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Quote from: HookedonHooks on September 23, 2018, 12:15:55 AMTrapping once you get into it is crazy fun, and if you're doing it in interest of your turkey hunting, you'll be totally hooked once it pays off in both fur and more gobblers to kill. I will recommend you start with two particular trapping methods and research around them to hasten your skills with these particular traps, and where/how to set them, and various methods and baits used for these traps and all the tools and other things required outside of just the trap itself. The first is for raccoons (occasional opposums, and the rare skunk is caught as well). This is critical for mainting how many nest bandits you have running around, as raccoons kill far more turkeys from eating eggs every year than coyotes can run down live birds. I would STRONGLY recommend using Duke DP (Dogproof) traps for your coon sets as they are very easy to set and are the most effective of any coon trap we've used. They are definitely a little pricier than common foothold traps, but the design in my opinion is what catches more coons, and you won't catch stray dogs or cats that are curiously checking out your sets. Minimal research on these style traps should also show why these traps are definitely the most effective for raccoons and if you can only start with one thing it should definitely be with these. The next method will be a "catch all" as far as the way you make the set will determine your targeted species, but it is using 2x20 conibear and a bucket. This will primarily be for coyote, bobcat, and fox, but raccoons are caught this way as well. You will want to research cubby style sets using conibears for getting after the yotes, bobcats, and fox. The learning curve on this is huge, and starting out don't get discouraged with little success as it is not easy trapping those particular species, opposed to the coon and DP traps you'll figure out and should have success very quickly.A third suggestion to increase the likelihood of getting rid of more yotes is to also hunt them on the side. While out checking traps, if you have access to a caller or purchase one, make a couple 25-30 minute sits in a couple locations to see if you can't call one up and shoot it. I definitely don't know everything there is to know about trapping, but I've grown up around it and tagged along with my father who works nuisance damage control for the Missouri Conservation Dept. since I was a young boy. Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have some questions as you go and I'll be more than happy to help or try to steer you in the right direction. Trapping is an incredibly rewarding hobby, and definitely isn't necessarily a cheap thing to startup either, but once you start getting fur on the ground you can make some pretty decent money if the market is good, and if it ain't well you can attempt to atleast make your money back to buy more traps.
Quote from: Bowguy on September 23, 2018, 05:01:23 AMTrapping is great fun. Some animals are easier it seems than others. Canines take some learning/patience for most guys. I don't know if they're adamant about fur handling in your state classes but research how to put up hides before you need to so you're prepared with what you need
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on September 23, 2018, 02:56:04 PMGood for you!! I watch some trapping on shows like Mountain Men, Last Alaskans, etc. Looks like a pretty cool thing to do. Maybe one day I'll learn how to do it.
Quote from: jryser on September 23, 2018, 03:12:46 PMHere's a video I edited several years back for my pals at Hoosier Trapper Supply who taught me. You might recognize Greg and Aaron from The Hunting Public! I'm no expert which is why I made the video / lots of folks think you have to have years of experience. You don't. Just some woodsman skills and a good mentor!!https://youtu.be/GrXXHSmxalI Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Sir-diealot on September 23, 2018, 09:17:10 PMQuote from: HookedonHooks on September 23, 2018, 12:15:55 AMTrapping once you get into it is crazy fun, and if you're doing it in interest of your turkey hunting, you'll be totally hooked once it pays off in both fur and more gobblers to kill. I will recommend you start with two particular trapping methods and research around them to hasten your skills with these particular traps, and where/how to set them, and various methods and baits used for these traps and all the tools and other things required outside of just the trap itself. The first is for raccoons (occasional opposums, and the rare skunk is caught as well). This is critical for mainting how many nest bandits you have running around, as raccoons kill far more turkeys from eating eggs every year than coyotes can run down live birds. I would STRONGLY recommend using Duke DP (Dogproof) traps for your coon sets as they are very easy to set and are the most effective of any coon trap we've used. They are definitely a little pricier than common foothold traps, but the design in my opinion is what catches more coons, and you won't catch stray dogs or cats that are curiously checking out your sets. Minimal research on these style traps should also show why these traps are definitely the most effective for raccoons and if you can only start with one thing it should definitely be with these. The next method will be a "catch all" as far as the way you make the set will determine your targeted species, but it is using 2x20 conibear and a bucket. This will primarily be for coyote, bobcat, and fox, but raccoons are caught this way as well. You will want to research cubby style sets using conibears for getting after the yotes, bobcats, and fox. The learning curve on this is huge, and starting out don't get discouraged with little success as it is not easy trapping those particular species, opposed to the coon and DP traps you'll figure out and should have success very quickly.A third suggestion to increase the likelihood of getting rid of more yotes is to also hunt them on the side. While out checking traps, if you have access to a caller or purchase one, make a couple 25-30 minute sits in a couple locations to see if you can't call one up and shoot it. I definitely don't know everything there is to know about trapping, but I've grown up around it and tagged along with my father who works nuisance damage control for the Missouri Conservation Dept. since I was a young boy. Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have some questions as you go and I'll be more than happy to help or try to steer you in the right direction. Trapping is an incredibly rewarding hobby, and definitely isn't necessarily a cheap thing to startup either, but once you start getting fur on the ground you can make some pretty decent money if the market is good, and if it ain't well you can attempt to atleast make your money back to buy more traps.Sorry for the delay in replying, I have been bopping all day. Yes the Duke DP (Dogproof) traps or encapsulating traps as they also call them here are going to be a big thing as dogs and cats are in the area as will be sweet smelling baits as cats and dogs are not as attracted to them (Or so they tell me anyway) They one type of trap I do not intend to use are body gripping traps, not good for the areas I will be trapping or the species I am after as well.Yes learning to do sets will be a big challenge for me, I have been driving a Mennonite around for years on his trapping line and that is how I got interested and he is going to be teaching me a lot as we go out on sets together. He is normally very successful every year.We do hunt them both by calling and with dogs, both ways are a lot of fun. (Hunt coon and Coyote with dogs)For me my biggest worries are making the set, because of my past car accidents kneeling is very painful for me and I can't squat for long, I am going to have to figure out some kind of scent free padded kneeling mat that can be easily transported.
