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General Discussion => General Forum => Topic started by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 06:40:52 PM

Poll
Question: Which statement holds truer more often.
Option 1: Patience Kills Turkeys votes: 22
Option 2: Experience Kills Turkeys votes: 37
Option 3: Luck Kills ATurkeys votes: 0
Title: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 06:40:52 PM
I know the answer depends a lot on the hunter.  But I'm talking all the turkeys that are killed in a year.   Out of the three choices what gets them killed more often? 

I've never bought into the statement patience kills turkeys.  I hear it all the time and I see it on forums all the time.  In my opinion patience saves just as many turkeys as it gets killed.  I'm also not a big believer in luck killing them.  I know a lot of them are luck, but I still think the more experience you have the luckier you will be.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: bonemonger on February 13, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
being wood wise, its what make me successful. i figure out where they want to go, then set up in front of them. i would just as soon take a sharp stick in the eye than sit on a field trying to ambush a gobbler.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: vaturkey on February 13, 2012, 06:47:29 PM

 I'm glad that I'm  LUCKY  enough that I have enough  EXPERIENCE  To have  PATIENCE to kill turkeys !   :newmascot:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: jblackburn on February 13, 2012, 06:49:29 PM
I chose patience because I have enough experience to know that woodsmanship is a big part of a successful hunt.  I think patience is a part of woodsmanship.

Although, I have been straight up lucky on a few hunts that probably should have been goose eggs!
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Shotgun on February 13, 2012, 06:51:47 PM
Eperience kills more turkeys hands down year after year.  Typically experienced hunters have better places to hunt or at least know what areas to look for to hunt when in new areas.  Also experience minimizes mistakes and allows for more luck to happen.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: BigHooks on February 13, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
X 2 Thanks Ricky you took the words right out of my mouth..
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
Quote from: vaturkey on February 13, 2012, 06:47:29 PM

 I'm glad that I'm  LUCKY  enough that I have enough  EXPERIENCE  To have  PATIENCE to kill turkeys !   :newmascot:
I think I need to send you some of my med's.  You need to hit me up when your in Barbour County.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: OLE RASPY on February 13, 2012, 06:58:07 PM
none of the above. :wave:





My shotgun does. :P :lol:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: OLE RASPY on February 13, 2012, 06:58:07 PM
none of the above. :wave:





My shotgun does. :P :lol:
You beat them to death with you shotgun?  Or is it the shell that's in your gun, or the shot thats in thats shell?
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: vaturkey on February 13, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
Quote from: vaturkey on February 13, 2012, 06:47:29 PM

 I'm glad that I'm  LUCKY  enough that I have enough  EXPERIENCE  To have  PATIENCE to kill turkeys !   :newmascot:
I think I need to send you some of my med's.  You need to hit me up when your in Barbour County.

Ronnie

I would rather kill some of your GOBBLERS !   :icon_thumright:    :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: OLE RASPY on February 13, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: OLE RASPY on February 13, 2012, 06:58:07 PM
none of the above. :wave:





My shotgun does. :P :lol:
You beat them to death with you shotgun?  Or is it the shell that's in your gun, or the shot thats in thats shell?
I done that before when i was younger but thats a different story.Its the wad in it  :goofball:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: bird on February 13, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
Ronnie you are one bored individual aren't you!
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: vaturkey on February 13, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
Quote from: vaturkey on February 13, 2012, 06:47:29 PM

 I'm glad that I'm  LUCKY  enough that I have enough  EXPERIENCE  To have  PATIENCE to kill turkeys !   :newmascot:
I think I need to send you some of my med's.  You need to hit me up when your in Barbour County.

Ronnie

I would rather kill some of your GOBBLERS !   :icon_thumright:    :OGturkeyhead:
If I had any you could.  But there are, well you know.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: bird on February 13, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
Ronnie you are one bored individual aren't you!
How can you tell? :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: chatterbox on February 13, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: Shotgun on February 13, 2012, 06:51:47 PM
Eperience kills more turkeys hands down year after year.  Typically experienced hunters have better places to hunt or at least know what areas to look for to hunt when in new areas.  Also experience minimizes mistakes and allows for more luck to happen.
Shotgun nailed it right on the head. Hunters often make thier own luck. For the experienced ones, it seems to be good luck more often than not.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Fullfan on February 13, 2012, 07:34:24 PM
Man I have crushed my fair share in 31 years. I would rather be lucky that good any day. And most of the time being in the right spot ( set up) at the right time has hepled.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: paboxcall on February 13, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: chatterbox on February 13, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: Shotgun on February 13, 2012, 06:51:47 PM
Eperience kills more turkeys hands down year after year.  Typically experienced hunters have better places to hunt or at least know what areas to look for to hunt when in new areas.  Also experience minimizes mistakes and allows for more luck to happen.
Shotgun nailed it right on the head. Hunters often make thier own luck. For the experienced ones, it seems to be good luck more often than not.

The old saying, "luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity," fits nicely here in the context of Guesswho's question.

