my gun is sighted in.. so i put dot an circle on target before i shoot.. i didnt just draw a circle after i shot.. these were great patterns.. i have shot 3 different choke tubes and the sumtoy choke threw the best patterns i got so far . i am not going to mention names of other chokes cause each gun will shoot different. now did run a bore snake through 2 times after each shot. . i dont have any 3.5" shells as of now. i only see 3.5" shot patterns posted so i thought i would shoot 3" shells and post all the patterns i got from 25 yards and 40 yards for the people who shoot 3" shells. like i said before the winchester supreme , double x, federal flight control mag shok did pretty good at 25 yards but 40 yards was a different story. the hevi shot was deadly at 40 yards and i think will kill past that with the 3" shell. hope these patterns help those that shoot the 3" shells.