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Can I shoot TSS through a Remington choke that say's Lead Shot Only.

I have and it shot very good.

Idk is your TSS lead? Pretty obvious answer no? Chokes labeled lead only are to be shot w lead per the manufacturer.  You could always ask Remington though. I'd be interested in hearing what they say.

Could swell the choke and possibly damage the barrel. Don't ask me how I know.

These discussions came up big time when HEVI 13 hit the market.  Pretty much came down to nobody would commit for fear of a law suit.  Times don't change in a litigious society.  You're on your own.  Good luck. :turkey2:

Quote from: THattaway on March 18, 2021, 06:30:26 AM
Could swell the choke and possibly damage the barrel. Don't ask me how I know.

If I'm remembering post from year's past the lead only chokes could be making a one way trip.  They would screw in as usual but after a few shots with not recommended loads not screw out again. 

Pretty simple really. Follow the manufacture directions or damage could occur.

I wouldn't try it. I saw what happened to my friend's IC choke with the old flight control wads, nasty! Modern choke is cheaper than a  new gun ... or an eye.

Quote from: Bowguy on March 18, 2021, 05:26:22 AM
Idk is your TSS lead? Pretty obvious answer no? Chokes labeled lead only are to be shot w lead per the manufacturer.  You could always ask Remington though. I'd be interested in hearing what they say.

They'll probably say nothing since they're out of business.

Over the years...I've seen quite a good number of destroyed choke tubes posted right here on this site , thats just the ones I've SEEN ... it is very reasonable to assume there is quite a bit more nobody even knows about

Some of the chokes were catastrophic failures where they peeled right open and destroying the barrel in the process

Various types of shells were used ...you got to be careful these days

Yes ...as previously mentioned,  there is lawyers hiding behind every stop sign and tree in this country ...we know  a man lost his home for allowing someone to fall out of his treestand....true story ...lawyers

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Quote from: Bowguy on March 18, 2021, 05:26:22 AM
Idk is your TSS lead? Pretty obvious answer no? Chokes labeled lead only are to be shot w lead per the manufacturer.  You could always ask Remington though. I'd be interested in hearing what they say.

They'll probably say nothing since they're out of business.

Remington isn't out of business. They just have new owners.

I just looked at my Remington Super Full choke and it says lead only.  I've shot HW 7's and TSS for years through it and not had any problems.  I didn't realize people had issues.  I have that same choke in 2 guns that get hunted daily in the spring.   Probably been over a hundred HW 7's or TSS 9's shot through them.

Has anyone specifically had an issue with the Remington factory super full choke ?

I was thinking that Remington did't want steel shot fired through those chokes.

Ive been shooting tss through my star bright choke. So far so good. I guess I need to search for another choke tube.

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I believe in what it says, not somebody else's opinion. Safety precautions are there for a reason, you know, like don't look down the barrel of a loaded gun.

It has been my impression that the "lead only" chokes are far safer to use with smaller shot sizes...

There is a considerable difference between the force put on the barrel between shooting BB steel shot, and #6 Hevi-shot...

One of the differences is, that lead "gives," and a lot of the non-toxic is far harder and does not give.  Forcing larger pellets at high speeds that do not give, is a bit different than pushing smaller shot sizes.

I have heard of and seen barrels destroyed by shooting steel through tight chokes, but have yet to hear of or see a barrel destroyed by smaller shot sizes...  This thread is the first I have heard of such happening?

I would be curious as to the wads and shot sizes of those on these forums that have destroyed barrels and chokes?  Has anyone actually had choke/barrel damage done with any shot sizes smaller than #4's?????

One exception is an old Model 37 I have in which the barrel was threaded for very thin chokes.  Apparently the material in in the chokes, combined with with how thin the chokes are, could be damaged by using steel...  I honestly doubt it, but have not had the courage to experiment (as the chokes are paper-thin).

