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Title: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 12, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
Whats a good and resonably priced scope.I got a savage .223 axis and it came with a bushnell 3x9x40 sharp shooter but one problem.When i change the magnification from 5 to 9 the bullet impact is off quite a bit is there a scope that yall reccommend that dont do this.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: redarrow on January 12, 2012, 09:51:30 PM
Try sighting in at 10 power then drop to 5 and see what happens.
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Post by: maustypsu on January 12, 2012, 11:10:19 PM
I just got a display model Sightron SII 3-9x40 for $75.  I also bought a Karl Zeiss for $750.  I would recommend both based on what price range you are looking at.  Nikon Monarch series  are good but I would try to compare Sightron side by side with Nikon and see if the Nikon brand is worth the extra money.  If I'm going to spend $300-500 on a scope I would just spring for a Zeiss.
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Post by: redarrow on January 12, 2012, 11:20:27 PM
Dont forget to check out Optics planet.
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Post by: vaturkey on January 12, 2012, 11:38:06 PM
IMO Leupold is the best scope out there. For that .223 I would suggest a  vx2  4x12x40mm. with AO. Adjustable Objective. For long range shootin 300 to 400 yds. I just seen one just like it in  new cond go on e-bay last week for 300.00.  I just like that multa coat lens on the vx2 models. Great for crunch time ( 1st hr of daylight & last hr of daylight )  . I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Good Luck !     Ricky   :newmascot:                     
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Post by: BOFF on January 12, 2012, 11:53:35 PM
I've been very impressed with the Buriis Fullfield IIs. I have an earlier Zeiss Diavari, and in comparing the two side by side at twilight and dark, I can't tell the difference. I have the 50 mm, and 42mm Fullfield IIs. I bought most of the Burris scopes off Ebay.

Just my thoughts.


God Bless,
David B.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Devastator on January 13, 2012, 06:53:01 AM
leupold,end of your troubles.
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Post by: anthonyjhallen on January 13, 2012, 11:02:39 AM
I just put a Leupold VX-R patrol on my AR and so far I like it.  I am going to put it through the ringer this weekend so we will see how it holds up.  My hypothsis from prior experience with Leupold is it should be well worth the money.
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Post by: davisd9 on January 13, 2012, 02:28:48 PM
Redfield Revolution 3-9 X 40 mm.  Scope is worth so much more than they ask for it!
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 13, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: redarrow on January 12, 2012, 09:51:30 PM
Try sighting in at 10 power then drop to 5 and see what happens.
Hey red i tryed that and it still is off.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Holston on January 13, 2012, 08:57:49 PM
Really depends on how much you want to spend.

I'm a Leupold fan, and I've ran their scopes hard.  Their warranty couldn't get any better, so I look at it like I'm buying for a lifetime of use.

I'm a huge fan of their fixed power scopes, specifically the 6X, and used ones can be had on the cheap.  Most people like more magnification, but I've shoot 600 yards pretty regular with only 6 power, so it's more than enough for any hunting I do.

If you're not looking to put that much cash into one, (even though used Leupys are reasonable, esp. the M8s)  I recently put a Redfield on a .17HMR that sees a lot of use, and I can't complain at all for the money I spent on it.

I've also got a couple Weavers(1 V16, 1 K6, 1 K4, and 1 40/44) that have been dependable, fairly clear glass, and track perfectly.
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Post by: sharxfan on January 13, 2012, 09:40:29 PM
+2 for Vortex. Also if your Bushnell came with a warranty I would call them and see what they do about the issue.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 13, 2012, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: sharxfan on January 13, 2012, 09:40:29 PM
+2 for Vortex. Also if your Bushnell came with a warranty I would call them and see what they do about the issue.
just sent bushnell a email bout it.
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Post by: sharxfan on January 13, 2012, 10:38:28 PM
I forgot to add Weaver Nitrex line. they are on clearance at Natchez shooters supply supposedly they have the japanese glass and are excellent for the money.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: customgunsocks on January 14, 2012, 06:54:10 AM
I put a bushnell 6 X 24 mildot on my wifes 22-250, we both love it.Otherwise i would write to the scope manuf or savage, for a 3 x 9 power that shoudlnt be doing that.
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Post by: Woodsman4God on January 14, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
I have a 4x nikon monarch on my 35 remington, was on my 270 and I have had to sight it in twice in 20 years, 1 st time on my 270 and first time on my 35, hasnt moved since. Great clarity too, On my 270 now is a Leupold V x II 3 x 9 x 40 that has the same results sighted once and held since, cant go wrong with either of those for the price
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Post by: Deputy 14 on January 14, 2012, 12:48:49 PM
I shoot nothing but Leupold as a rule of thumb. BUT, check out the Cabelas tactical turret scope that comes with caliber and bullet grain specific turrets. I have one on my .204 and it is right on out to 500 with as simple twist. Plus they are not expensive.  :policeman:
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 14, 2012, 04:21:11 PM
Thanks for the replys guys.