We all get a "gimme" turkey every now and then, but to consistently be in a position to pull the trigger takes repeated successful application of your own experiences.  Jim Spencer wrote once "sit down wrong and you're beat."  Sitting down right can be a function of luck sometimes, but I think its way more often a function of knowing the right set up from a wrong set up.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: mossy835 on February 13, 2012, 07:50:59 PM
Patience first for me then experience gained from experience and one of Ronnie's pink turkey decoys that he threw out!
:TooFunny:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
I thought we were on to something with that pink deke and my tailfan camo face mask.   
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: drenalinld on February 13, 2012, 08:25:38 PM
The arrogant veteran wanna be in me could answer this so eloquently, but I'm trying to tone it down.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: drenalinld on February 13, 2012, 08:25:38 PM
The arrogant veteran wanna be in me could answer this so eloquently, but I'm trying to tone it down.
Don't hold back.  If I don't like what you type I won't read it.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: TRKYHTR on February 13, 2012, 08:39:47 PM
I think those hunters that consistently kill turkeys have enough experience to know when to be patient and when it's time to move.

TRKYHTR
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Flydown on February 13, 2012, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: TRKYHTR on February 13, 2012, 08:39:47 PM
I think those hunters that consistently kill turkeys have enough experience to know when to be patient and when it's time to move.

TRKYHTR

I like this answer!

Sent from my desktop computer using the keyboard.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: anthonyjhallen on February 13, 2012, 08:50:23 PM
You always ask the best questions.

IMO Experience=Confidence=Dead Turkeys
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: drenalinld on February 13, 2012, 08:57:29 PM
Experience means little. It is only useful to those who learn from it and put that knowledge to use. That learning curve is different for each hunter.  It's more about hunter savvy. I know plenty of guys who fill most of their tags for twenty plus years but make the same  mistakes day after day and season after season. By most standards they would be experienced veterans but they do not adapt and learn and react but rather depend on luck and patience. It will lead to kills but I like to take the game to the gobbler.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: drenalinld on February 13, 2012, 08:57:29 PM
Experience means little. It is only useful to those who learn from it and put that knowledge to use.
I agree.  You can be experienced at getting whooped by turkeys year in and year out.  Your still experienced, but it sure as heck ain't going to be the strong part of your game.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
Quote from: anthonyjhallen on February 13, 2012, 08:50:23 PM
You always ask the best questions.

IMO Experience=Confidence=Dead Turkeys
Confidence!  Now were talking. 
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: BOFF on February 13, 2012, 09:23:22 PM
Aughhhh!!!

You and your, "think about it" questions.

Can I change my answer?   :TooFunny:

I lacked patience in thinking about it fully, and shot the answer out to soon.

Guess my luck ran out on me.



God Bless,
David B.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Eric Gregg on February 13, 2012, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
I thought we were on to something with that pink deke and my tailfan camo face mask.   

Stop Ronnie, stop man.... :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Spurcollecta on February 13, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: anthonyjhallen on February 13, 2012, 08:50:23 PM

IMO Experience=Confidence=Dead Turkeys

^^^ Yessir! I would also add persistence into this equation.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: TeocTom on February 13, 2012, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
I thought we were on to something with that pink deke and my tailfan camo face mask.   

Stop Ronnie, stop man.... :TooFunny:
How could this fail?  And throw in a PinkyDink deke, what could possibly go wrong?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/olesixbeards/P3060126.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/olesixbeards/P3060129.jpg)
And while I'm waiting I could sit in one of these.  I figure I could pick this up from the inside and graze right on over and shoot him.  That way I won't even need a fricking call.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429917_3120152450223_1456890354_2905333_1848088655_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Instead of getting me an owl hooter I might get me a cow moo'er.

Dang, now ya'll made me forget what my question was.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Eric Gregg on February 13, 2012, 09:47:53 PM
Ronnie, way, way too much time on your hands :you_rock:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: bgbuck153 on February 13, 2012, 09:54:06 PM
guesswho , That's freaking hilarious !!! :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

I think being persistent/experience kills most of my birds . I run and gun alot looking for my birds and I never give up !
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Shotgun on February 13, 2012, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 13, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Instead of getting me an owl hooter I might get me a cow moo'er.

Dang, now ya'll made me forget what my question was.

Ronnie I bet you wouldn't be the first to try it.  :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Spurcollecta on February 13, 2012, 10:27:50 PM
This thread just went from good to awesome! That's a blind I would definitely hunt out of, lol..
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: gobbler777 on February 13, 2012, 10:32:31 PM
experience...patience kills some ... luck kills even less
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: BOFF on February 13, 2012, 11:13:12 PM
I gotta know more about the blind.

For some reason it just MOOOOOS me.





God Bless,
David B.
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: fitter on February 13, 2012, 11:17:41 PM
i think in all reality it is a mix of all three :turkey2: :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: Longspur321 on February 14, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
Experience...... hands down. You can have all the luck in the world and half the patience, but if you don't know what move to make/not make and when to/when not to make it, you won't be as successful.......I think???
Title: Re: Truer Statement?
Post by: dlquinn on February 14, 2012, 09:23:37 AM
Hoping that patience makes up for my lack of experience this spring  :gobble: