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Started by BottomLand54, March 07, 2018, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 08, 2018, 09:26:26 AMQuote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:21:28 AMQuote from: Happy on March 08, 2018, 09:08:32 AMSomething to consider is that federal probably did not anticipate this shell taking off like it has. I didn't think it would. Especially in the 12 guage offerings. The price point doesn't justify the end in my opinion. I can see it in the 20 guage and smaller loads but it seems extreme to me in a 12 guage unless I was trying to snipe one. In wv a rifle is legal so I would just go that route. It's cheaper.Happy i agree with you, after trying some of this Tss shot last week, i decided it's a fine shell for people with really bad eye sight or people who can't shoot very well and have very little calling ability. It's a high dollar shell pack with a huge amount of shot and at 20 yards will blow a hole like a rifle, i just decided after messing with it last week, i will work more on calling the turkeys as i have done in the pass years and just be patient and kill my with cheaper shells ....Dude are you serious. Did you really just say that?? I was a sniper in the Army 5 years and I shoot very very well. Put a ic 555 in a 20 and shoot at a bird at 20 and see how well you shoot. For you to make a blanketed statement like that is pure ignorant. I cannot believe you did that. As far as calling one close , you have no idea how other people call. Im not trying to come off as a you know , but that statement did kind of hit me wrong.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:21:28 AMQuote from: Happy on March 08, 2018, 09:08:32 AMSomething to consider is that federal probably did not anticipate this shell taking off like it has. I didn't think it would. Especially in the 12 guage offerings. The price point doesn't justify the end in my opinion. I can see it in the 20 guage and smaller loads but it seems extreme to me in a 12 guage unless I was trying to snipe one. In wv a rifle is legal so I would just go that route. It's cheaper.Happy i agree with you, after trying some of this Tss shot last week, i decided it's a fine shell for people with really bad eye sight or people who can't shoot very well and have very little calling ability. It's a high dollar shell pack with a huge amount of shot and at 20 yards will blow a hole like a rifle, i just decided after messing with it last week, i will work more on calling the turkeys as i have done in the pass years and just be patient and kill my with cheaper shells ....
Quote from: Happy on March 08, 2018, 09:08:32 AMSomething to consider is that federal probably did not anticipate this shell taking off like it has. I didn't think it would. Especially in the 12 guage offerings. The price point doesn't justify the end in my opinion. I can see it in the 20 guage and smaller loads but it seems extreme to me in a 12 guage unless I was trying to snipe one. In wv a rifle is legal so I would just go that route. It's cheaper.
Quote from: Happy on March 08, 2018, 09:40:29 AMWho are you upset with here? You quoted two different people. If it's me and you consider me ignorant then that's fine. I am ok with it. I stand by my opinion and don't care what anyone else does. I stated my perspective and no one elses.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:06:17 AMGuy's who have been reloading Tss for the last couple of years have been telling us how great this shot is , but after patterning this stuff last week, it's really no better than the Federal HW 7 , those shells would put all the pellets in a turkey head that you needed to kill a turkey. I'm not really that excited about Tss and the 6 - 8 dollar shell anymore, i just want a good average shell to place a good pattern with consistent pattern...I'm so glad i bought a big supply of Federal Hw 7 and very few Tss shells...
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:32:25 AMQuote from: Spitten and drummen on March 08, 2018, 09:19:08 AMQuote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:06:17 AMGuy's who have been reloading Tss for the last couple of years have been telling us how great this shot is , but after patterning this stuff last week, it's really no better than the Federal HW 7 , those shells would put all the pellets in a turkey head that you needed to kill a turkey. I'm not really that excited about Tss and the 6 - 8 dollar shell anymore, i just want a good average shell to place a good pattern with consistent pattern...I'm so glad i bought a big supply of Federal Hw 7 and very few Tss shells...ok. Good for you. More tss for us. As far as patterns are concerned , more shot = denser patterns. Also the retained energy compared to 7 heavy blows them out of the water. I have a stash of heavyweight 7s and they pattern and shoot great. Plenty enough to kill a bird. Copper plated 6's are plenty enough to kill a bird. People saying oh my gosh , 8 dollars a shell?? We are turkey hunting not dove hunting. I have the tags to kill 6 birds a year from 2 states and I dont target practice with tss. In the end if you dont like tss thats fine , you or I dont have to justify what we shoot. Turkey hunting is my passion . I do not mind spending money on my hobby and equipment to pursue these birds. I pay a big chunk for 1300 acre turkey lease so a 10 dollar shell is not going to kill me. If I sold all the calls and turkey hunting related things I have then I could probably retire lol. Good luck this spring.I could care less what you shoot and you can preach all day about how good Tss is and i will agree with you it's a good shell , but with little more calling ability and patients you can kill a turkey with just as good of a shell and gun patterning with copper coated lead or cheaper shells if you pattern you gun with a good average load and choke. I don't think i ever said i don't like Tss , i just said i don't think you have to have this so called greatest shell to kill turkeys ...good luck also this spring ...
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 08, 2018, 09:19:08 AMQuote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:06:17 AMGuy's who have been reloading Tss for the last couple of years have been telling us how great this shot is , but after patterning this stuff last week, it's really no better than the Federal HW 7 , those shells would put all the pellets in a turkey head that you needed to kill a turkey. I'm not really that excited about Tss and the 6 - 8 dollar shell anymore, i just want a good average shell to place a good pattern with consistent pattern...I'm so glad i bought a big supply of Federal Hw 7 and very few Tss shells...ok. Good for you. More tss for us. As far as patterns are concerned , more shot = denser patterns. Also the retained energy compared to 7 heavy blows them out of the water. I have a stash of heavyweight 7s and they pattern and shoot great. Plenty enough to kill a bird. Copper plated 6's are plenty enough to kill a bird. People saying oh my gosh , 8 dollars a shell?? We are turkey hunting not dove hunting. I have the tags to kill 6 birds a year from 2 states and I dont target practice with tss. In the end if you dont like tss thats fine , you or I dont have to justify what we shoot. Turkey hunting is my passion . I do not mind spending money on my hobby and equipment to pursue these birds. I pay a big chunk for 1300 acre turkey lease so a 10 dollar shell is not going to kill me. If I sold all the calls and turkey hunting related things I have then I could probably retire lol. Good luck this spring.
Quote from: Gobble! on March 08, 2018, 09:55:50 AMQuote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:32:25 AMQuote from: Spitten and drummen on March 08, 2018, 09:19:08 AMQuote from: Greg Massey on March 08, 2018, 09:06:17 AMGuy's who have been reloading Tss for the last couple of years have been telling us how great this shot is , but after patterning this stuff last week, it's really no better than the Federal HW 7 , those shells would put all the pellets in a turkey head that you needed to kill a turkey. I'm not really that excited about Tss and the 6 - 8 dollar shell anymore, i just want a good average shell to place a good pattern with consistent pattern...I'm so glad i bought a big supply of Federal Hw 7 and very few Tss shells...ok. Good for you. More tss for us. As far as patterns are concerned , more shot = denser patterns. Also the retained energy compared to 7 heavy blows them out of the water. I have a stash of heavyweight 7s and they pattern and shoot great. Plenty enough to kill a bird. Copper plated 6's are plenty enough to kill a bird. People saying oh my gosh , 8 dollars a shell?? We are turkey hunting not dove hunting. I have the tags to kill 6 birds a year from 2 states and I dont target practice with tss. In the end if you dont like tss thats fine , you or I dont have to justify what we shoot. Turkey hunting is my passion . I do not mind spending money on my hobby and equipment to pursue these birds. I pay a big chunk for 1300 acre turkey lease so a 10 dollar shell is not going to kill me. If I sold all the calls and turkey hunting related things I have then I could probably retire lol. Good luck this spring.I could care less what you shoot and you can preach all day about how good Tss is and i will agree with you it's a good shell , but with little more calling ability and patients you can kill a turkey with just as good of a shell and gun patterning with copper coated lead or cheaper shells if you pattern you gun with a good average load and choke. I don't think i ever said i don't like Tss , i just said i don't think you have to have this so called greatest shell to kill turkeys ...good luck also this spring ...No kidding. Did anyone say birds can't be killed without TSS? You dont need 15g/cc Federal shells either but you said that's what you use. Maybe if you were a better caller you wouldn't need 15g/cc shot to kill a bird.
Quote from: Happy on March 08, 2018, 10:06:26 AMMy bad. You referenced sniping which I also did. That's what confused me. And again, if someone wants to throw $10.00 down the barrel that's their bussiness. I just couldn't justify it myself with a 12 guage unless I was trying to reach out there.
Quote from: BottomLand54 on March 08, 2018, 10:10:45 AMI'm blessed to have everything I have! Without God and His Grace and the Lord Jesus Christ paying for my Sins I could be on my way to hell. I am blessed to have a box of Winchester super X 5 shot lead.AMENSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 08, 2018, 10:16:06 AMSometimes things can get a little heated on here and I need to step back and take a breath before I post. I apologize for getting worked up at Greg and Lumping Happy in. We can all agree to disagree and thats the beauty of living in this great country. I really love this site and it has a wealth of knowledge here. Everyone shoot what you like and may the turkey gods bless you this spring.
