well after takeing a shot at 2 spooked longbeards and not hitting one yesterday i went back in after roosting them last night and 1 came in strutting to it's death song from my hooks devastator this morning.still have not had the time to shoot the fed hv 7's yet so i was useing the copper plated 6's fed hv.i saw the topic in the general discussion section on floppage and this one never moved after getting plowed at 30 yards.