I'll add to my post, its all ive worn shirtwise for the last 6-7 years. I cut about 1/4 of the back pad out so it didn't push up in the back of my neck when i was in the truck or leaning back against a tree. I found that if i took it completely out the seat magnets on the back of the shirt snap together, and be careful around trucks, i've had my magnets pop on to the bed of the truck a time or two. And, for some people the wrists can be a little tight.
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