 :morning:
I bought a used tube off of a member here that was swelled and after checking with a few tube makers they all said it's a lead only tube and the only way that it would swell was that it been used for non lead loads...so I was left with nothing.  :camohat:

Quote from: Vintage on March 19, 2021, 09:26:38 PM
I was thinking that Remington did't want steel shot fired through those chokes.

That is kinda what I was thinking as well.  I've never heard of one getting torn up from HW 7 or TSS.

My impression was the restriction was due to steel's higher hardness and velocity, while usually being several shot sizes larger than lead. Whenever I've patterned steel shot and steel/tungsten blended shot I always got what would be a full pattern with lead shot using a modified choke because it patterns tighter than lead. If heard several stories of blown out or seized on chokes using too tight a constriction with steel.

TSS is several times harder than lead shot and steel for that matter so I could see issue shooting it through weaker steel alloy or thin walled chokes. No matter the the size of TSS, it was my understanding that it was unsafe to use any in older shotguns for that reason. That's why I use bismuth to waterfowl hunt with my older shotgun.

That being said the manufacturer knows the capability of their product and it's foolish not follow their instructions.



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Sure, what's the worst that can happen? Blow your barrel to pieces or cause a bulge?

Well here's a question. I have a Primos Jelly Head that says "not to be used with steel shot" would it be OK to shoot TSS or Hevi-shot through it?

Mike

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Quote from: lowoctane on March 20, 2021, 06:28:30 AM
:morning:
I bought a used tube off of a member here that was swelled and after checking with a few tube makers they all said it's a lead only tube and the only way that it would swell was that it been used for non lead loads...so I was left with nothing.  :camohat:

Was the member in good standing with the rules for selling? Did you contact him after the issue and if so how did he reply? How did you pay? If Paypal you could have gotten your money back. I hope you reported the member to Shannon?

Quote from: mountaineer long beard on March 20, 2021, 06:44:25 PM
Well here's a question. I have a Primos Jelly Head that says "not to be used with steel shot" would it be OK to shoot TSS or Hevi-shot through it?

Mike

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  to be sure , wouldn't it be better to call Primos on your SM-G970U..???

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Quote from: mountaineer long beard on March 20, 2021, 06:44:25 PM
Well here's a question. I have a Primos Jelly Head that says "not to be used with steel shot" would it be OK to shoot TSS or Hevi-shot through it?

Mike

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  to be sure , wouldn't it be better to call Primos on your SM-G970U..???

Yes it would. Thank you.

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Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on March 20, 2021, 06:21:31 PM
Sure, what's the worst that can happen? Blow your barrel to pieces or cause a bulge?

Have you or anyone you know had a barrel blow to pieces or a bulged barrel as a result of shooting TSS through a Remington super full choke ?  That is the question I was asking specifically.

I've just never heard of it.

Not recommending anyone shoot non approved chokes with anything other than suggested, I do however have an old jelly head that has dozens of rounds of hevi shot through it and it is good as new.  Even shot some Hevi coyote b and T shot in it.

The lead only chokes many were made before hevi shot and all the others so they were referring to large steel most likely.

With all the quality chokes available today I would just buy one that is made for it.

I have never seen any choke blown up or even swelled and I worked a gun shop for years and saw all kind of stupid stuff!

Have you or anyone you know had a barrel blow to pieces or a bulged barrel as a result of shooting TSS through a Remington super full choke ?  That is the question I was asking specifically.

Me personally? Of course not, I wouldn't shoot the stuff through any barrel/choke. 
There have been plenty of choke tubes destroyed with softer/less dense shot than TSS.  It's obviously a calculated risk you take when you shoot shot that hard. 
As the constriction amount increases so does said risk. The same thing can be said the more shots you fire.  It's rarely one shot that causes problems, it's a cumulative effect.
Do I think the Remington tube is any weaker than other similar superfull tubes? No of course not, most all are made with the same strength stainless steel.
That's why I said worst case scenario...   Not MOST likely scenario.