Click on this link and tell me what yall think of this scope.This just one of the few i have been looking at.
Been giving Leupold a hard look.

http://www.sears.com/barska-6-24x40-ir-point-black-riflescope-223-cal/p-SPM5955687501P
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: sharxfan on January 14, 2012, 08:49:30 PM
If it was me I would stay away from Barska.
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Post by: rebelman on January 14, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
Look for a used leupold. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 14, 2012, 10:32:16 PM
Quote from: sharxfan on January 14, 2012, 08:49:30 PM
If it was me I would stay away from Barska.
ok thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 14, 2012, 10:32:52 PM
Any body have any dealings with this kind. price is good.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leupold-M1-Style-6-24x60-Red-Illuminated-Mil-Dot-Side-Wheel-Focus-Rifle-Scope-/220926463311?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33703e4d4f


Says its in hong kong though.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: sharxfan on January 14, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Sorry Raspy but I would stay away. If it is in Hong Kong probably a knock off  not a really Leupold. You would also probably have a hard time finding rings that would allow you to mount a 60mm objective. I checked and a quick run through showed no leupolds with a 60mm objective. I hate to say it but I would stick with the major players. I got a vortex crossfire in 2.5 - 10x50 and the glass is great and the warranty is top notch. Also you can check the SWFA webiste for different scopes. Primary arms also has some good scopes and red dots they are more tactical though than a regular scope.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 14, 2012, 10:59:37 PM
Quote from: sharxfan on January 14, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Sorry Raspy but I would stay away. If it is in Hong Kong probably a knock off  not a really Leupold. You would also probably have a hard time finding rings that would allow you to mount a 60mm objective. I checked and a quick run through showed no leupolds with a 60mm objective. I hate to say it but I would stick with the major players. I got a vortex crossfire in 2.5 - 10x50 and the glass is great and the warranty is top notch. Also you can check the SWFA webiste for different scopes. Primary arms also has some good scopes and red dots they are more tactical though than a regular scope.
alright thanks.kinda what i was thinking but wanted somebody else to tell me.lol.
Im still looking at a bunch always heard leupold is way to go but they are pricey for the higher magnification ones.the 3x9x40 aint bad on there price so i might get that one but was wanting one i can relly zoom in on.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 14, 2012, 11:02:39 PM
Also was looking at a Bushnell New Banner Dusk & Dawn Scope 4-16X40 714164.But dont want to be in the same boat i am in with the bushnell i got.
Just want a scope where bullet impact doesnt change with magnification.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Crutch on January 15, 2012, 12:22:15 AM
Leopoldo, riflemans are cheap enough and hold true. Bass pro or online.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: vaturkey on January 15, 2012, 12:48:27 AM
You got a really good rifle so you should put a really good scope on it. Get you a Leupold VX 2 model with AO ( adjustable Objective ). Ain't nothing but money ! You will never have to buy another scope.
A used Leupold is just as good as a new one. Same lifetime Warranty !  Good Luck ! :icon_thumright:

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Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Holston on January 15, 2012, 06:23:03 AM
Quote from: vaturkey on January 15, 2012, 12:48:27 AM

A used Leupold is just as good as a new one. Same lifetime Warranty ! 

:agreed:
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: goblr77 on January 15, 2012, 07:45:57 AM
A Leupold VXIII or VXII would be my first two choices if money isn't a problem. If I wanted to go a little cheaper a Nikon Buckmaster will do just fine.


