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Title: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: CntrlPAlongbeard on February 18, 2022, 10:55:21 PM
I've noticed the same problem now on my last two turkey shotguns where the camo is wearing off after 3-4 years in the high wear areas on the stock and it seems to have a white finish underneath.
Is there anything to do about this to prevent it? Or is there a better option for having them refinished once it gets bad enough?

First one was a Remington 870 now it's a mossberg 930. I wish they could make the primer underneath a dark color instead of white.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Dtrkyman on February 18, 2022, 11:01:53 PM
My Mossberg is showing signs of wear, My Benelli which has seen much more abuse has way less.

Maybe some flat clear coat could stop it?  I may just throw the gun skins I have over mine when it gets bad, my turkey gun has a black receiver and barrel so I bought a kit.

Mossberg seems to be quite bad with their finish, an aftermarket dip is probably more durable.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Paulmyr on February 18, 2022, 11:44:58 PM
Quote from: CntrlPAlongbeard on February 18, 2022, 10:55:21 PM
I've noticed the same problem now on my last two turkey shotguns where the camo is wearing off after 3-4 years in the high wear areas on the stock and it seems to have a white finish underneath.
Is there anything to do about this to prevent it? Or is there a better option for having them refinished once it gets bad enough?

First one was a Remington 870 now it's a mossberg 930. I wish they could make the primer underneath a dark color instead of white.

The white layer underneath is the primer. They use white because it makes the colors stand out better. Then there's a base coat with a camo dip coating over it. It's finalized with matte clear coat. I would think scuffing the the affected area, priming if necessary, and touch up paint with a clear coat finish would be possible. Might be tough to match the original clear coat but that's above my pay grade.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: grayfox on February 19, 2022, 12:17:29 AM
Years ago I had my Beretta 3901 dipped by Bell & Carlson in Mossy Oak Breakup. It started doing the same thing within a couple years. At the time the gun was only used a few times dove hunting. I was very disappointed.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: bigbird on February 19, 2022, 12:40:49 PM
I had my benelli dipped by rob Roberts ten or so years ago and it was showing wear in no time. Like before turkey season was over. I'm going to try ethridge hydrographics out on a different gun and if that doesn't last any longer than the previously mentioned I will rattle can it lol
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Kyle_Ott on February 19, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
Cerakote is a better option than hydrographics if you're worried about wear in high contact areas.

Any gun with hydrographics that is hunted often will inevitably have scuffing in the most frequently handled areas.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Lucky Goose on February 19, 2022, 05:53:09 PM
I'm with you, I wish the primer was dark, but I actually kinda like my worn down remington.  Badge of honor i guess.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: chspke on February 19, 2022, 06:17:23 PM
Cerakote is the way to go.  My buddy and I sent our guns to Koehler Custom Gunworks in west central Kentucky.  Not much more expensive than getting a dip and 100% customizable with greater protection to your gun. 

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Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Paulmyr on February 19, 2022, 06:29:20 PM
@Chspke is there a clear coat protecting the paint on that gun in the pic?
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: chspke on February 19, 2022, 06:33:33 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on February 19, 2022, 06:29:20 PM
@Chspke is there a clear coat protecting the paint on that gun in the pic?
I honestly have no idea.  It looks shiny in the pics there, but it's more of a matte finish. 
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: CntrlPAlongbeard on February 20, 2022, 12:33:10 AM
It looks like there's an option for bottomland cerakote? I didn't know camo cerakote existed.
The pictures on their website are awesome
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: chspke on February 20, 2022, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: CntrlPAlongbeard on February 20, 2022, 12:33:10 AM
It looks like there's an option for bottomland cerakote? I didn't know camo cerakote existed.
The pictures on their website are awesome
I'm fortunate to live a little over an hour's drive from them so my buddy and I drove over and dropped our guns off and got a quick tour of their set up.  It's a multi layered application process with the Camo, so there's a slight texture to the finish.  But why was appealing to us was the fact they could cerakote the stock and forearm.  Most factory guns are cerakoted only on the metal parts. 

All of their patterns are "simulated" so they're not exact.  But they get pretty flipping close. 

My gun above is an adapted "nat gear" pattern but with more green in it. 

They can do just about anything and make your idea come to fruition. 
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: EZ on February 20, 2022, 06:29:10 AM
This is an interesting subject.
My oldest son has an 870 SP in bottomland that is at least 25 years old and shows very little wear.
I just bought a V3 Turkey Pro, used it very little and already the camo is wearing off the sharper points.

Shouldn't these things be getting better and more durable than 25 years ago?
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: the Ward on February 20, 2022, 08:13:45 AM
The only dipped gun i have is my Benelli, and it has held up great over 10 years of steady use. It is lightening up in the grip area a bit now, and has some small nicks here and there, but it still looks almost new. Bug sprays will absolutely eat away at the finish, so avoid getting it on your gun. I accidently got some on the rubber comb on the steady grip stock, and it bubbled and dissolved some of it. Nasty stuff!
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: lacire on February 20, 2022, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: the Ward on February 20, 2022, 08:13:45 AM
The only dipped gun i have is my Benelli, and it has held up great over 10 years of steady use. It is lightening up in the grip area a bit now, and has some small nicks here and there, but it still looks almost new. Bug sprays will absolutely eat away at the finish, so avoid getting it on your gun. I accidently got some on the rubber comb on the steady grip stock, and it bubbled and dissolved some of it. Nasty stuff!

That's a good tip on the bug spray.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Paulmyr on February 20, 2022, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: lacire on February 20, 2022, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: the Ward on February 20, 2022, 08:13:45 AM
The only dipped gun i have is my Benelli, and it has held up great over 10 years of steady use. It is lightening up in the grip area a bit now, and has some small nicks here and there, but it still looks almost new. Bug sprays will absolutely eat away at the finish, so avoid getting it on your gun. I accidently got some on the rubber comb on the steady grip stock, and it bubbled and dissolved some of it. Nasty stuff!

That's a good tip on the bug spray.

Deet is nasty stuff. Had a tube in my pocket while digging seng that I didn't get the cap back on tight enough. The tube leaked. By the time I got back to truck about 4 hrs later, the bug spray started to melt the key fob for my truck.
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: the Ward on February 20, 2022, 10:48:39 AM
Quote from: Paulmyr on February 20, 2022, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: lacire on February 20, 2022, 08:36:19 AM
Quote from: the Ward on February 20, 2022, 08:13:45 AM
The only dipped gun i have is my Benelli, and it has held up great over 10 years of steady use. It is lightening up in the grip area a bit now, and has some small nicks here and there, but it still looks almost new. Bug sprays will absolutely eat away at the finish, so avoid getting it on your gun. I accidently got some on the rubber comb on the steady grip stock, and it bubbled and dissolved some of it. Nasty stuff!

That's a good tip on the bug spray.

Deet is nasty stuff. Had a tube in my pocket while digging seng that I didn't get the cap back on tight enough. The tube leaked. By the time I got back to truck about 4 hrs later, the bug spray started to melt the key fob for my truck.
Ugh! Those new key fobs are not cheap!
Title: Re: Camo dip wearing off
Post by: Which Gun on February 20, 2022, 02:23:36 PM
Handle a gun same spot over and over will even take the blueing off. Hands are dirty with sweat get dirt on them it's like sandpaper.