My son and I killed quite a few with the 4x5x7 Nitros, the Mega-weight version of that load (believe it was 4x5x6MWx 7-HS and then 5x6MWx7-HS) and the straight 7-HS in 20 ga Compact 1187s using a Hastings .562 and a Hastings .566. I still have some that we hunt with and if I could get them cheap I would not have any issues hunting with them - if I can find some of the pattern pictures I will post them.