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Started by kelley91, February 06, 2020, 10:30:08 AM

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kelley91

Have the quota hunts been cancelled this year? In years past you could apply during February but so far nothing come up.

fallhnt

Yes

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h2obil

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LBL Has cancelled the  Youth Hunt ( 2 Days ) as well as the  traditional 4 day quota draw Hunts. ---Tue/wed--Sat/Sun.  These bonus days were usually before the Kentucky's Turkey  season opener.     
Their reasoning  to take away the youth and quota hunts " You turkey hunters wanted it this way !"   ?????
This leaves LBL Turkey  hunters with a 14 day season--youth and adults free for all--
but when LBL  posted their  dates they put up the wrong hunt dates??
They put Friday the 17th as their  opener??  Lots of confusion in the comments -"A day before Ky.'s state opener???"--so when they caught their error LBL  made the date correction---but  with their correction LBL  took 1 of our remaining 14 hunting  days away  --so instead of the  20 days potentially for  LBL Turkey hunters we  have been reduced to a total of 13 hunting days. --Youth and adult................PPL not Happy....
Please Call   John Wesbrook  with questions and comments-- 270-924-2204 --       Thank you.... :TrainWreck1:

joey46

Being discussed in depth on some other forums.  Blame was given to "whiners" who supposedly didn't like the quota hunters getting the jump on them.  More likely a combination of this and opinions that the early opening dates of the quota hunts were biologically flawed.  A real cluster (you know what).  Need honest explanations not this bs.  The LBL quota hunts are preference point controlled so the "whiners" would have received a permit about every other year.  That's better than 99% of most quota hunts throughout the country.  Down here in FL a good WMA quota hunt takes about 5+ points. 
BTW - any going to the Nashville convention the south entrance to LBL is only about 90 minutes north.  Be a nice drive up The Trace (route 453) to see the area.  Take it the 40 miles to Grand Rivers KY.  Make a day of it.  Grand Rivers has some great restaurants. 

rakkin6

It is being discussed in depth on the TNDEER.com website if you want to check it out.
DE OPPRESSO LIBER

LaLongbeard

A lot of fuss over two 2 day lotteries. Depending on the spring the weather can be really cold, rainy etc. on the early 2days. The same can be said for the second. I don't think  the kill numbers were all that much higher lottery vs general season percentage wise. A lot of people would only hunt the lottery days so doing away with it shouldn't add much to the numbers.
    A lot of the people crying on the forums don't even hunt LBL or if they do it's one or two days a season. The people that regularly hunt there will still kill their  one  Gobbler in Ky and move on to Tenn or elsewhere. The wannabes will still kill nothing but will have a built in excuse this season for why.
If you can't kill one during the regular season a two day lottery isn't going to make that much difference.
    Some have complained for years about the cost of the lottery, if you can't scrounge up $5 you probably need to stay home. As for the youth season same deal if a kid wants to hunt this shouldn't stop them. And if their only chance to kill a turkey is the youth season they may want to find another "mentor" to take them hunting.
If you make everything easy how do you know when your good at anything?

joey46

The "fuss" isn't as much about the two day lotteries as the way it is/was handled.  Doing this without any public input on a take it or leave it basis is arrogant at best.  The more you hear and read the more it sounds like this was a way to eliminate hunting early in the breeding period.  Probably a good thing since the population was trending down.  Claiming to be caving into whiners just seems an easy way out.  Will never believe F&W in both KY and TN were totally blindsided by this.  If so it makes this foolishness even worse.
As I like to relate I lived in Marshall County KY for nine years, hunted LBL most every weekday of the regular turkey season, and enjoyed the last week more than the first.  The birds were still active and the pressure was off.  When I lived there I don't think I ever put in for a quota turkey permit.  Few locals did unless they had out of town friends coming down they needed to "guide".  Wasn't worth the aggravation of racing for a favorite ridge in the dark only to find it was three other guys favorite ridge also. LOL.
Just because I can I'll add a few pictures.  Oldest one will be my first KY/LBL bird that was taken on a quota hunt.  Other pic may be the last bird taken in LBL before we moved.  Haven't been back since but hope to at some point.  I have an old GPS that still has about 20 LBL waypoints that have good memories.

Dtrkyman

Always wanted to hunt that from the bass boat, some pretty terrain in there!


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LaLongbeard

Quote from: joey46 on February 13, 2020, 08:18:36 AM
The "fuss" isn't as much about the two day lotteries as the way it is/was handled.  Doing this without any public input on a take it or leave it basis is arrogant at best.  The more you hear and read the more it sounds like this was a way to eliminate hunting early in the breeding period.  Probably a good thing since the population was trending down.  Claiming to be caving into whiners just seems an easy way out.  Will never believe F&W in both KY and TN were totally blindsided by this.  If so it makes this foolishness even worse.
As I like to relate I lived in Marshall County KY for nine years, hunted LBL most every weekday of the regular turkey season, and enjoyed the last week more than the first.  The birds were still active and the pressure was off.  When I lived there I don't think I ever put in for a quota turkey permit.  Few locals did unless they had out of town friends coming down they needed to "guide".  Wasn't worth the aggravation of racing for a favorite ridge in the dark only to find it was three other guys favorite ridge also. LOL.
Just because I can I'll add a few pictures.  Oldest one will be my first KY/LBL bird that was taken on a quota hunt.  Other pic may be the last bird taken in LBL before we moved.  Haven't been back since but hope to at some point.  I have an old GPS that still has about 20 LBL waypoints that have good memories.

LBL is federally managed. With everything the government does WITHOUT asking, I think the quota cancellation is the least of our worries. I wouldn't get so worked up about a place you haven't been to in a decade lol.
If you make everything easy how do you know when your good at anything?

Greg Massey

Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 12, 2020, 01:48:43 PM
A lot of fuss over two 2 day lotteries. Depending on the spring the weather can be really cold, rainy etc. on the early 2days. The same can be said for the second. I don't think  the kill numbers were all that much higher lottery vs general season percentage wise. A lot of people would only hunt the lottery days so doing away with it shouldn't add much to the numbers.
    A lot of the people crying on the forums don't even hunt LBL or if they do it's one or two days a season. The people that regularly hunt there will still kill their  one  Gobbler in Ky and move on to Tenn or elsewhere. The wannabes will still kill nothing but will have a built in excuse this season for why.
If you can't kill one during the regular season a two day lottery isn't going to make that much difference.
    Some have complained for years about the cost of the lottery, if you can't scrounge up $5 you probably need to stay home. As for the youth season same deal if a kid wants to hunt this shouldn't stop them. And if their only chance to kill a turkey is the youth season they may want to find another "mentor" to take them hunting.
X2 .. good post ...