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Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: sharxfan on January 15, 2012, 01:11:54 PM
Just remember Raspy that the higher the zoom the more reticle movement there will be if you do not have perfect form. I had a Leapers 6-24 and at 24 I could see every little twitch and shake. It was way to mag for me. Also if you have the possibility of having ashorter range shot then with to much mag you will not be able to see the target clearly. That is why I went lower at 2.5 so that the 30 yd shots are clearer if they come out of the trees that close.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Reloader on January 15, 2012, 10:50:29 PM
Zeiss Conquest is hard to beat for the coin.  I like Leupolds as well, but lean twds the Zeiss more often.

If you are looking for a low priced scope, the Nikon Prostaff is hard to beat for the money.  Midway is running the new model 4-12x40 w/ MD ret for $179 right now.  You'll be hard pressed to beat the prostaff in the sub $200 range.

Good luck.

Reloader
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 15, 2012, 11:03:15 PM
Thanks for the info reloader im gonna check that out.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 15, 2012, 11:05:11 PM
What reticle yall reccomend for yote hunting.I will be making some long shots prolly like 400 yards or better sometimes not much though should i stick with a lower power scope.I was thinking something like 4x12x40 or maybe a 16 powr.
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 15, 2012, 11:12:14 PM
So is the term paralax what im talking bout when i say the bullet changes when i adjust the magnification.Never payed no attention to my other scopes till now when i seen i had a problem with this scope.If so then alot of these scopes yall reccomendeing dont have parlax adjustment
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: drenalinld on January 16, 2012, 12:06:21 AM
No. If bullet impact moves with magnification adjustment, it is a defective or poor quality scope. Parallax means if you move your eye side to side or up and down the crosshairs move on the target. This is cured with an adjustable objective. Most hunting scopes without an adjustable objective are set to be parallax free at 100 yards. This will minimize parallax for most hunting situations with scopes of lower magnification. Longer ranges and higher magnifications magnify parallax which is why most scopes that go to 10X or more have an adjustable objective to eliminate parallax as well as focus on target. The parallax is experienced because the eye is being focused at the incorrect range. I hope this makes sense.
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Post by: MAGGUNS on January 16, 2012, 02:00:52 AM
I would say Leupold, I have tried many many other scopes and just am not satiefied if it is not a Leupold. I have and use others but my main hinting rigs are wearing Leupolds. Did I mention, I am a Leupold fan?    :z-guntootsmiley:
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Post by: anthonyjhallen on January 16, 2012, 08:16:54 AM
Leupold is also providing custom turrets on VX3 and VXR for free.  Just call them and provide the data for the round you are shooting and they will send you the correct dials.

Gotta love free


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Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: OLE RASPY on January 16, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: drenalinld on January 16, 2012, 12:06:21 AM
No. If bullet impact moves with magnification adjustment, it is a defective or poor quality scope. Parallax means if you move your eye side to side or up and down the crosshairs move on the target. This is cured with an adjustable objective. Most hunting scopes without an adjustable objective are set to be parallax free at 100 yards. This will minimize parallax for most hunting situations with scopes of lower magnification. Longer ranges and higher magnifications magnify parallax which is why most scopes that go to 10X or more have an adjustable objective to eliminate parallax as well as focus on target. The parallax is experienced because the eye is being focused at the incorrect range. I hope this makes sense.
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Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: gaswamp on January 16, 2012, 11:37:36 AM
lots of good recommendations....scopes are like most everything else you get what you pay for in quality
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Basser69 on January 16, 2012, 11:38:28 AM
Quote from: Reloader on January 15, 2012, 10:50:29 PM
Zeiss Conquest is hard to beat for the coin.  I like Leupolds as well, but lean twds the Zeiss more often.

If you are looking for a low priced scope, the Nikon Prostaff is hard to beat for the money.  Midway is running the new model 4-12x40 w/ MD ret for $179 right now.  You'll be hard pressed to beat the prostaff in the sub $200 range.

Good luck.

Reloader

Reloader sums this up...I could not have said it better
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: honker22 on January 16, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
Exactly what reloader said.  My first choice is Leupold VX3 4.5-14x50 and they are atop all of my Deer rifles.  I bought a 22-250 for hogs and varmints and went a little cheaper with the VX2 3-9x40.  If you want to go EVEN cheaper, then you need to go with Nikon.  I've shot the Buckmaster and Prostaff and they are all worth the $$$
Title: Re: Scope question.
Post by: Leader on January 17, 2012, 04:18:32 PM
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