Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
Now is the time for gun laws on the books to be enforced. Not create a new one, especially when it does what one on the books already does. This accomplishes nothing other than taking steps to take liberties from law abiding Americans.
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Quote from: davisd9 on January 05, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
Now is the time for gun laws on the books to be enforced. Not create a new one, especially when it does what one on the books already does. This accomplishes nothing other than taking steps to take liberties from law abiding Americans.
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I totally agree!!
Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
Really?
Quote from: USMC0331 on January 05, 2016, 08:11:49 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on January 05, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
Now is the time for gun laws on the books to be enforced. Not create a new one, especially when it does what one on the books already does. This accomplishes nothing other than taking steps to take liberties from law abiding Americans.
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I totally agree!!
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I was in Hillsville VA over the Labor Day Weekend. This is a Gun Show/Yard Sale with around 500,000 people attending. I walked my legs off. The one thing we didn't see was a bunch of gangbangers walking around buying up guns. Washington is out of touch with reality. I really don't have a problem registering a firearm. What I do have a problem with is when a criminal uses a gun the court system and lawyer plea the case an the criminal just walks. Do I mean we shouldn't have gun laws NO that's not what I'm saying. They Should be Enforcing the Laws we already have. As long as we have lawlessness in America I WILL have a gun even if that means I have to become Lawless Myself. I once swear to protect the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. Never have I un-swear that pledge.
Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
Is this a joke?
Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
This is the problem wth fuds, I stand with the NRA, now and always!
Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
WOW. Just a small piece of advice, comments like this on Old Gobbler wont make you very many friends (we are all entitled to our own opinions but this site is a very pro gun site). There is nothing that this president has done that would earn him a "bravo" in my opinion.
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Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
WOW. Just a small piece of advice, comments like this on Old Gobbler wont make you very many friends (we are all entitled to our own opinions but this site is a very pro gun site). There is nothing that this president has done that would earn him a "bravo" in my opinion.
Amen to that brother, just where is this guy coming from anyway?
Since when is it the presidents job to make law anyway. I pray that every unconstitutional executive order he has written is reversed when our new president takes office. I'm also praying that will come sooner than later. As for Bob. Troll.
Obama didn't do much anyway but cry. :z-guntootsmiley:
First of all I'm not anti gun. I own guns that I use for hunting and sport shooting. I also believe that I as a gun owner need to look at the reality of the situation. Not all people should have firearms.
If there are laws that are not being enforced I'd like to know why not.
As for making friends, I could care less if a person that owns guns doesn't like me for my position.
I also believe that there are others on this sight that believe in responsible gun control.
What laws what have prevented any of these shootings from happening?
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Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
I can't speak for everyone on this site--but for me--to heck with Obama and I denouce him, you and others like you that choose to "sleep with the enemy".
Cat daddy.....you got it right...
The president has never did anything to deserve a bravo ! Go back in your hole Bob !
Bob, I will not get on here and call you names or take pot shots at you but I truly feel you are seriously misinformed . You need to do some serious research of the existing guns laws both federal and state and not just take what you hear from the media and nightly news as being what is current and accurate. While what has occurred the last few years is both tragic and incomprehensible to most people, there is NOTHING in what was described by Mr. Obama's executive order that would have stopped or reduced any incidence of the violence that he professes to try and curb. Every incidence of gun violence that he has mention have at least one thing in common , ALL OF THE OFFENDERS WERE PROHIBITED FROM OWNING OR POSSESSING A GUN UNDER CURRENT EXISTING GUN LAWS. He has stated repeatedly that his biggest failure ( his words not mine as I strongly disagree) has been the inability to change gun laws and I feel this is one on his last gasp efforts to do something that is on HIS agenda(my fear is this the first of several that he will burden the country with). You are absolutely entitled to your opinion , thanks to USMC0311 and others like him , however I implore you to do more research on your own from reputable sources and not regurgitate what is fed to you from the mainstream media before forming your final opinion.
This country has a heart problem, and no legislation will fix that. Hate is what is killing people.
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Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2016, 02:42:11 PM
First of all I'm not anti gun. I own guns that I use for hunting and sport shooting. I also believe that I as a gun owner need to look at the reality of the situation. Not all people should have firearms.
If there are laws that are not being enforced I'd like to know why not.
As for making friends, I could care less if a person that owns guns doesn't like me for my position.
I also believe that there are others on this sight that believe in responsible gun control.
Think all the guys on here are responsible. In fact responsible enough to follow the only law we need. Do not murder. The liberal agenda is so flawed, tilted n spun anyone believes it is either a brainwashed teacher, or a person who gets hand outs.
By no means do I want to disrespect your opinion but to be frank it's nuts.
How bout since most murders happen in cities they raid the gang bangers hang outs? They shouldn't be allowed to have guns. How bout not protecting the politicians. Lots of libs want equality. So unarm the security details. Talking nice might work to a criminal. Ugh I ain't getting started. No one is gonna agree w you
No gun law has or ever will prevent someone hell bent on murder or destruction from carrying out there act. The very definition of the word "criminal" should make it very clear that no amount of laws will prevent these things from happening.
No I am not saying everybody should be able to own a gun,but this so called "president" wants all your guns make no mistake about it. He tries to hide his agenda behind tears and lies appealing to the idiots and low information voters,also known as liberal democrats.
Remember this is the same guy who looked America in the eye on TV and promised that "If you like your doctor you can keep him" and that your health care premiums would go down and be much more affordable. Ya we see how that worked out.
As far as i'm concerned the NRA is the only reason we still have what gun rights we have left today.
Quote from: VaBoy on January 06, 2016, 04:20:57 PM
Bob, I will not get on here and call you names or take pot shots at you but I truly feel you are seriously misinformed . You need to do some serious research of the existing guns laws both federal and state and not just take what you hear from the media and nightly news as being what is current and accurate. While what has occurred the last few years is both tragic and incomprehensible to most people, there is NOTHING in what was described by Mr. Obama's executive order that would have stopped or reduced any incidence of the violence that he professes to try and curb. Every incidence of gun violence that he has mention have at least one thing in common , ALL OF THE OFFENDERS WERE PROHIBITED FROM OWNING OR POSSESSING A GUN UNDER CURRENT EXISTING GUN LAWS. He has stated repeatedly that his biggest failure ( his words not mine as I strongly disagree) has been the inability to change gun laws and I feel this is one on his last gasp efforts to do something that is on HIS agenda(my fear is this the first of several that he will burden the country with). You are absolutely entitled to your opinion , thanks to USMC0311 and others like him , however I implore you to do more research on your own from reputable sources and not regurgitate what is fed to you from the mainstream media before forming your final opinion.
Thanks Vaboy for not attacking me personally for my opinions. I like to think that I am informed and I do not get my information from any one source but try and consider all points of view. I don't take my stance lightly and without considering many things.
The fact of the matter is that innocent people lose their lives everyday to gun violence in the US. Can laws Illiminate that totally. No. Drunk driving laws haven't illuminated drunk driving, that doesn't stop us from trying. I do believe that reasonable people should at least try.
If laws on the book aren't being enforced then demanding that they are enforced would be a good start. Obama asked congress to fund more ATF agents. That's a good start.
Background checks, why not. If you get pulled over for speeding they do a background check.
The real problem is the gun industry and the NRA's unwillingness to discuss the problem. The NRA declined Obama's invitation to join the upcoming town hall meeting. Why.
If we as gun owners continue to fight the windmill with unreasonable rhetoric we will lose and the anti gun crowd will make the rules. I don't want that
Guns are not the issue in these horrendous crimes anymore than cars are responsible for the murders that were committed recently in Oklahoma and Las Vegas. Should there be an executive order to make a car sale between two individuals be registered because it involves a potentially lethal weapon if it is misused by a criminal? In addition, our country's government was put in place by some incredibly wise men who understood the need for checks and balances with a legislative, judicial, and executive branch to keep each other in check. Executive orders that potentially take away the constitutional rights of the citizens without the review of the other two branches should not be allowed or tolerated.
I firmly believe Obama invite to the NRA was nothing more than a ploy to set them up in a situation where no matter what they said they'd be made to look like the root of the problem. You can guarantee a townhall meeting set up by Obama would have a loaded crowd of bleeding heart libs and media in the crowd. I completely agree the strict enforcement of current laws is what is needed. As far as the background check remember that driving is a priviledge,owning a firearm is a constitutional right.
It's funny how these liberals are all about saving innocent lives thru gun control but they're all in favor of murdering babies thru abortions.that alone should tell you where their motives really lie.
Quote from: jakesdad on January 06, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
I firmly believe Obama invite to the NRA was nothing more than a ploy to set them up in a situation where no matter what they said they'd be made to look like the root of the problem. You can guarantee a townhall meeting set up by Obama would have a loaded crowd of bleeding heart libs and media in the crowd. I completely agree the strict enforcement of current laws is what is needed. As far as the background check remember that driving is a priviledge,owning a firearm is a constitutional right.
