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Started by turkaholic, March 24, 2018, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: Phillipshunt on March 24, 2018, 02:05:35 PM These things aren't happening on public land in the southeast period.
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 24, 2018, 02:47:08 PMQuote from: Phillipshunt on March 24, 2018, 02:05:35 PM These things aren't happening on public land in the southeast period. OHFIRCRYINOUTLOUD!I have used my locator tactics on public land Eastern turkeys in Oklahoma, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, and Mississipi. They have worked in every one of those states. Granted, I have not hunted Louisiana, so I can't summarily declare that they will work there. Someone summarily declaring that they will not work,...and especially someone that by his own admission does not use locators,...is not going to convince me,...specially based on my own experiences in all the rest of that region. ...But if you want to keep trying, knock yourself out...For the more reasonable among us that are willing to listen to suggestions on tactics that will most likely help you find gobblers to hunt, I would recommend being a little more open-minded....
Quote from: Phillipshunt on March 24, 2018, 02:05:35 PMAs anyone can see the experiences are many and varied. Depending on what subspecies your dealing with and how much pressure they have been exposed to. I was on a Navaho reservation a few years ago and the local Indians had box calls rigged up on the outside of there trucks that were operated by pulling on a string. They would stop at a high spot and squawk until one answered or came in. I could not believe such a thing would ever work they assured me it did and after hunting Merriams later I would not be surprised what they would do. They answered calls from crazy distances and crossed 1/4 mile of open land to come get shot , on public land. The only time I've ever agreed with someone saying a turkey is dumb it was almost like hunting a tame bird. Rios are a little better but not by much anything that continues to roost in the same trees every night of there life ain't hard to find or kill. I watched two guys drive up to a roost site and unfold a pop up blind under a roost tree in Texas. They killed a gobbler at daylight. These things aren't happening on public land in the southeast period. And so it goes with locators and everything else you have to adjust your tactics for the quarry or you'll be a one trick pony that not only is stuck in 1980-1990 but stuck on a single tactic that only works on dim witted birds.
Quote from: Phillipshunt on March 24, 2018, 03:21:03 PMQuote from: Phillipshunt on March 24, 2018, 02:05:35 PMAs anyone can see the experiences are many and varied. Depending on what subspecies your dealing with and how much pressure they have been exposed to. I was on a Navaho reservation a few years ago and the local Indians had box calls rigged up on the outside of there trucks that were operated by pulling on a string. They would stop at a high spot and squawk until one answered or came in. I could not believe such a thing would ever work they assured me it did and after hunting Merriams later I would not be surprised what they would do. They answered calls from crazy distances and crossed 1/4 mile of open land to come get shot , on public land. The only time I've ever agreed with someone saying a turkey is dumb it was almost like hunting a tame bird. Rios are a little better but not by much anything that continues to roost in the same trees every night of there life ain't hard to find or kill. I watched two guys drive up to a roost site and unfold a pop up blind under a roost tree in Texas. They killed a gobbler at daylight. These things aren't happening on public land in the southeast period. And so it goes with locators and everything else you have to adjust your tactics for the quarry or you'll be a one trick pony that not only is stuck in 1980-1990 but stuck on a single tactic that only works on dim witted birds.Stop crying and read the post I said the boxcall mounted on the truck and the pop up blind being put up under a roosted bird ain't gonna work in the southeast. You get all bunched up ever time someone says anything negative about a locator call do you sell them or something ?lol. I get that you hunt tame turkeys with Red Clouds offspring but I don't lol.
Quote from: marshboy on March 24, 2018, 08:17:11 PMI don't care what side of the epic locator debate you're on, the comment about Red Cloud's offspring is damn funny! Jim I never knew
Quote from: marshboy on March 24, 2018, 08:18:22 PMGuesswho must be busy hunting or he would chime in on that one!
Quote from: Happy on March 24, 2018, 08:37:11 AMThis poor fellow went walking by and I had to resist the urge to reach out and grab his arm. Pretty sure there would have been instant bowel evacuation if had.
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 24, 2018, 09:38:53 AMI have said this many times before,...the proper use of locator calls for locating gobblers on the roost is an art in itself, not unlike learning the proper use of turkey calls.Should someone use a locator call in all situations? Absolutely not. If you hunt somewhere that you are going to reliably hear turkeys gobble on the roost, then there is no reason to use a locator. On the other hand, there are places around the country where (properly) using a locator call can mean the difference between having a great turkey hunt and finding birds to hunt or having your hunt turn into a dismal failure. It's all about knowing the "art" and learning what locator tactics will make an otherwise silent gobbler tell you he is out there versus hunting a silent woods not having a clue as to whether there is a gobbler within five miles. Again, my perspective is based on hunting public land areas that are tens of thousands of acres (or larger), many of which have widely scattered turkey flocks where it is pretty much absolutely necessary to find a gobbling turkey before you start hunting. If you are hunting under those conditions, and not finding birds to hunt, learn the "art" of proper locator call use. Personally, I have yet to hunt anywhere that the proper locator used at the right time has failed to find a gobbler to hunt. What is "proper" locator call use? Perhaps we can delve into that at another time (again),...but I can tell you what it is not,...and that is wandering around the woods blowing a crow or owl call every thirty seconds trying to sound like every other crow or owl that is out there doing the same thing. Simply and perhaps "harshly" put, that is in most instances a total waste of time.
