Get one or the other! I carried around a 28" Remington V3. It`s a great gun, but I`m a convert to a shorter barrel, for turkey, even if the gun that has it weighs more. For this last season, I bought a pre-owned, 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole 12 Ga with a red dot. It`s `05-`07 vintage, so it`s an earlier model of the guns at which you`re looking. The thing is rock solid, tight as can be, kicks like a mule ( enter a slip on Limbsaver, problem solved for the most part). Has the 23" barrel and a sling. Weighs 8 lbs, but those kinds of guns are the way to go for turkey, IMHO. Walking through the woods hands free...yep. Love mine.