It's funny how these liberals are all about saving innocent lives thru gun control but they're all in favor of murdering babies thru abortions.that alone should tell you where their motives really lie.
The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a constitutional right also. How are the victims of gun violence making out with their rights
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms. It does not say anything about firearms.
Quote from: vaturkey on January 06, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
The president has never did anything to deserve a bravo ! Go back in your hole Bob !
How about you put me in my hole
Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: jakesdad on January 06, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
I firmly believe Obama invite to the NRA was nothing more than a ploy to set them up in a situation where no matter what they said they'd be made to look like the root of the problem. You can guarantee a townhall meeting set up by Obama would have a loaded crowd of bleeding heart libs and media in the crowd. I completely agree the strict enforcement of current laws is what is needed. As far as the background check remember that driving is a priviledge,owning a firearm is a constitutional right.
It's funny how these liberals are all about saving innocent lives thru gun control but they're all in favor of murdering babies thru abortions.that alone should tell you where their motives really lie.
The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a constitutional right also. How are the victims of gun violence making out with their rights
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms. It does not say anything about firearms.
What is the 2nd amendment referring to as arms if it says nothing about firearms?
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Hey Bob while we are at it, more people are killed by cars every year why not require background checks before you get a driver's license or buy cars, people are killed by knives let's permit them,people get killed by hammers let's require permits and background checks for hammers. And by the way the President does not write laws, he's in the wrong branch, Congress writes the law, the Executive branch enforces them. Mr Obama has violated the Constitution. He is trampling on our rights. Read the histories about the Framers of the Constitution, almost to a man they framed the 2nd amendment in the Bill of Rights it is that important. The safety of yourself and your family is up to you and your responsibility, period. Look what happened in Australia, they started with only assault weapons, they ended up taking all firearms except double barrel shotguns and bolt action rifles, 870's 1100's, lever guns and all their like they seized and destroyed. I don't trust government to act in my interest. As Charlton Heston said, " from my cold dead hands...." What I'm trying to say is it is our duty watch out for our rights. This country's judicial system leaves much to be desired. They coddle criminals and harass the law abiding. Every time they tighten gun laws who are they targeting and hurting, the law abiding citizen and they do nothing to the criminal. Just read the paper every day.........
Sure lets make more laws and punish the law abiding citizens....makes alot of sense to me!! Why were at it lets make crack, heroin, meth and other hard core drugs illegal to I'm sure it will fix our drug problem....since more laws will fix things! I've worked in law enforcement since I was 18....simple fact...law abiding citizens follow the laws...criminals do not...I know that is so hard to figure out! That is why I will always have a job and job security. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country and they have the highest gun related crimes....3 hours into the new year they had there first homicide with a firearm! There is plenty of laws on the book to crack down on criminals and thugs...stop handing out hugs and second chances and enforce and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law....the LAWS we have!! Will that happen why no....lets punish the ones that do follow the law. Nothing Obama passed would have stopped any of the mass shootings....and a funny thing is all of the mass shootings were in GUN FREE ZONES!!! I'm just a hillbilly (or as our fearless leaders says I'm a religious nut that clings to my guns and Bible)....and I can figure this out and they pay these stooges 6 figures and they cant even tie there shoes and figure out the issues at hand. The second amendment is the gateway to our freedom that is why its the second amendment it meant that much to our founding fathers. Since the President does not write the law and congress does...and while he stomps all over our rights all the clowns in Washington will do nothing! What a joke!
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms. It does not say anything about firearms.
[/quote]Hard to argue with someone that doesn't even understand 2nd amendment curious to what you think " the right to bear arms means " and your really just not getting it if you think anything that nut of president passes as far as gun laws will stop any violence
Quote from: turkeyfoot on January 06, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms. It does not say anything about firearms.
Hard to argue with someone that doesn't even understand 2nd amendment curious to what you think " the right to bear arms means " and your really just not getting it if you think anything that nut of president passes as far as gun laws will stop any violence
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NO he's more worried about releasing thousands of felons with reductions in sentences...then help them get a fed job by not having to put on there application there a convicted felon! What a joke!!
Obama is a joke!
John Lott has most of the answers to this issue: http://crimeresearch.org/
As for me, responsible gun control means a sharp focus on the front sight in a deadly force situation that I did not create and from which I or some other innocent person cannot safely extricate ourselves. Evil exists.
Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: jakesdad on January 06, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
I firmly believe Obama invite to the NRA was nothing more than a ploy to set them up in a situation where no matter what they said they'd be made to look like the root of the problem. You can guarantee a townhall meeting set up by Obama would have a loaded crowd of bleeding heart libs and media in the crowd. I completely agree the strict enforcement of current laws is what is needed. As far as the background check remember that driving is a priviledge,owning a firearm is a constitutional right.
It's funny how these liberals are all about saving innocent lives thru gun control but they're all in favor of murdering babies thru abortions.that alone should tell you where their motives really lie.
The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a constitutional right also. How are the victims of gun violence making out with their rights
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms. It does not say anything about firearms.
So how am I making out with my rights if I can't defend myself and my family? If the 2nd amendment stating the right to bear arms doesn't mean firearms,what does it mean? A left arm and a right arm? I'm sorry but it seems to me you've been drinking too much of the liberal kook-aid.
Shooot how did I miss out on this thread.
The president is so full of crap, he is not out for Americas best interest. That guy is a phony piece o shiz..
The most alarming thing to me is that with his EO's the FBI/ATF whomever is conducting these "background checks" have access to everyone's medical records. Sounds like a good idea until you consider the fact that if at any point you had counseling or took anti depressants the government will now have the authority to strip you of your rights to gun ownership. There is more to it than that, but essentially they are creating a foot in the door to strip people of their 2A rights.
Let me leave you all with something.
The Cloward-Piven aka "Coward Proven" strategy is based on the teachings of Saul Alinsky a communist socialist died about 43 years ago, but his writings have influenced the politicians who control our today.
Hillary Clinton did a college thesis on his writings and Barack Hussein Obama writes about him in his books.
Died: June 12, 1972,
Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky.
Books:
Rules for Liberal Radicals
Reveille for Radicals
Anyone think this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?
All eight rules are currently in play.
There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a Liberal Socialist state.
The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare: Control healthcare and you control the people.
DONE.
2) Poverty: Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
DONE.
3) Debt: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
DONE.
4) Gun Control: Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government.
That way you are able to create a police state.
WORKING ON IT.
5) Welfare: Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
DONE.
6) Education: Take control of what people read and listen to. Take control of what children learn in school.
DONE.
7) Religion: Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
DONE.
8) Class Warfare: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
DONE.
Any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?
Alinsky simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule.
Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."
The "Useful" Liberal Idiots have destroyed every in which they have seized power and control. It's presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
If people can read this and still say everything is just fine. They're the useful idiots. "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
Hillary Clinton a liberal Socialist is running for office! She is backed by George Soros a Communist Socialist who backs and controls the Devout Muslim, Barack Hussein Obama...
357 is spot on. It's sad to say Obama had approx 48% of the vote going in to the last election. I also think this is a set up to help Hillary in. Her comments about what Numb Nuts did can be undone by the next president.
Agree entirely, and the Republicans have already stated their first actions would be to undo what Obama has done.
If that crooked witch gets in office that is literally the end of free America as we know it.
Guys the coolest thing on this site is all the great guys n lack of arguing you find on other sites. We're all capable of getting angry when people try n tread on things we're passionate about. Many have stated liberalism is a mental disorder. It certainly is. No sense trying to convince some half wit into making sense. They aren't capable. Not calling anyone in particular names btw. Someone on opposite sides cannot and will not be convinced. Be cool to see their faces if the old lady gets indicted n Trump wins!
Let this thread die is my opinion
Looks like BOB needs to seat down and have a talk with UNCLE TED
Man I sure do like turkey hunting!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: mwr on January 07, 2016, 03:09:49 PM
Man I sure do like turkey hunting!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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While we're at it why don't we trim down some of those other Constitutional ammendments too.
How about that First amendment? The news paper ticks me off some days, and let's not get started on CNN or Al Jazeera Network. Let's muzzle the ones I don't like. Or maybe the ones Obama doesn't like? Who gets to choose?
How about that Fourteenth amendment? Did we really need to make freed slaves (or their ancestors) citizens? Oooh, it's getting sensitive on these things isn't it?
The Fifth amendment keeps criminals from confessing so we ought to do away with that one too.
The Fourth amendment helps criminals get away with crime. The police really ought to be able to search the criminals and their houses to root out crime. After all, people are hurt by crime all the time.
Ok, back to reality. See how slippery the slope is when people begin to give up freedoms and rights for safety? Soon, they wind up with neither.
