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Need some opinions please on 20 ga 18.5" barrel versus 22" barrel

Started by outdoorsurveys, January 18, 2017, 07:47:12 PM

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outdoorsurveys

Well, I'm now in my 60's and in early Spring season when foliage has not sprouted in the VA mountains, I tend to hunt a blind. And I like to move from time to time.  Years ago, could carry my shotgun, blind, stool, decoys and misc stuff in a pack with no big issues across the mountain ridges.  Well that has changed.  I have decided to lighten up on these early spring days.  Found a smaller blind, lighter stool, using fewer decoys and streamlined my misc. items.   Want to now make the move from my 12 ga Super Nova which has been a fantastic turkey gun, to an ultra lightweight 20 ga.  I've read enough about the successes of 20 ga hunting that the gauge is not an issue.   I started my "everything and anything" hunting back in the 1960's with a 20 ga single shot Harrington Richardson, so I see this as also going to my past as well.  With a smaller blind,  maneuverability has become more important.  Did a lot of comparing between the Rem 870 youth models and the 500 and 510 Mossberg Youth Batam Turkey.  The 500 is 22" and the 510 is an `8 1/2" barrel.   Wt is lighter for the 18 1/2" by a quarter pound.  Also, goes unsaid, while maneuverability would be good for both, it would be best for the 18 1/2" gun.  Both have adjustable stocks, but even at the utmost adjustment they both would be considered "short" for me.  That's not important to me.  I usually pull the trigger one time on a hunt, its not skeet shooting or upland bird hunting where a comfortable swing is critical.  Understand the muzzle blast may be a bit louder on the short barrel, but not an issue with hearing protection I wear (Walker's game ear muffs).  Velocity will likely be a little slower on the shorter barrel, but again don't see that as an issue.   My main question is this...do most feel the patterning with today's aftermarket chokes would be about the same?  Has anybody shot and compared
both barrel lengths in a 20 ga...and better yet hunted with an 18 1/2" barrel and a 21" or 22" barrel.  Would love to know direct comparisons.  Also thoughts on the best performing aftermarket choke.  By the way, both I understand are drilled and tapped for scopes which is a plus for me.  Remington still has work to do in this area on its youth models, plus while i have Remington firearms, the guns they have put out in the past decade while good, don't stand up to the ones the put out years ago.  That's just my opinion and I know others may disagree.   Thanks for any insight.

Greg Massey

Last year before turkey season i put together a Rem, 870 youth with a 21 inch barrel with a Trulock 565 choke tube and i change out the stock with a Rem Shur Shot stock and forearm, mounted it with a Saddle mount and a Simmons turkey scope...I shot the Federal HW 7 ....Nothing wrong with Rem 870 ....i would get the 21 inch barrel because you will have less recoil with the 21 in barrel...I just turned 60 and i wanted a gun with less weight also...The 565 choke is a good all around choke that you can shoot 5.6 shot or the H W 7 with a great pattern... I would pick the Rem over any of the other guns you were talking about...

Fieldturkey

I traded out my 21" barrel for an 18.5 on my 870 and patterns were nearly identical. I like the short barrel. Sumtoy 562

outdoorsurveys

Greg and FieldTurkey,

Thanks for the tips.  With the aging of America and the popularity of 20's growing seems to me these manufacturers should be targeting a new gun maybe called  the "Seasoned Senior Turkey".  I hunt with a scope.  Have missed with open sights and have yet to miss with a scope (not that it can't or won't happen I'm sure my time will come).  I prefer guns that are pre-drilled and tapped by the mfg.  I  don't care for the inconvenience and extra cost to take it to a gun smith to have that done.  Though many people do, its just not my cup of tea.  I could be wrong but I don't think the Rem 870 youth is drilled and tapped.  Not even sure it comes in Camo.  You're right in general Rem's are still considered by most a notch above Mossberg.  I'm not after the "top quality" but looking for a qood value that delivers more on my preferences...weight, camo, tapped and drilled, same gun being designed for left and right handers since I'm right and my wife who may borrow it is left.  Little things but they add up.  In my opinion , my Benelli trumps both Remington and Mossberg in quality and I love that gun but time for a change to lighter and smaller.  Good luck in the upcoming season.

wvnut3

This is my 20 ga and it has a 22 inch barrel and weighs only 6 lbs. Lee

dirtnap

I personally like the 21 inch barrel.  I have an 1100, 870, and 1187 with the 21 inch barrel.  I have the Mossberg bantam in .410 and 20 as well.  If I were going to choose one and only one to hunt with, it would be the youth model 870.  And recoil is not an issue to me, I hunted with an 835 and 3 and 1/2 inch shells for 20 years. 

The mossberg bantam in 20 gauge kicks more than the 870 with 3 inch shells.  The trigger is better on the 870 as well.