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Box Call Chalk

Started by Spyderman, April 16, 2020, 11:04:00 AM

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Sir-diealot

Quote from: longbeards on April 17, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!
No to this, it has wax or oils in it and can destroy a call. One of the very first things I learned when I started turkey hunting was to never use chalk board chalk. You see everyone tell you to avoid it in books on calls. That and sidewalk chalk.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

Greg Massey

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:28:34 AM
Quote from: longbeards on April 17, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!
No to this, it has wax or oils in it and can destroy a call. One of the very first things I learned when I started turkey hunting was to never use chalk board chalk. You see everyone tell you to avoid it in books on calls. That and sidewalk chalk.
Agree , why in the world would you take 100 - 250 dollar box call and use chalk board chalk from Walmart or side walk chalk .. to me that's insane in my opinion ..

Click

Whats the best way to clean a box call that has sidewalk chalk on it?

Greg Massey

#18
Quote from: Click on April 17, 2020, 10:28:42 AM
Whats the best way to clean a box call that has sidewalk chalk on it?
Go to the Turkey call forum and it will tell you how to clean your box ...

falltoms

If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk

Gooserbat

Quote from: longbeards on April 17, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!

Yeah works great if you want to ruin a call.

Get some of the half moon cake chalk from a call maker and use nothing else.
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Sir-diealot

Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

falltoms

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use.  The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning.  I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does,  if you have the right type of wood,  and pay attention to the grain orientation,  you Do Not need chalk.  That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.

Greg Massey

Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I disagree that you don't need chalk , sure a good box should play with little to no chalk. But in changing the grip of the paddle on the rails with the chalk you can achieve different tones and sounds of your boxes . With chalk you get the full potential of your call.. that's my opinion .

Greg Massey

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..

Dtrkyman

Rain chalk works well!

Sir-diealot

Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk

I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use.  The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning.  I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does,  if you have the right type of wood,  and pay attention to the grain orientation,  you Do Not need chalk.  That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.

The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.

Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

falltoms

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk

I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use.  The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning.  I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does,  if you have the right type of wood,  and pay attention to the grain orientation,  you Do Not need chalk.  That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.

The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.

Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood,  chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them

Sir-diealot

Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk

I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use.  The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning.  I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does,  if you have the right type of wood,  and pay attention to the grain orientation,  you Do Not need chalk.  That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.

The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.

Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood,  chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
I never said you were, you need to reread what I typed.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

Greg Massey

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk

I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use.  The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning.  I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does,  if you have the right type of wood,  and pay attention to the grain orientation,  you Do Not need chalk.  That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.

The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.

Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need  chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood,  chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
I never said you were, you need to reread what I typed.
I guess that's why he makes his own and doesn't sell them  .. LOL..