortex offer anything like that?
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The previous poster mentioned Vortex. I have a Vortex Sparc II, and highly recommend. It has a 2 MOA dot and I wouldn't want bigger than that. Close in, say 20 yds or less I can get really accurate, which aids for tight shooting choke/loads. The sparc has 10 levels of brightness. If you want to see proof why it's probably the toughest red dot out there, check out this : http://www.recoilweb.com/vortex-sparc-ii-the-dot-that-would-not-die-67267.html
Here is the best pic of the dot I could get, if it's helpful. Click on picture to see it bigger. At 40 yds, it is great too. I've had a small sight like the fastfire, and like this better. Hope this is helpful.
I have the 8....had the 4 in the II, and just didn't want it to be any smaller...
The 8 is very good for me in low light, much better than the 4 was...
The 8 is a tad big, especially at full power, but I still prefer it over the 3....
More of my shots are in low light, so I would buy the 8 again...especially given that the brightness is adjustable...
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I have the 8....had the 4 in the II, and just didn't want it to be any smaller...
The 8 is very good for me in low light, much better than the 4 was...
The 8 is a tad big, especially at full power, but I still prefer it over the 3....
More of my shots are in low light, so I would buy the 8 again...especially given that the brightness is adjustable...
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I bought the 3 moa and it's been phenomenal. Plenty easy to see. Precise...The brightness settings are great. The auto brightness setting takes care of pretty much everything and the other great qualities of this reflex sight make it one of the best, in my opinion. Light weight. Unobtrusive. Durable. And the warranty...Great addition to any turkey gun!
Quote from: sixbird on March 28, 2016, 11:46:14 PM
I bought the 3 moa and it's been phenomenal. Plenty easy to see. Precise...The brightness settings are great. The auto brightness setting takes care of pretty much everything and the other great qualities of this reflex sight make it one of the best, in my opinion. Light weight. Unobtrusive. Durable. And the warranty...Great addition to any turkey gun!
Warne makes a nice small mount for the SBE II. You'll need to drill and tap one hole. Those receivers can be REALLY hard, depending on when it was made (early ones harder) so a good smith is in order...The Burris 336 mount is the lowest you'll find but it's quite a bit longer. You can raise the comb by getting the medium height riser from Benelli. They're pricey but make a nice installation.
Smaller dot in my opinion. Someone else mentioned Vortex, and I'd highly recommend. I have the Vortex Sparc II, it has a 2MOA dot and I can get really accurate close in, and it's perfect at 40. Attached is best pic I could get of the dot. Click on to see bigger. The Sparc has 10 brightness levels. If you want to see how tough it is, check this out: http://www.recoilweb.com/vortex-sparc-ii-the-dot-that-would-not-die-67267.html
I've had a reflex sight with a larger dot and didn't like how it covered the target further out. Hope this is helpful. Good luck!
I have the 8 on my 20GA rig, and I really like it.
Vortex posted this on their Facebook today. Looks perfect! Is it April 1st already?
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 28, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
Also, if you ever wanted to put the sight on another gun that may require more precision the small dot would be better. Not to throw a wrench in the works but have you looked at the vortex. The vortex shares the same footprint as the burris but has several more light intensity settings. The one thing that I dont care for on the burris that it only has 3 settings and dont always fit differing lighting situations well. Good luck
According to the Vortex website their Venom sight is compatible with the Burris Speed Bead, that plus an unconditional warranty makes them a pretty attractive option.
Quote from: lindllc on March 29, 2016, 08:52:26 AM
Smaller dot in my opinion. Someone else mentioned Vortex, and I'd highly recommend. I have the Vortex Sparc II, it has a 2MOA dot and I can get really accurate close in, and it's perfect at 40. Attached is best pic I could get of the dot. Click on to see bigger. The Sparc has 10 brightness levels. If you want to see how tough it is, check this out: http://www.recoilweb.com/vortex-sparc-ii-the-dot-that-would-not-die-67267.html
I've had a reflex sight with a larger dot and didn't like how it covered the target further out. Hope this is helpful. Good luck!
That was quite a test, thanks for the link. I don't really intend to do any of those things to my sight so I guess it should last me forever.