Maximum lethal range of LBXR 20 gauge

[tman91]

Ballistically speaking, what's the maximum effective range of Winchester longbeard xr's out of the 20 gauge?  5's vs. 6's?  Im concerned about lead shot and a muzzle velocity of 1000 fps, regardless of # of pellet strikes.  Anybody else share my concern?  Anybody with kpy ballistic software got any numbers for me? TIA.

[donjuan]

I posted the same concern. According to Clark at allaboutshooting, the 6s carry energy to kill to 40 yards. I would message him for further info.  I kind of doubt the 5s can pattern at 40, but I'm going to find out later when I get time

[tman91]

I posted the same concern. According to Clark at allaboutshooting, the 6s carry energy to kill to 40 yards. I would message him for further info.  I kind of doubt the 5s can pattern at 40, but I'm going to find out later when I get time

Patterned the 5's out of my Remington 870 youth with a crappy undertaker choke.   Got 107 hits in a 10" at a measured 40 yards.  Just wondering about the lethality at that distance

[BandedSpur]

Both 5s and 6s would penetrate adequately (1.25") to 40 yds. Not allowed to discuss beyond that distance.

[tman91]

Both 5s and 6s would penetrate adequately (1.25") to 40 yds. Not allowed to discuss beyond that distance.

Velocity of 5's and 6's at 40?

[tman91]

Both 5s and 6s would penetrate adequately (1.25") to 40 yds. Not allowed to discuss beyond that distance.

I was concerned it wasn't even going to make 40, to be honest

[donjuan]

I posted the same concern. According to Clark at allaboutshooting, the 6s carry energy to kill to 40 yards. I would message him for further info.  I kind of doubt the 5s can pattern at 40, but I'm going to find out later when I get time

Patterned the 5's out of my Remington 870 youth with a crappy undertaker choke.   Got 107 hits in a 10" at a measured 40 yards.  Just wondering about the lethality at that distance

Quite impressive! A 1 1/4 oz load of 5s only starts with 212 pellet s!

[tman91]

I posted the same concern. According to Clark at allaboutshooting, the 6s carry energy to kill to 40 yards. I would message him for further info.  I kind of doubt the 5s can pattern at 40, but I'm going to find out later when I get time

Patterned the 5's out of my Remington 870 youth with a crappy undertaker choke.   Got 107 hits in a 10" at a measured 40 yards.  Just wondering about the lethality at that distance

Quite impressive! A 1 1/4 oz load of 5s only starts with 212 pellet s!

[Buford]

I would hunt any day with a 20 gauge that put 107 number five shot in a ten inch circle at 40 yards!!!!   Buford

[Buford]

Just one more thing. I shoot a 11-87 20 gauge, 21 inch barrel with a .575 undertaker choke and longbeard number five shot and only put 89 in a ten inch circle at forty yards. Anything over 100 and it goes to the woods with me!!!    Buford

[Ihuntoldschool]

Well pattern density is what determines shotgun range so if you strike the brain or neck vertebrae it will most definitely be lethal.   You don't have to concern yourself with ballistic gel penetration, foot pounds, velocity etc.   You don't have to shoot plywood, soup cans, or loblolly pine trees to test penetration either. Pattern fails before penetration.

[BandedSpur]

Well pattern density is what determines shotgun range so if you strike the brain or neck vertebrae it will most definitely be lethal.   You don't have to concern yourself with ballistic gel penetration, foot pounds, velocity etc.   You don't have to shoot plywood, soup cans, or loblolly pine trees to test penetration either. Pattern fails before penetration.

That used to always be true before LBs, but I suspect the LB 6s in 20 ga (at only 1000 fps) may run out of gas before the pattern does. Wouldn't trust them past 40.

[BandedSpur]

Both 5s and 6s would penetrate adequately (1.25") to 40 yds. Not allowed to discuss beyond that distance.

Velocity of 5's and 6's at 40?

5s=625 fps; 6s=598 fps @ 40 yds when started @ 1000 fps.

[coonhunter]

Well pattern density is what determines shotgun range so if you strike the brain or neck vertebrae it will most definitely be lethal.   You don't have to concern yourself with ballistic gel penetration, foot pounds, velocity etc.   You don't have to shoot plywood, soup cans, or loblolly pine trees to test penetration either. Pattern fails before penetration.

That used to always be true before LBs, but I suspect the LB 6s in 20 ga (at only 1000 fps) may run out of gas before the pattern does. Wouldn't trust them past 40.

So some hevi shot loads are only 1100 FPS out of a 12Ga and kill turkeys at 40 with out concern!  You really think 100 fps is going to make that much difference??   

[tman91]

Well pattern density is what determines shotgun range so if you strike the brain or neck vertebrae it will most definitely be lethal.   You don't have to concern yourself with ballistic gel penetration, foot pounds, velocity etc.   You don't have to shoot plywood, soup cans, or loblolly pine trees to test penetration either. Pattern fails before penetration.

That used to always be true before LBs, but I suspect the LB 6s in 20 ga (at only 1000 fps) may run out of gas before the pattern does. Wouldn't trust them past 40.

So some hevi shot loads are only 1100 FPS out of a 12Ga and kill turkeys at 40 with out concern!  You really think 100 fps is going to make that much difference??

Hevi-shot is denser than lead, so it carries more momentum, and doesn't lose velocity as quickly as lead. Also, since it's a tungsten based material, it is harder than lead, therefore it penetrates better.