Quote from: Chris O on September 23, 2018, 06:27:15 PMCongrats and nice video. I wish everyone would support a trapping organization. Trappers have fought many anti battles over the years and preserved the rights to trap. They are always on the front line protecting it. If you think that I don't care about trapping because I only hunt or fish. You are mistaken because once the antis get rid of one thing they are on to the next thing they don't want you to hunt or fish either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: jryser on September 23, 2018, 09:42:18 PMQuote from: Sir-diealot on September 23, 2018, 09:17:10 PMQuote from: HookedonHooks on September 23, 2018, 12:15:55 AMTrapping once you get into it is crazy fun, and if you're doing it in interest of your turkey hunting, you'll be totally hooked once it pays off in both fur and more gobblers to kill. I will recommend you start with two particular trapping methods and research around them to hasten your skills with these particular traps, and where/how to set them, and various methods and baits used for these traps and all the tools and other things required outside of just the trap itself. The first is for raccoons (occasional opposums, and the rare skunk is caught as well). This is critical for mainting how many nest bandits you have running around, as raccoons kill far more turkeys from eating eggs every year than coyotes can run down live birds. I would STRONGLY recommend using Duke DP (Dogproof) traps for your coon sets as they are very easy to set and are the most effective of any coon trap we've used. They are definitely a little pricier than common foothold traps, but the design in my opinion is what catches more coons, and you won't catch stray dogs or cats that are curiously checking out your sets. Minimal research on these style traps should also show why these traps are definitely the most effective for raccoons and if you can only start with one thing it should definitely be with these. The next method will be a "catch all" as far as the way you make the set will determine your targeted species, but it is using 2x20 conibear and a bucket. This will primarily be for coyote, bobcat, and fox, but raccoons are caught this way as well. You will want to research cubby style sets using conibears for getting after the yotes, bobcats, and fox. The learning curve on this is huge, and starting out don't get discouraged with little success as it is not easy trapping those particular species, opposed to the coon and DP traps you'll figure out and should have success very quickly.A third suggestion to increase the likelihood of getting rid of more yotes is to also hunt them on the side. While out checking traps, if you have access to a caller or purchase one, make a couple 25-30 minute sits in a couple locations to see if you can't call one up and shoot it. I definitely don't know everything there is to know about trapping, but I've grown up around it and tagged along with my father who works nuisance damage control for the Missouri Conservation Dept. since I was a young boy. Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have some questions as you go and I'll be more than happy to help or try to steer you in the right direction. Trapping is an incredibly rewarding hobby, and definitely isn't necessarily a cheap thing to startup either, but once you start getting fur on the ground you can make some pretty decent money if the market is good, and if it ain't well you can attempt to atleast make your money back to buy more traps.Sorry for the delay in replying, I have been bopping all day. Yes the Duke DP (Dogproof) traps or encapsulating traps as they also call them here are going to be a big thing as dogs and cats are in the area as will be sweet smelling baits as cats and dogs are not as attracted to them (Or so they tell me anyway) They one type of trap I do not intend to use are body gripping traps, not good for the areas I will be trapping or the species I am after as well.Yes learning to do sets will be a big challenge for me, I have been driving a Mennonite around for years on his trapping line and that is how I got interested and he is going to be teaching me a lot as we go out on sets together. He is normally very successful every year.We do hunt them both by calling and with dogs, both ways are a lot of fun. (Hunt coon and Coyote with dogs)For me my biggest worries are making the set, because of my past car accidents kneeling is very painful for me and I can't squat for long, I am going to have to figure out some kind of scent free padded kneeling mat that can be easily transported.I might suggest some coveralls that you only wear on the trapline. Save you the extra weight of something to kneel on and you can pad em or wear knee pads underneath. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Sir-diealot on September 23, 2018, 09:47:05 PMAbout the one and only thing I have ever seen in person that I have been against is snag fishing, I see no sport to it whatsoever. But if it is legal then it is your right to do it.