I originally typed a vary lengthy post but I'll simplify it......Im a cop and he's a POS!
Legacy!!!!! His legacy is that he's the worst hands down!!!!!!
LOL, the entertainment value of some of the responses is priceless. Nothing hurts worse than being called dirty names like liberal, socialist etc., by people that have no concept of the meaning of those words. I'd like to respond at further length but I'm heading out to shoot a coyote or two.
Quote from: Tail Feathers on January 07, 2016, 09:58:28 PM
While we're at it why don't we trim down some of those other Constitutional ammendments too.
How about that First amendment? The news paper ticks me off some days, and let's not get started on CNN or Al Jazeera Network. Let's muzzle the ones I don't like. Or maybe the ones Obama doesn't like? Who gets to choose?
How about that Fourteenth amendment? Did we really need to make freed slaves (or their ancestors) citizens? Oooh, it's getting sensitive on these things isn't it?
The Fifth amendment keeps criminals from confessing so we ought to do away with that one too.
The Fourth amendment helps criminals get away with crime. The police really ought to be able to search the criminals and their houses to root out crime. After all, people are hurt by crime all the time.
Ok, back to reality. See how slippery the slope is when people begin to give up freedoms and rights for safety? Soon, they wind up with neither.
Perfectly said Tail feathers! These Rights (not Privileges) are why we broke away from England 240 years ago. People have DIED defending these RIGHTS and we cannot allow anyone to take away, even a small portion of these Rights.
Quote from: Bob on January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
Bravo Mr. President. Now is the time for responsible gun owners to stand and denounce the NRA and its corporate sponsors.
I thought this was a turkey hunting forum and not a place to put forwad idioct and ignorant political views?
Sound familar there boboo? Do you even live in the US?
Did I tell you I really LOVE Turkey Hunting???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
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Well, we're all entitled to our opinions, but I'm surprised to hear an opinion like that from a hunter, on a hunting site.
Bob
Don't know how I missed this one. First obozo will get no props on anything from me. He is a community organizer who leads from behind with no spine. I served this country for 5 years. I was a us army paratrooper and was involved in Panama and desert storm. I took a oath to defend this country from both foreign and domestic threats. To defend the constitution. I feel that our rights are being attacked daily. If you support this administration then that is your right. That is a right that you have because of the sacrafices of many people who love this country. Just remember , everytime these type of laws are put on the books , it waters down the amendment. Enough of my rant. I love turkey hunting and love my guns. God bless and hope everyone has a awsome day.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on January 10, 2016, 10:43:48 AM
Don't know how I missed this one. First obozo will get no props on anything from me. He is a community organizer who leads from behind with no spine. I served this country for 5 years. I was a us army paratrooper and was involved in Panama and desert storm. I took a oath to defend this from both foreign and domestic threats. To defend the constitution. I feel that our rights are being attacked daily. If you support this administration then that is your right. That is a right that you have because of the sacrafices of many people who love this . Just remember , everytime these type of laws are put on the books , it waters down the amendment. Enough of my rant. I love turkey hunting and love my guns. God bless and hope everyone has a awsome day.
Thanks for serving brother. 4 pages so far n Bob thought someone would agree w him hmmm, none yet
Quote from: Bowguy on January 10, 2016, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on January 10, 2016, 10:43:48 AM
Don't know how I missed this one. First obozo will get no props on anything from me. He is a community organizer who leads from behind with no spine. I served this country for 5 years. I was a us army paratrooper and was involved in Panama and desert storm. I took a oath to defend this from both foreign and domestic threats. To defend the constitution. I feel that our rights are being attacked daily. If you support this administration then that is your right. That is a right that you have because of the sacrafices of many people who love this . Just remember , everytime these type of laws are put on the books , it waters down the amendment. Enough of my rant. I love turkey hunting and love my guns. God bless and hope everyone has a awsome day.
Thanks for serving brother. 4 pages so far n Bob thought someone would agree w him hmmm, none yet
Thanks. It amazes me that people think that the steady influx of laws toward gun ownership is no big deal. They are baby steps toward the bigger picture of abolishing the second amendment. Liberals would rather blame anything other than a person for wrong doings. The biggest part of why this country is in a downhill spiral is because there isn't any personal responsibility anymore. Take god out of this country and we can never recover. People are quick to sell out their freedom for free stuff from the government or the false security that our government knows what's best and will keep them safe. It is your responsibility to ensure your and your families safty. It is really sad that there are so many sheeple roaming blindly around.